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Hey guys, a couple people on another thread asked about inexpensive but effective LSAT study methods. Since the three of us have followed BK's self-study plan I thought I would start a thread devoted to the topic. If you have any advice or information then please chime in. I have never taken a test prep course so I cannot speak on them with authority; however I know course instructors and students, and they claim without exception that there is nothing in a course that you cannot learn on your own, especially with the aid of published preparation guides (e.g., Kaplan, PR, LGB). In addition, they all claim that even WITH a course there is a direct relationship between the amount of time one studies and the resulting score. This implies that a course does not short-circuit that natural learning process, but rather supplements it with helpful strategies. Several posters on this board have used an alternative, much less formal method. Since it is less formal there are many adaptations of it, but most variations involve taking one or two released LSAT exams every week for several months. I will tell you exactly what I have done and what my results have been thus far, and I hope that others will jump in and share their experiences as well. I started studying with a Kaplan preparation book. The book described the sections of the test in general terms and provided strategies for each section. It also included artificial full-length exams that helped me get used to the length of the exam. While I was studying that book I ordered about twenty exams from LSAC, the Logic Games Bible from PowerScore, and a speed reading book. I spent the next month and a half focusing on the LGB and the speed reading book. When I finished both of those books I started taking one real exam each Saturday morning. During the week I would work on the sections that gave me trouble on the previous Saturday. I would typically retake the difficult sections until I got a perfect score on them. This is difficult at first. You do not have much material with which to work, so there is not a LOT you can do during the week. But after the first month or two you have a backlog of old tests which you can erase and retake for additional practice. You forget the specifics of each question over time, so putting a test down for a month and then retaking it helps you recognize correct answers due to the principles you have studied rather than the specific content of the question. If you choose to use this method then I have a few suggestions. First, begin with a general prep book like the one I used. I did not want to use real test questions to learn the mechanics of the test. Second, save the most recent exams until the end (but make sure that you have AMPLE time to go over them). The test has changed somewhat in recent years so you do not want to finish with tests from the early 1990's. At the same time you do not want to leave three weeks for the last eight tests, because you will likely want to devote much more time to the more recent questions. Third, be aware that you will likely encounter diminishing returns. My improvement over the last four months has been negligible (though I took a break for two of those four months). Finally ask questions on the PR board. Most of the people here are helpful. The price of this method depends on the materials you purchase. I suggest a generic prep book, LGB, both "Books of Ten," and all of the single exams from LSAC. Those publications will cost you $194 plus tax, shipping and handling. I took the test in June and cancelled (a long story for another thread). I do not have an official score but my first prep score was 159 and my highest prep score was 177. My average score (mean and median), over 35 exams, was in the lower to mid 170's (172 - 174). **EDIT** I created this thread in mid September. It is now late November and I realized that I never updated this with my October score. I do not want to reveal my score until I am through the application process but I will say that I hit my target - the method I described in this post produced the intended results. Good luck!
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Date: September 14, 2002 09:35 PM
To John and everyone else, thanks for all the advice. I'll print this out and see what I have, and what more I need to get.
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Date: September 14, 2002 11:26 PM
Thanks for sharing your tips.
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Date: November 28, 2002 02:08 AM
“BK's self-study plan…” Who , or what is BK?
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Date: November 28, 2002 02:14 AM
BK was a poster around here last year who did all of his LSAT studying on his own, no prep class or what have, and ended up getting a 180. Think he's at Yale now if I am recalling correctly.
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Date: September 14, 2002 04:28 PM
Great advice John :) To any self-studiers, I've done methods similar to John. I ordered the "10 More LSAT", a handful of recent tests from LSAC.org, and the Powerscore book. Instead of the Kaplan book which I found to be crap (sorry John lol) I used "Master the LSAT" written by Jeff Kolby. I got it on buy.com for $18 including shipping. It was a good foundation but I was still missing some blanks in concepts and I was freaking out, so last week I signed up for the PR Online "Express" thing for $99 (instead of spending $250 on a TM weekend course) and it has helped me a lot. I've gone up 15 points from my diagnostic when I first started studying in early July until now and if I can go up another 5 points by 10/5 I will hit my target. All of this has cost me about $230 total. A damned sight cheaper than $1000-$1250 for a full prep course if you ask me. Needless to say, this is the most I"ve ever studied for a standardized test LOL! Best of luck to everyone in the applications process. :)
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Date: September 14, 2002 04:58 PM
I also studied for the LSAT on my own. I took my first diagnostic test about 6 months before the real thing and I scored a 158. First I read through and worked out the problems in the Kaplan book, but I also found it to be somewhat lacking. I then ordered the Princeton Review book which I thought was somewhat more helpful. I purchased the two books of 10 preptests and most of the newer preptests that are sold seperately and I went to town using the strategies I learned in the Princeton Review Book. In the beginning I started with one preptest a week (for the first two months), during the second two months I moved to two preptests a week, and during the final two months i took three preptests a week. (although every now and then i would take a week off) My average score during the latter part of prepping was 167 - 169, with my highest prep score being a 171. I scored a 168 on the real test.
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Date: September 14, 2002 05:04 PM
Are you Indian? Where are you applying?
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Date: September 14, 2002 05:16 PM
yeah, my bad, I was wondering because I couldn't place the screen name, but now...of course.
