[HoChiMinh] anybody awake? [emcee] more or less [HoChiMinh] do you got the latest jpop? i've been without internet for awhile and the music i'm lstening to right now is getting kinda old... [emcee] sorry not into pop... only got aco and tsutchie [huggiecolors] anybody familiar with deerhoof? I think they might be german, but not really sure. [HoChiMinh] never heard of em [emcee] ok byebye >_< [emcee] redpeople.... [emcee] converting xvidish things to vcd things takes ages..... [Kasumi] see ya emcee [Kasumi] :P [emcee] I'm not going [Kasumi] ? [Kasumi] hahah [Kasumi] ok [Kasumi] got it [emcee] yet * emcee hates r kelly and jay z but I love that fiesta video XDDDDDDDD [orkestra] ouhouhouh!!!!!!!! bélibélo caliméro [huggiecolors] yup, converting any format to s/vcd takes awhile if you want good quality.... [emcee] nani? [orkestra] éééh?? [emcee] yeah but at least it's less slow then trying to change the framerate [huggiecolors] and if you pc is useing resorces ( like running slsk while encoding lol ) [emcee] but that was stupid [emcee] since my dvd+tv can play ntsc [emcee] hehe [emcee] quality is... ok... don't matter that much on tv [huggiecolors] i used to do dvd-rips to s/vcd and divx, but it takes so long...so now i just download them lol [emcee] well @ least not on my 51cm [emcee] that must take years [emcee] converting a 4min video here takes ages [huggiecolors] to do a full leangth film used to take me about 48 hours....that is with nothing else going on on my pc [emcee] wow [huggiecolors] yup [emcee] ages are 8min :-) [emcee] but when nero converts it it's faster but that output crashed my dvd player [huggiecolors] i don't do it much anymore [huggiecolors] i just download them or just go buy them lol [emcee] yeah I download movies too [emcee] only convert the music vids that had stupid encoding [huggiecolors] i am kinda more into divx now anyway [huggiecolors] my laptop has tv out [huggiecolors] so i use it [emcee] IC [emcee] movies I just watch on the pc [emcee] 17inch screen is good enough... [emcee] but it's nice to see something on your tv too every once in a while [emcee] so now I'm having a short vcd madness [huggiecolors] eventually i will have a completeley integrated pc into my home entertainment system that will replace everything except my reciever and sarround speakers [emcee] cool [huggiecolors] wow i can't type this morning lol [emcee] well I can understand that you mean surround with it....... [emcee] so fuck it XDDD [daisuke] nice name, huggie [huggiecolors] the upside to divx is you can have dolby digital audio, dvd-like menus [daisuke] :D [huggiecolors] TY [emcee] dolby digital doesn't mean much to me.. I just want loud stereo [emcee] and my sony speakers are good @ it ^_^ [emcee] everything in my room starts shaking even when it's not that loud [daisuke] lol * jabbar reencodes his mpegs into vcd format so he could play it on his 27' TV [jabbar] sometimes there's massive loss of quality [emcee] hey sir jabbar ^_^ [huggiecolors] i just recenty learned how to make interactive menues for my divx...i have all of seasons 1, 5, and 6 of the X-files with AC-3 sound...can get two eps. per disc, so i created theses cool DVD menus for them [_Parker__] I watch DiVXs on mah 55" HDTV and sometimes they don't look like crap! :) [emcee] yah vcd isn't the best quality ever :-) [jabbar] that's king jabbar, but you are forgiven, sir emcee [emcee] lol [_Parker__] freaking harry fell back asleep [daisuke] Hail, King jabbar [emcee] mista jabbar [_Parker__] like, plop, right back onto the couch * daisuke claps a fist to his chest [jabbar] lol * jabbar goes back to answering fanmails [_Parker__] yo jabbar ^^ [huggiecolors] svcd is better than vcd [emcee] yeah but the source was in vcd [emcee] so I burn vcd [huggiecolors] ic [emcee] svcd has higher res too right [emcee] ? [_Parker__] huggie: yesh, you would think that vcd with an s in front of it would be better, no matter how you think about it :D [emcee] could also mean shitty vcd [huggiecolors] higher bitrate [_Parker__] well, I suppose it's entirely possible that somebody took a format like VCD and decided to make "Sucky VCD" [jabbar] you can only fit 40 minutes of audio+video for svcd [emcee] I have a spc [_Parker__] just higher bitrate [daisuke] mmmmm [jabbar] actually, higher resolution as well [daisuke] shower time, then to the mall to play DDR XD [_Parker__] and then there's xsvcd which allows high vbr I believe [_Parker__] cya daisuke. [daisuke] lates [jabbar] vcd is normally 352x240 resolution [emcee] baibai [_Parker__] svcd is higher resolution? [emcee] have fun [huggiecolors] i have the two towers in divx formate that was ripped from a DVD screener...the quality on it is awesome [Kasumi] afk [Kasumi] :D [_Parker__] it's full res? [emcee] 354*288 for pal [emcee] no [emcee] oops [emcee] 352 [emcee] 352*240 [emcee] no [emcee] dam [emcee] n [jabbar] yes, 352 x288 for pal, the one earlier is ntsc [emcee] 352*288 [emcee] ah [emcee] that's more like it [huggiecolors] yeah, but higher bitrate is where the real quality of the vid is at [_Parker__] right, so what res is svcd? [jabbar] bitrate is for audio [emcee] yeah less compression mess [emcee] vcd doesn't have really bad audio [huggiecolors] well vcd is if i remember correctly 1100k [emcee] whooo I got 5 on it almost done [huggiecolors] but neither vcd or svcd can do AC-3 or DTS [emcee] quality got killed [emcee] but I don't care [huggiecolors] divx can do both [jabbar] i think it's 478x360 for svcd [emcee] yeah but like i said I just need loud stereo [huggiecolors] i need digital surrond LOL [Malcolm] i got two towers screening copy - perfect quality dvd [_Parker__] SVCD's resolution is 2x higher than VCD's, in PAL the resolution is 480x576 and in NTSC it is 480x480. Framerates are 25fps and 29.97fps, just like in any other video format [_Parker__] from here: http://www.afterdawn.com/glossary/terms/svcd.cfm [_Parker__] that's odd [jabbar] ah, you got it better [huggiecolors] some good sites for all your s/vcd or divx or xvid etc. are vcdhelp.com or doom9.org [jabbar] framerates never change [_Parker__] I definitely know that VCD is not 240x240...so it's not exactly 2x. probably a bum definition [emcee] tv can't handle different framerates right? [emcee] yeah Parker [emcee] 352 [emcee] *240 [jabbar] due to persistence of vision, seing something move 30 times in a second counts as as movement and not static [jabbar] you gotta remember, the aspect ratio is 4x3 [_Parker__] jabbar: you're talking to a video professional actually :) it's just that VCD/SVCD is not something video professionals generally deal with :P * jabbar took tv engineering class back in college [_Parker__] persistence of vision will cause believable movement at far lower framerates than 30 [jabbar] so i had to learn it too [huggiecolors] the futur is divx lol [jabbar] yes, 24 frames is the minimum actually [jabbar] that's why movies use that [_Parker__] why do you think PAL is only 25i? [_Parker__] nope, not even 24, even though that's film's standard. [jabbar] hmm, must've remembered wrong then * jabbar took it last april [emcee] pal = 25 [_Parker__] the bottom of persistence of vision is between 8 and 12 depending on content. that's why many flash movies use 12 [emcee] Frame rate: 25.00 frames/sec [_Parker__] the reason games run up at 60 is because they can't realistically simulate motion blur in realtime right now [emcee] Picture Size: 352 x 288 [emcee] Bit rate: 1150000 bits/sec [huggiecolors] 23.?? NTSC film standard [emcee] on my pcs games run @ 10 fps max XDDDDDDDDD [_Parker__] 23.97/8 is drop-frame 24 [jabbar] 352x288 means that theres 352 'lines' horizontally and 288 vertically [emcee] that's the res of the source [emcee] the framerate of the source = 25 [jabbar] 352 x 288 can be condensed into 4x3, hence, the aspect ration [_Parker__] so by this we can infer that the actual images presented have a lot to do with our perception of motion :) [_Parker__] 24 fps in the theater looks far more believable than 24 fps in a game [jabbar] that's tv, but hdtv, it's 16x9 or the aspect ratio of regular tv squared [jabbar] yes [emcee] vcd has 16x9 modes too I think [_Parker__] actually 4:3 is 1.3:1, and 352x288 is 1.2:1 [huggiecolors] which is why emcee is smokin' weed...it all looks good to him LOL [_Parker__] they're close, but not quite [emcee] hell yeah [jabbar] it's 352 x 240 [emcee] no I'm just lame [jabbar] sorry [huggiecolors] LOL [emcee] 6:30min and I can burn it [emcee] whooooohoooooooooo [jabbar] 1.3:1 is lame-o us tech-speak, all others simply use 4:3 so as to not confuse the sheep [emcee] california love XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD [jabbar] warren G? [emcee] I use moviethingything [emcee] nah [_Parker__] 352x240 - 1.4:1 . . . it doesn't need to be exactly 4:3 is what I'm saying. also 16x9 also happens to be very close to the most common theatrical cropping [emcee] 2pac [emcee] I use movielikeonmytv [emcee] and movielikeonwidescreentv [huggiecolors] wow, i am d/ling from this guy and the spped is jumping from like 8 or 10k to .8k lol he