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Date: September 14, 2002 05:24 PM
"vujnati" in macedonian is translated as "your aunt" it's a common insult in macedonian similar to saying "your mother" in English, only not as bad because your "vujna" isn't a blood relative (she's your mother's brother's wife). for example: Q: kaj beshe snoshti (where were you last night?) A: kaj vujnati (by your aunt)
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Date: September 14, 2002 05:34 PM
Oh, lol! That was *not* what I was thinking...interesting tidbit though in case I'm ever looking for a barfight with some Macedonians. ;-)
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Date: September 14, 2002 05:28 PM
I studied on my own as well. I got a PR book and the Master the LSAT book. PR book was worthless, Master the LSAT was much better. I scored a 154 on the PR diagnostic test in the book. I took about 10 of the real LSAT tests and ranged from 163-171. I scored a 165 on the real thing. I honestly don't think I could have done better with a class. It's a waste of money in my opinion.
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Date: September 14, 2002 09:29 PM
As always, yours is very good advice, John. I have no regrets about eschewing an expensive prep course in favor of self-study, although that is probably easy to say when I haven't taken the real thing yet. The LSAT is remarkably consistent from year to year. Some people will tell you that recent tests are really hard, but I don't really think that is true. I think that post-1998 exams are noticeably DIFFERENT from earlier exams, meaning that they emphasize certain concepts more heavily than before and others less heavily. It is important to see all of the new exams for this reason. Basically, the bottom line is that learning the LSAT is like learning to drive: there are only so many themes, situations, and relationships to go around, and the test repeats them over and over and over again - the only difference is subject matter. The goal in LSAT prep is to learn to look through the subject matter to determine what type of logical relationship is being presented and tested. There are few "tricks" to the test, but I do have some suggestions: 1) Remember the 2/5 rule. On any question, there will be 3 answer choices that are easily recognizable as wrong. You need to learn to spot these, slash a line through their letter, and focus on the remaining two. 2) Always time your preptests strictly and work without a rest period! 3) Experiment with answer gridding strategies. My favorite one is to write the letter of the answer choice I want next to the question in the test book. I then wait until I'm at the end of a section -- one reading comprehension passage, two pages of arguments, or one logic game -- and then transfer the answers at one time. Be careful to indicate any questions you have skipped by putting a question mark next to those, and you might consider writing the question number next to the letter for the first question in each of these mini-sections. This will help you avoid blocking in 7 answers in the wrong space, a truly horrific scenario! 4) Learn to move on. If you've spent too long on a particular question, circle it and move on to the next one. The notion that your fate hinges on whatever question you're looking at is very seductive, but is detrimental to your performance. The LSAT is not arranged in order of difficulty, so move on. When you return, you will most likely find that the break allows you to look at the question in a different way, and you will see something you had previously missed. 5) Buy the Powerscore Logic Games Bible. I've seen several texts that give strategies for diagramming the logic games, but none of them is so comprehensive or effective as the Bible. I am no wizard on the games, and in one recent score, I barely did better than my first diagnostic. Nevertheless, I am much more proficient at them generally than before, and you can be, too. 6) Circle any questions you find difficult, even if you found the answer. If you complete the section early, you can then hone in on those quickly and check for obvious mistakes. However, don't change an answer unless you have a good reason to! 7) Carefully review every question you missed on each practice exam, along with those you circled for difficulty but got correct anyway. Try to do this without looking at the correct answer choice, and see if you can find the correct one the second time around. Knowing that the correct answer is in the back of the book becomes a crutch that will inhibit the learning process. Oh yeah, for those who want numbers: I started out with a 161 and my highest score (and second most recent) was a 177. My median, mean, and mode, I think, is 170, but the significance of those averages is altered by an obvious upward time-trend. Best of luck!
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Date: September 14, 2002 11:26 PM
Wow! Thanks for sharing your tips.
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Date: September 15, 2002 12:21 AM
Your tips are all outstanding, but I particularly like #4. Tough questions can be such a gamble--at times it seems like all I need is another :15--but alas, learning when to give up can really pay off at the end of the section.
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Date: September 15, 2002 12:29 AM
I would agree with the above posters -- class is unnecessary, and taking the actual prep tests is by far the best way to study. As far as books go I would recommend Kloby's Master the LSAT and Kaplan 180, both quite useful and I have been seeing improvements in my scoring after going through them thoroughly. I never got the LGBible, never had much trouble with games. One unconventional tip I would use is to buy one of those Logic Problems publications at a newsstand. The games are different than you'd encounter on a real LSAT, but the thinking is essentially the same and I've found them to be good training, as well as a good way to fill 15-20 minutes without going to a real prep test. I'd say I work at least an hour a day on this stuff. I'm taking the Oct. 5 exam. My scoring's improved steadily over the last month and a half of this regimen, and I've begun taking timed tests this last week. Results: 172, 174, 177, 180, 175. My first diagnostic prep test was 164, so not a huge improvement, but at this point I'm shooting for over 175. Getting perfect scores on the games helps a LOT, esp. because on every exam at least a few LR questions are total tossups with, I think, questionable answers. I find myself doing better on the timed tests than I did just filling out the tests for some reason, possibly because I'm eliminating possible answers very quickly. Sitting down and doing four sections in a row helps my concentration. As a poster above alluded to, the key to the LSAT is to ELIMINATE THREE ANSWERS QUICKLY. Elimination works especially in the games section, where based on the rules alone you can toss away two or three right off. Point is, I never studied for the SATs because I didn't think you could study for standardized tests, but ask anybody who's taken the LSATs, you can study and it will make a difference.
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Date: September 15, 2002 08:36 PM
IIRC, you said that you've been studying for about a year. Haven't you seen a mean case of diminishing returns? My experience and most people I've talked to indicate that progress substantially slows after 2 or 3 months of studying.
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Date: September 15, 2002 09:05 PM
I wouldn't say that I've seen this, at least not in the way you might think. I have been preparing for about one year also, and this is my experience: I started at the 84th percentile, a 160 or 161. I looked over that first exam quite thoroughly, read through some strategy books, and proceeded to take more exams. I hovered around 165-166 for a while, then one day, I jumped up to a 168. I was thrilled. Over the next several exams, I kept scoring a 168-169, and was beginning to think that was all I could do. Then, one day, my score hit a 172. I kept hitting the lower 170's range (170-174) for a long time after that, and my performance seemed resistant to increases in study. So, I'm thinking: I've increased the score from a 161 to the lower 170s, which was my original dream target. Maybe I should just be satisfied. But I'm not easily (or ever) satisfied, so I pressed on. I went through 20 LSATs, erased every logic game, photocopied them (to eliminate traces), put them in stacks according to their type, and worked through them, untimed. No difference. At this point, my graph of LSAT scores was looking pretty asymptotic to 171. Then, just a couple of weeks ago, I hit an astounding 177, which I thought was a fluke. Was it? Well, I took another very recent exam today and hit a 178, even though the logic games barely resembled anything I had previously studied. In short, my growth has not been as steady or predictable as other posters report. It has occurred in short bursts with long resting periods in between. I'm thrilled to be scoring so high now, but there is a downside: I have raised my expectations so high now that I will be disappointed with anything less than a 175 on exam day, and that's a pretty harsh standard to hold myself to.
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Date: September 15, 2002 09:25 PM
on the 178!!! You will nail this thing next month my friend. :) BTW, on what tests did you score the 177 and 178? I know we compared scores several months ago and I was just curious to see how I did on those exams.
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Date: September 15, 2002 09:39 PM
The 177 was on the June 1999 exam, and the 178 was on the June 2000 exam. I have to say, the games were very weird for 6/00, even in the context of other recent exams I've taken. I freaked out at first, but then I just thought about them calmly and proceeded as usual. (I also chuckled when I encountered the rap CD/classical CD game featured in Legally Blonde.)
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Date: September 15, 2002 09:45 PM
what is this game of which you speak?
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Date: September 15, 2002 09:49 PM
An oddball undefined grouping game concerning which genres of used and new CDs are on sale at some record store. It's in Legally Blonde, and I didn't know it was a real LSAT.
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Date: September 15, 2002 09:52 PM
ah. ok. I didn't remember that from Legally Blonde, I guess it just blended into the overall verisimilitude of the movie.
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Date: September 15, 2002 09:50 PM
For some reason I don't have my score on the June 1999 exam. I have three copies of the exam from three different books, and I can only find two of the books...my first raw score must be in the other book. I scored 174 in June 2000 though...I missed five RC, four AR (THREE on that damn CD game) and zero LR. Have you taken October 2001 and December 2001 yet?
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Date: September 15, 2002 10:02 PM
Heh, heh. I have the most embarassingly thorough excel spreadsheet you could imagine. It has every test date, date taken, scaled score, raw score, difficulty benchmark (the raw score required to get a 170), percentage correct on each section type, the difference in performance between LR sections, and dummy variables to represent the test administration (June-ish, Oct-ish, Dec). I also have all of your scores and those of BK. I put all of this crap into SPSS in a futile data-mining attempt. I did see that there is absolutely no significance of the monthly dummies, so the notions that June is harder, etc., may be unwarranted or at least not applicable to me. Oh yeah, you didn't ask about any of this. To answer your questions, I haven't taken those two exams yet, but probably will this week. On the June 2000 exam, I missed 4 AR, 1 RC, and 0 LR. The reading comprehension was a nightmare, truly one of the worst I had seen, and I have no idea how I waltzed away with only one incorrect answer.
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Date: September 15, 2002 10:49 PM
about spreadsheets. I have copies of mine on two home PCs, my work PC, and my PDA! I never leave home without it. :) If you don't mind me asking, (assuming you score in the mid to upper 170's in October) when and to what schools are you applying?
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Date: September 15, 2002 11:26 PM
Oh, you'll never guess: Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, Chicago, NYU, Michigan, Virginia, Berkeley, Penn, Cornell, Duke, Georgetown, Vanderbilt, UCLA, and Texas. If I get into any of those schools I will be very pleased and will forget this whole admissions thing forever. If I don't, then I will need to re-examine my career goals and then ultimately develop a substance abuse problem. You might find me living under a bridge somewhere. :) I plan to FedEx my applications Oct. 27 and to have letters on file with LSDAS by Oct. 15, provided that the score isn't below my squeal point. If it is, I'll probably just dispense with the formalities and begin my career as a junkie/bum...
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Date: November 30, 2002 10:23 PM
Would you mind posting BK's progression of scores or providing a link to them? Propeller Head, would you mind providing a blank copy of your excel spreadsheet? I was thinking of trying to create one, but there is no sense in re-creating the wheel, especially when it's not my strong suit to begin with. Any help would be appreciated.