must be on a cable connection [_Parker__] also, 1.3:1 is not lame-o US tech-speak, it's the way aspect ratios are described by people who shoot on film. [ForestChoice] looking for macross plus soundtrack... [emcee] in maths can you have not whole numbers in something like 4:3? [ForestChoice] looking for ELT...best of friends.. [_Parker__] and seeing as my company shoots on a camera that is for all intents and purposes equivalent to a 35mm motion picture camera in quality, I often resort to using that nomenclature [jabbar] well, us engineers who created the standard used 4:3, and we're supposed to be the tech geeks [_Parker__] and with that, I leave :) [emcee] the less good your brains translate stuff you see and hear the better cause it saves you in high quality stuff [_Parker__] you can be the tech geek, but I'm out in the field usin' it damnit :) [emcee] lol [huggiecolors] but i have the bigest penis LOL [emcee] O_o [emcee] that's a little too much info..... [huggiecolors] haha [emcee] Video-CD NTSC (MPEG-1 352x240 29,97fps CBR 1150kbps, Layer-2 44100Hz 224kbps) * _Parker__ away going to the beach finally :P [emcee] baaaaaaaaaaaibaaaaaaaaaaaai [emcee] have fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun [emcee] @ the beeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaach [emcee] don't think about video stuff now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [jabbar] look at us, fighting over something trivial [jabbar] let's all have a hug [emcee] fighting? [jabbar] it's actually 320 x 240 [emcee] who's fighting? [huggiecolors] only think about video at the beach if you are filming the pretty beach women [jabbar] man, i really need to hit the books again [emcee] hehe [emcee] puhduhboooom [emcee] movie done [emcee] uh.. video clip [emcee] jump up jump up and get down [emcee] wow 3 sads cds is a lot of music [jabbar] from robert's ftp? [emcee] yup [emcee] I listened 2 [emcee] and now listening the other [emcee] it's rules pretty much ^_^ [emcee] and super junky monkey was cool too [huggiecolors] still can't get on there [emcee] poor huggie [jabbar] no thanks to people like emcee hogging the bandwidth [huggiecolors] always too busy [emcee] I'm not connected [emcee] uh... it was zax's idea :-) [jabbar] anyway, lotsa people know about his ftp, you just gotta be lucky and keep trying to log in [huggiecolors] just tried 10 times to get on....and no luck [emcee] 10 times? [emcee] yesterday I tried 800 times [huggiecolors] lol [emcee] it's true [emcee] I tried all day [huggiecolors] jabbar it looks like you are about to get all the hitomi pics [emcee] and it got on just before I went to bed [jabbar] thanks for sharing [HardCopy] hey does anyone have any j-punk? [huggiecolors] i just want some walrus and mono stuff [!GermanSuplex] hi [!GermanSuplex] are you guys into anime? [nxs] i saw cornelius the other nite [jabbar] i did managed to get on robert's ftp a few times, [HardCopy] anyone any japanese punk [jabbar] around 4 or five times i think [nxs] i was disapointed [emcee] hey a alternative version of tequila sunrise [nxs] they were really boring [!GermanSuplex] im looking for some cyber japanese rock [emcee] more sen dog [!GermanSuplex] the only point of refference i have is the anime toons i watched which had cool tunes on it [!GermanSuplex] sort of like sped up smashing pumpkin solos minus the singing [!GermanSuplex] any ideas guys? any artist i could check out that matches that kind of thing? [emcee] no singing? [emcee] what good is it to have japanaese smashing pumpkins without singing? [!GermanSuplex] singing would be cool to [emcee] that's better ^_^ [!GermanSuplex] maybe theres something with hardcore solo after hardcore solo..that would be nuts [emcee] lookin' for metal? [emcee] get sex machineguns [!GermanSuplex] dunno really man [emcee] just get sex machineguns :-) [!GermanSuplex] hey great i will try that out [emcee] cool [!GermanSuplex] i was recomended the pillows [!GermanSuplex] pillows are great [!GermanSuplex] but they were not what i was after [emcee] pillows I dunno... [!GermanSuplex] yeh they are relatively unknown even in japan [!GermanSuplex] you can find three tunes from them on google [emcee] I'll check that out sometime [emcee] anyways.. look in my files [emcee] 01 albums\(japanese) sex machineguns\ folder [emcee] and download ignition [emcee] or if you only want a song...... [emcee] 07 Akuma No Keshin.mp3 from that album [emcee] or 13 Yonaoshi Good Vibration.mp3 [emcee] I gotta go eat, laterz [!GermanSuplex] sure man. thanks for the word