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Date: November 30, 2002 10:39 PM
though PH's was more detailed. I plotted test date (the date on which I took the test), test #, and score. I have a copy of BK's scores and my scores at home, so I'll post them next week if PH hasn't posted them by then (I'm away for Thanksgiving right now).
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Date: September 28, 2002 04:53 PM
This is a great thread, and I am hoping you guys can help me out. One the tests, I have been scoring in the low 160s. My problem is the logic games. I miss about half the questions. What advice is out there for conquering these games? I am taking the Oct. 5 LSAT, and considering my 3.32 GPA, I need to do really well (i.e., in the top 5%) on this test...
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Date: September 15, 2002 09:03 AM
Thanks, these are all excellent tips. Here is a question for you experts: Did anyone practice with 5 sections of the LSAT in order to simulate the real test? I know that the published PrepTests don't include the experimental section, but I wonder whether it would be useful to add another section when practicing. Any thoughts?
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Date: September 15, 2002 09:21 AM
I use five or six sections per test. I use sections from tests that I have already taken as the experimental sections.
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Date: September 15, 2002 09:42 AM
When practicing, do you remember which section(s) is the experimental? Or do you remember which sections you added? And do you take your experimental sections in a specific sequence, say first or last?
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Date: September 15, 2002 03:44 PM
take one experimental section in the first three sections of the test. When I start an exam I get out the test I am taking that day, and the test that contains the experimental section. I bookmark the experimental section so that I can turn to it quickly. Then I write I, II, EX, III, IV below each section on the answer sheet to help me remember to take EX. I know which section it is when I am taking the test.
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Date: September 15, 2002 05:59 PM
Interesting approach. Just wondering: do you ever take a PrepTest twice? If so, how do you prevent the effect of memory recall? If you take a PrepTest twice, wouldn't you remember some information and answers, thus causing your score to serve as an inaccurate estimate of your abilities?
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Date: September 15, 2002 08:26 PM
I take them three or four times. :) The best way to prevent recall is to take a test once, really LEARN the intracies of the test, and then put it down for four to six weeks. When you retake it you will remember some of the content but I figure that it is better than nothing. For example (I think I mentioned this above), I scored in the low 170's on almost every PrepTest the first time through. When I take them now I always get 180s, but I don't think for a second that the 180 is an accurate measure of my performance on a fresh exam...however I hope that my performance would be somewhere between the initial score and the 180.
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Date: September 15, 2002 09:03 PM
You seem like the expert on LSAT prepping. How long have you been prepping? II imagine it would take several months to go through all the PrepTests four times. And, if you had an infinite amount of time, how long would you prep in order to achieve optimal results? Supposedly, Nancy Drew, another PR poster, has been prepping for two years. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this.
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Date: September 15, 2002 09:43 PM
I have been prepping for about a year. If I could go back I would prep for four or five months SOLID and stop. My results actually peaked in April and dipped in May (prior to the June exam). I have absolutely no idea where my skill level is right now, but I imagine it is somewhere in the lower 170's. And I have not really taken the tests straight through four times. I usually focus on one area for a couple of weeks. When I do this I retake all of the AR, LR or RC sections for a set of ten or fifteen exams. Doing that over and over again is the equivalent of taking each exam several times, but in actuality I have probably only taken each exam once or twice straight through.
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Date: September 15, 2002 09:16 PM
John, very impressive. May I ask, what are you doing now? Are you still in undergrad, or are you working? How many practice tests do you take each week, and when are you planning on taking the next one (I think you said that you had taken it once, but had it thrown out, or something). I ask only because, if you're working and/or still in UG, and taking several practice tests every week, you really must not be sleeping (I guess no one on PR does!)
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Date: September 15, 2002 09:36 PM
I graduated in 2000 and I have been working (consulting) since then. My original plan was to take all of the released exams between January 2002 and May 2002, and take the test in June. I did that, but then the June LSAT royally fucked up my plans and I have been improvising ever since. I was really worn down by June, so after I cancelled my score I took a couple of months off to relax, read, exercise, travel and basically forget about the LSAT. I started studying again in August, and I have been taking one exam each week since then. Right now I am working through Kaplan's LSAT 180 guide. A good friend of mine is a Kaplan instructor and she was kind enough to give me her course workbook, so I have been working some of the problems in there also (though if any of the released exams were "fresh" then I would work through those first). I am a big time management buff so I am usually able to pack a lot into one day. I try to sleep seven to eight hours each night but it doesn't always turn out that way. :)
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Date: September 15, 2002 09:50 PM
You are my hero. Your prepping is certainly impressive. One more question. When taking practice tests, several posters on this board allot only 30 minutes for each section. By doing so, they became accustomed to finishing each section with 5 minutes to spare, so that on the real test they have 'extra' time, should they need it. Did you use this strategy? What are your thoughts on it?
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Date: September 15, 2002 10:12 PM
I'm not John, but here's my opinion: I give myself the full 35 minutes, because I want to become as good as possible at maintaining an appropriate test-taking speed. Over time, I have reached a point at which I finish the reading and arguments no later than 28:00 and thus have 7 minutes to check everything anyway. I don't think I could ever solve the games accurately in 30 minutes, so I've never tried. I do avoid giving myself any kind of break, even that which you give yourself by finishing a section early. When I finish early and am confident in my selections, I stop the clock, reset and move on to the next section. I never take any breaks. I think this helps to build stamina.
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Date: September 15, 2002 10:45 PM
how do you finish RC in 28:00?!?!?!! :) RC keeps my busy right up to 35. Oh, and I have been paying more attention to your 2/5 rule the last couple of days. Man!! That is pretty powerful. I don't know how I missed it but formalizing it that way really helps.
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Date: September 15, 2002 11:32 PM
Well, I usually finish by 28:00, but some of the brutal ones - such as today's - do keep me right up to the limit. Basically, I read the passage carefully but quickly one time, occasionaly underlining a word here or there that seems like a question or inference might be drawn from the area. Then, I attack the questions. On a typical RC passage, only 3 of 7 questions will require me to refer back to the passage; the remaining 4 can be answered pretty easily from memory. The 2/5 rule is, I think, the most powerful on this section. I have yet to encounter a question that didn't offer 3 answer choices so ridiculously extreme, broad, or narrow that they could be eliminated immediately.
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Date: September 15, 2002 11:51 PM
huh. that's interesting. almost exactly the opposite of what I do. First couple of diagnostics I went right up to 35 on the reading comp, which made me uncomfortable so I started doing things differently. I don't read the passage carefully at all. I just read through it as quickly as I can and that is almost always enough to answer 4 out of 5 questions--some times I have to go back and look for something. I miss like one question max on reading comp and only then because I over-analyze the question. The thing that slowed me down at first with reading comp was trying to digest the passage. Last couple I've taken I finish right around that 29-30 minute mark.
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Date: September 16, 2002 12:09 AM
Yep - I used to do that, too. It actually worked pretty well, but I found it stressful to keep referring back to the passage for clarification or answering specific questions based on knowledge I gleaned from such a hasty reading. I was missing 3 questions using the previous method, and now I usually miss zero. However, reading is a very personal thing, so everyone has to develop his own perfect strategy.
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Date: September 21, 2002 05:59 PM
Propeller Head, since you always seem to finish RC sections with some time left, do you think you can try to remember a few RC answers on the October LSAT? I am generally not as strong on the RC section and would like to double-check some answers with someone who is really good on this section.
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Date: September 21, 2002 06:01 PM
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Date: September 15, 2002 11:31 PM
28 minutes for arguments and RC? That's just a little over one minute for each question. Quite impressive! To achieve this quick pace, are there any specific techniques you employ? I've heard someone suggest that you should read without moving your lips. This seems like a simple strategy but supposedly it saves significant amounts of time overall. Also, do you re-read the stimulus and stimilus? To finish in 28 minutes, you probably don't. When I take PrepTests, I sometimes reread the stimulus and/or questions, which is why I never finish all the questions in the 35 minutes. Any other tips?
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Date: September 15, 2002 11:42 PM
Practice, practice, practice. To be honest, 28 minutes is actually pretty long for arguments - I routinely finish those in 21-22 minutes, and on one occasion, I finished in 15! This used to be my most accurate section, but now reading comprehension is. I don't know why. (I did NOT start out anywhere near this fast, by the way. The arguments only deal with a few types of logical structures, and once you've seen them all, it becomes easy to anticipate the correct answer choice before you see it.) NEVER move your lips while you read, and NEVER pronounce the words in your head. I used to be the slowest reader on Earth until someone told me that -- instantly, my reading speed doubled! Once you sever the oral ties to written language, your eyes will fly across the page and you will still get the gist of what's written on it. On arguments, I like to glance at the stimulus to see which of the 8-9 question types I'm dealing with. For example, if I see that it's going to ask me about a flaw in the argument, then I'll instantly go into "flaw-finding mode." Same goes for suppressed premises. Also, on the "resolve this paradox" questions, don't be tempted to choose answer choices that strengthen the argument. Since everything in the passage is presumed to be true on those questions, you don't need to justify it - you need to clarify it. It's hard to remember or distill everything I've learned, but the most important thing I can tell you is this: the LSAT has a very small bag of tricks, and if you work through lots of tests (a minimum of 20) you will learn to spot them from a mile away.
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Date: September 15, 2002 11:49 PM
Propeller Head, these are all excellent tips. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. . Do you find that re-reading the short passage for each LR question to be detrimental to speed or accuracy? I often feel a need to re-read the passage in order to understand it. Doing so, however, costs me valuable time. Was this ever a problem for you? If so, how did you deal with it?
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Date: September 16, 2002 12:05 AM
Glad they're helpful to you. As to re-readinng LR passages, I still do this and will always do this, but only on some of the passages. Here's my standard procedure: 1) Glance at the stimulus to see what type of argument it is. 2) Read it carefully but not too leisurely, keeping in mind whatever element it is that I'm looking for (flaws, suppressed premises, weak spots, contradictions, whatever.) 3) Give the answer choices a quick once-over to see if my preformulated answer is on the list. If it is, I choose it, don't bother reading the other choices, trust my judgment, and move on. 4) If I don't find my preformulated answer, I go on a quick witch hunt for poorly written answer choices. Anything that is obviously irrelevant, appeals to emotion, violates the scope of the argument, etc., gets crossed out immediately. (Be suspicious when you see a choice that uses such absolute terms as "all" or "never" - they may be right, but they usually are not.) 5) Examine the remaining choices to see which of them has a problem or weakness - perhaps a subtle one - that renders the other a better choice. If I can't find one, I'll quickly glance at the passage again, and if I still haven't found what I'm lookin for, I circle that question number, write a question mark next to it, and move on to the next question. I will return to it before the end of that two-page section. (If it's the last argument in such a section, I may move on anyway.) 6) Return to any circled questions and try again. Usually, I have forgotten just enough of the passage that, when I reread it, I find something I overlooked. If all else fails, I will guess among the remaining two answers, and choose the one that sounds like a generic correct LSAT answer. (I can't explain what sound it has - it's one of those things you develop a sense of.) As always, read with precision: the words "many" and "some" mean "at least one, and perhaps all." Never is never and always is always. This is more than you asked for, but I hope it helps. Perhaps one day I should write an LSAT Self-Study Companion - of all of the techniques and insights that have helped me the most, very few are touched on in your ordinary Kaplan/PR strategy book.
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Date: September 16, 2002 09:07 AM
Thanks again for your advice, Propeller Head. Once again, your tips are quite useful. I'm always amazed at how much knowledge there is on this board. You should definitely write an LSAT Self-Study Companion. Not only would it be better than the books currently on the market, but you would also help all those tring to beat the LSAT!
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Date: September 16, 2002 10:06 AM
If you take this advice (write a study guide), will you be kind enough to wait until I have been accepted to LS? I couldn't compete with that stream of 180's. :)
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Date: September 16, 2002 01:21 PM
Actually, I did make the comment only half in jest. I will wait to see how October pans out, but if it's really good, then I might be interested in laying out what I did a little book. I think some people would be interested in buying an inexpensive booklet that lays out the preparation plan. I think it would be a nightmare to actually send it to a publisher, etc., but perhaps I could start this as an online project after things have calmed down for me... hmm.
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Date: September 17, 2002 02:42 PM
bump
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Date: September 17, 2002 04:42 PM
As if these tips need qualification, but I'll give my two cents, as illustration, anyways. I have been studying since May or so, and it's been a bit too long. I am currently at my peak, and expect to remain there until the October test, but my studying at this point is just maintanenece of my skill (which is really annoying cause I want to get this dang thing over with). 4 months is about perfect. Any longer than that and you start to lose motivation (and run outof current tests). I started out at a 163 and improved to a 172 or 173 (depends on the day). I also tutor for Kaplan, and I can attest to all that was said here. You can recieve the best tutoring in the world (by me, j/k), and see little improvement, unless you practice. The best advice I can give is: Don't over-study! I had a significant drop in score at one point due to too much studying and an immediate increase after pulling back. That's all I really have to add though. Great post guys!!! (sorry for any typing errors, no time for grammar)
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Date: September 17, 2002 10:15 PM
You raise an interesting issue: maintenance of skill. Once someone peaks, how do you recommend that they maintain their skill? Continuing to take PrepTests? If they don't maintain their skills, will their scores drop? Just curious.
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Date: September 18, 2002 04:30 PM
I believe it's extremely important to maintain your skill. I've studied plenty of college subjects over the years, but I couldn't ace a single test like I did when I was entrenched in the subjects (yes, I think your score would definitely drop). Here's my dilemma though. I am now taking practice LSAT's just to maintain skill, but I will have taken EVERY recent practice test by the time the October test comes around. Therefore, I would have nothing to study if I had to postpone or retake. By studyng for four months and using tests you can really increase your score, but the sacrifice becomes that there is alot more pressure on this one test. I would definitely keep taking tests if you are maintaining a score you want and have enough tests to last you till test day, but might save my remaining recent tests if I would want to increase by the time you take the real deal (study until a month before and then go back to taking tests). Don't run out two months before the test, cause then you are screwed.
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Date: September 19, 2002 01:17 PM
Thanks for the wonderful tips. I am having trouble with LR as well. I made some improvement, but still haven't got to the point of being confident. My question for the expert/guru is: In LR section, do you read the question first and then read the argument? This was promoted in PR/Kaplan book, but not recommended by Kolby in Master LSAT. thanks.
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Date: September 19, 2002 08:57 PM
I ALWAYS read the question stem before the argument. I have been consistently missing between 2-3 per LR section. Good luck.
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Date: September 19, 2002 09:01 PM
Hey MK, I don't know where your RC thread went but I read it and wanted to ask you whether you do the passages in the order given? Also, do you have trouble with certain passage types? Science passages, for example . . .
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Date: September 19, 2002 08:30 PM
I took my on a couple day layover in NY while working in Europe. The only practice exam I took was the one provided on the LSAC site the night before the test. No books, no study aids. Got a 176. It's all LOGIC, people. I suggest you follow a similar routine.
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Date: September 30, 2002 01:37 PM
....an arrogant little pr*ck such as yourself never gets hired on at my office....
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Date: September 19, 2002 09:23 PM
Hello, I haven't checked out PR in a while, apparently I've missed an upgrade somewhere. Nice change. Anyway, I forget what I was going to post now. I hadn't signed in, so I had to do that and then get back to here, so by then...well I can't remember what advice I had to give. I've done self study (I remember now) since March/April for the LSAT, and I did get PR's online course, but (see above) I don't use it much. I found it..not bad, but not suited to what I wanted. The pages took too long to load and I got impatient. The material was good, what I saw of it, and the fact that all the answers to most of the tests are available was really something I used. It was helpful to have an explanation to a quesion when I really didn't understand what the question was looking for. As for my test progress. I started with an old Kaplan prep book and also Kaplan 180 in March and April. I worked through these until about May, and in June, I started with questions from the "10 More Real LSAT's" book. I took my first timed prep test at around..Mid-june I think, and scored a 168. From there, I learned rather quickly that I am not the best at RC when I'm being timed, so from then on, I've worked on RC as well as certain logical reasoning questions that I have troubles with (parallel the reasoning and flaw questions mostly) I (tried) to do two tests a week during the summer, and am trying to do at least two timed tests as well as old questions that I had done before, every week. I agree that there is a very limited amount of real LSAT stuff out there, so its best to gauge for that and plan accordingly. As I stand now, going into the October test, I'm scoring around 174-176 consistently, and my old weaknesses still come back and haunt me on occasion. I have four tests left to go through, and two weeks to do them in, so I shouldn't run out of new stuff before the 5th. I'm incredibly glad that I took the self-study route. I have gotten much more out of it than I think I would with a class and all the restrictions that come with that. I think i would have benefited from the contact with other test takers, although I think I had enough of that on my own. But the real big drawback I can see with a class, is the constraints placed on what you study and when you study it. I understand that there are methods to that and that the timing of everything is well thought out and has been proven to work, but I feel a bit better going through everything at my own pace, at my own time. For example, I haven't worked any more on games, other than what is on the tests I take, since I did the two Kaplan books back in May. Most people have trouble with that section and so a lot of the test prep classes are based on that, I would benefit more from spending that time on RC or LR stuff. Anyway, that's me..Hope that helped a bit.
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Date: September 22, 2002 07:26 PM
bump
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Date: September 28, 2002 01:46 PM
ok, i now feel like the biggest failure and completely stupid... you all STARTED around where i am at now... i started in the 150s and have only gotten myself up to the 160s... my current range has been between 161-167 in the past 2 weeks... i have been taking classes the whole way through the 2 months i've been studying but have managed to fit in about 3 practice tests each week plus practice questions from 2 logic games workbooks.... my score is flipping from 161 one day to 166 the next back to 162 then to 167 then to 161 then to 166 then to 164... I am seriously flipping out now... i'm really scared i will get the lower end of my range (my aim was a 168 cuz i have a 3.85 so i figured that that would give me a solid, 50-50 chance at top 10 schools and i feel like i have some extras and am a minority so that might make me favorable).... now i feel like i have not practiced nearly enough... taking each practice test 4 times; sheesh... my friends think i'm nuts for taking almost 20 tests (they all paid for overpriced $1100 courses and are score about 158-162 pretty consistenly).... I feel like such a slacker now... I have one week left to prepare, what do you recommend that I do? I did not get this bible you are all referring to but I had managed to work my way up to 21 or 22 on the games and now, after focusing more time on the other sections, the games have dropped to 17-18 (mainly, I am having trouble finishing the 4th game) and so I am trying to focus on practicing as much of the games as I can and just regular sections of games or problems from the workbook to work on speed and seeing deductions that can be made faster (while still, of course, doing enough of the other sections to keep my skills high). My highest raw score has been an 81 (although in one instance that has gotten me a 167, go figure) and my all-time low was a 60 which gave me like a 154. In the past two weeks, my scores have been between 75 to 81 (161 to 167) and my aim was a raw score of 85 so that I could get a 168. The break down is roughtly 18 on games, 37-40 on logical reasoning (these used to be at 28-30 so this really is a big jump for me and I don't know what else I can do to improve them), and 22-23 on reading comp.
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Date: September 28, 2002 02:09 PM
CWRUgirl, you are being wayyy too hard on yourself. I am also sensing wayy too much anxiety. Don't you think this could negatively affect your performance on test day? You've made such great improvements in the time you've been studying; you've reached your goal in some of your practice tests; why think you wouldn't do well? The ability to stay calm and keep your stress level under control will be essential for you on test day. You really should have more faith in yourself; you are not someone who just started studying for the LSAT less than two weeks ago . . . your performance on certain sections may have slipped because you neglected them in favor of other sections but it's not like you never did well on the other sections to begin with! Anyway, just my opinion. Get a massage on Friday. :P (ahem, John) <-- sorry, ignore that comment.
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Date: September 29, 2002 09:40 AM
I do not think you have any reason to be discouraged. I would not recommend taking the practice exams more than once or twice. My problem is that I took them all before then June administration and then cancelled my score. I could not sit around for four months doing *nothing* and expect to perform well in October, so I took the exams again. You have shown substantial improvement and you should be proud of that. Regardless of how much you have studied, if you go into the testing room next week feeling like "the biggest failure" then you will probably fail. You have two choices at this point. First you can recognize that you have done an incredible job (which you have). You have worked hard and taken your score from the 70th percentile to the 95th percentile. You can do your best this week and be confident that you will do your best on Saturday. Second (and I do *not* advise this), you can take a year off to mega-prep. You can cancel your October administration, sign up for the June administration, and spend several months prepping like crazy. The ONLY reason I bring up the second option is because it is preferable to the unspoken third option--that you walk into the test next week discouraged and depressed. So my advice is to forget about this thread. Focus on your current strategy, be happy with your progress, and take the exam with confidence next week.
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Date: September 29, 2002 10:34 AM
CWRUgirl...listen, just please breathe, okay? Really, I'm not trying to be patronizing or anything. But the scores you've gotten on your prep tests have been awesome. I would kill for those scores. You've studied long and hard and done just about everything possible. Just walk into the test and take it and remember, it's just a test. I know I know...it has a great deal of impact on where you'll end up, but you know what, it's just a test. Whenever I visit this board, I notice a lot of attention being given to it and I see people tracking their scores and working themselves into a frenzy over it. I think it's safe to say that I've seen people say pretty negative things to others based on LSAT scores (i.e. "you'll never get in with THAT score" or words to that effect - you get the picture). Though to be fair, I have seen many people say a lot of positive and encouraging things. Anyway, you're NOT a failure just because you can't reach a certain score (and who knows, on the day of the test, you might just do a whole lot better than expected). Again, not trying to be patronizing. I'm only trying to keep it in perspective. I've studied for a long time and done everything imaginable(used the bible, taken a ton of prep tests, taken a class, lived, breathed, dreamed the darned lsats) and I can't get past my highest score of 160. But I'm up from 150 so I earned every last point. So did you. Please just take it easy. The score fluctutations you've been noticing might have more to do with exhaustion and studying overload. Cut yourself some slack. You're gonna be okay. And again, sorry if I sounded patronizing or anything. I'm being totally sincere. Good luck!
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Date: September 30, 2002 12:46 PM
Your LSAT prep experience sounds just like mine with only one exception - I did not take any prep courses yet. I have been gearing up towards this October test, but decided to take a December one instead because of the LG section. How useful did you find the class you took in comparison with self-study? Does taking a class help you to improve your weak sections better than studying on your own? Do you think a LSAT tutor would be a better option? Thanks for advice.
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Date: September 30, 2002 06:24 PM
Hi! I really liked the PR tutoring that I had. I think it helped me a lot. My tutor pointed out some relatively simple, but crucial concepts that I just wasn't seeing. And this really helped a lot on my games section (along with the games bible). I was averaging only 4 or 6 questions right on that section when I started tutoring in the beginning of August. The last practice test I took - I got 20 out of 23 right. And I got the 3 wrong 'cause I was pressed for time and made a couple of silly mistakes. It really helped me as far as developing a strategy. It helped me see what I'm good at, what I'm bad at, and how I should approach each section so I get the maximum questions right in each one. It's made me not so nervous about the test which I think is a big factor. But you really have to do the work which I'm sure you're well aware of ;) A big part of why I improved is because I just kept at it. That was my experience anyway. You may be completely different in the way you approach things so think it over carefully before you invest that much money in a class or private tutoring. Does that help at all? Best of luck! I'm sure you'll do just fine come December.
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Date: November 02, 2002 10:22 AM
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Date: November 02, 2002 03:21 PM
While taking practice tests I circled a word if I wasn't 100% confident of its definition. I kept a dictionary handy and looked up all the circled words when I reviewed my right and wrong responses. Knowing the meaning of the words on the exam will help you read faster and prevent you from being distracted by unfamiliar words.
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Date: November 02, 2002 03:46 PM
Are you talking about vocab covered in question stems? For example, what it means for an argument to be "internally inconsistent" or . . . I can't think of anything else really. As far as vocab in RC passages or LR stems go, there usually aren't any difficult words. If you happen to see a word you may not have seen before, you can usually understand the meaning given the context in which it is used.
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Date: November 02, 2002 07:28 PM
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Date: November 02, 2002 08:26 PM
were ever going to make an appearance on this thread. Something is better than nothing I suppose. :)
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Date: November 03, 2002 01:13 PM
I worked with only real LSATs, no additional study aids. I have been a standardized test tutor for nearly three years, so that was a head start. I went from an initial score of 175 to a 179 on the real thing. Of course, if you live in Cincinnati, the best thing you can possibly do is hire that tutor who has the flyers all over U of C :-)
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Date: November 05, 2002 07:12 PM
bump
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Date: November 05, 2002 07:16 PM
oh wait....you beat me to it.
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Date: November 07, 2002 11:41 AM
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Date: November 27, 2002 11:16 PM
Thank you OP!!!!
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Date: November 28, 2002 01:05 AM
Bump--For those taking the February test.
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Date: November 30, 2002 07:13 PM
for meticulous study on the arguments you can photocopy the qeustions from 5-10 tests and then cut out the individual questions. then they can be grouped in catagories based on different qualities. the most obvious catagories are the question types/stems, which is very helpful. after drilling these for a while, you can regroup the cut-outs and recatagorize them into more nuanced sub-group based on different criterior. for example, you could study a stack of questions that deal with tricky concepts of scope, time, or benefit--based on how in depth you want or need to study. or divide them into question subjects (like healthcare, municiple governments, or biology) irrespective of their logical qualities. if you dig deep, there will be loads of other mini-groups (of course, there are also tons of questions that defy all but the most broad classifications). i think it is important to recognize the patterns in the arguments. after a while you might find yourself making up names for the answer types and common tricks. I am not sure I recommend this strategy, and i don't even know if is effective, but to me it didn't really make sense to continue to tackle the exams as a "whole"--or for that matter even the individual sections. just question by question. no doubt, i did do about 20 timed exams before trying to break it down methodically.
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Date: December 05, 2002 01:12 PM
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Date: January 09, 2003 10:33 AM
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Date: January 15, 2003 11:53 PM
There is only one Greatest Thread Ever.
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Date: January 21, 2003 10:32 PM
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