by: Nashid

Attached is a discussion I had with a White Nationalist on another board who corrected me for using the term "White Supremacist".
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Dear Maguire:

Thank you for being so "technical". You are right I should not use terms such as "white supremacists", etc. As a Muslim I also am very sensitive about being referred to wrongly. But most of all we do not want to fall into the Zionist trap of giving people labels according to the Zionist plan. I stand corrected!

As for your comments regarding oneness of humanity I don't totally agree with you. Of course no two snowflake, raindrop or leaves are alike. As human beings we are not equal to each other. We all are unique in our mental and physical identity. But in identifying as human beings there are two parts. "Hu" referring to the flesh and "man" referring to the mind dwelling in the flesh.

As complex as the human being is with intelligence, a soul, emotions, integrity, pride, etc. don't you think that the color of the "Hu" in which they were born is a shallow way for us to be defined? Especially since the "Hu" they are born in, they have no control over but the mind that dwells in that "Hu" they have some control over? I think focusing on the differences in "Hu" as a basis for human identification is demeaning.

If you were to allow babies of different races to start life and grow up with each other in the same room, I am sure they will find other means by which to identify each other, other than skin color. They would refer to each other using human qualities such as smart, funny, insightful, crooked, kind, loving, etc. Those of us experiencing working with people belonging to other races closely may have already experienced this.

As for what makes races mentally different it is the environment or the influences they grow up with. "Words make people and a word is anything that sends a message to your mind." What you experience through the windows of your 5 senses are words that forms and shapes your inner being. An Indian baby born in the midst of only Chinese speaking people will grow up speaking Chinese not Urdu. That is because the influences the “words” of his environment are what shaped his inner being not the color or composition of his "Hu".

As for your discussion about the Africans and the Haitians it is pure bullshit! Obviously you don't know much about African history. If you did you would know that at the height of the great Islamic cultures in Ghana, Timbuktu, Mali, Gao and of other west African societies learning in Philosophy and Science reached a very high level. They lead the world in learning in their day and had the greatest libraries of that era. Scholars from all over the world used to come to study with the learned Africans. All this of course got destroyed later on by the Europeans who had the big guns and superior arms. But just like an elephant has more physical mass than a human being it does not make that elephant more intelligent. Other races may have focused their energies in developing excellent human qualities and as such saw no need for weapons of mass destruction. But if your 17 year old child beats you up because he has a gun and a knife it still does not make him mentally superior to you. He is still a child with a dangerous weapon in his hand.

As for the Haitians do you know what it means to be totally stripped of your identity? Slavery took the slaves language, culture, religion and everything away from them. They were blank minds with clean slates as if they were just beginning in life. Of course they were no competition to advanced societies that had knowledge and culture passed on to them from generation to generation. One of the reasons why the Jews are so "smart" and successful is because they have had a continuous culture for thousands of years. Knowledge and culture has been passed on going way back to the time of the Romans, the Chaldeans, the Egyptians, etc. Although the Jews were slaves at different times in history they never had their identity totally stripped from them as the African slaves did. As for the Europeans, Chinese and others they are also better equipped than the African descendents of slaves. They may not be as tight knit or go back as far as the Jews but these cultures also have knowledge passed on from more generations than the descendents of African slaves in America.

As for the epidemic of aids and venereal disease I am sure that western societies would suffer the same if not worse than the Africans if we did not have the education and wealth that we had. With the way pornography and sexploitation is pushed in the west, if we were poor, uneducated people we probably would have a worse outbreak of aids and venereal diseases than the Africans. Case in point, look at what the plague did to Europe as a result of ignorance and filthy living conditions. It wiped out 25% of the European population in a matter of about 5 years.

As I said "words make people". Our "Hu" is of the substance of the earth. We have no control over that. As a result we should not be cursed forever by others as a result of it. But our minds, we do have control of and we can allow ourselves to be whatever we want to be based on the influences we allow to shape our inner selves.
Regarding race the Quran says, "God has created you into different races, nations and tribes not for you to despise each other but for you to KNOW each other." In his last speech on Mount Arafat Prophet Muhammad said, "There is no superiority of an Arab over a non-Arab and of a non-Arab over an Arab; or of white over black or of black over white, except in piety. Truly, the noblest among you is the most pious." Although diverse humanity is truly ONE with the same rights to strive to achieve excellence in all endeavours of life!

Maguire wrote:
>>Maybe through working together in this common cause the White Supremacists may see that
humanity is really one.<<

Your first error, and a major reason the non-white anti-Zionist resistance has failed for 50 years, is your unthinking adoption of a pejorative, "White Supremacist", used by the Zionists to describe others they oppose and wish to rule. Would you like me to use the Zionist pejorative of "criminal Muslim Terrorist" to describe all Palestinians who oppose the savage Zionist entity? Of course not.

Pro-whites describes themselves in many ways. "Separatist" is one. "White Nationalist" is another. Some even self-describe as "National Socialist". None use the phrases "Supremacist" or "Nazi", which are both epithets hurled by the Zionists of the ADL and similar organizations. The transparent purpose is to demonize and divide their many opponents against themselves. Most sentient beings try to understand the universe through their own lens. Understanding different people is most difficult of all. These Judeo-Zionist epithets are far more descriptive of the Zionists themselves than of the people the Zionist applies them to.

As for being "one" I interpret this as an assumption of 'equality. I am not a believer in that particular faith. There is no evidence for this proposition on the physical and temporal planes and there is much against it.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg

There are marvellous consistencies in this beautiful photo of Earth at night. One consistency is found in the areas we can objectively describe as "The Dark Lands". Now whether these Dark Lands are found in sub-Saharan Africa, Belize, New Guinea or the western part of Hispaniola called "Haiti" there are consistent themes. These themes are populations and governments dominated by Negroes. The brightest part of sub-Saharan Africa, South Africa, also has the greatest density of WHITE PEOPLE (or the least density of Negroes). In contrast Haiti shares a racial commonality with the rest of Heart of Darkness Africa. That is populations and governments that are exclusively Negro. And this is despite the immense gap of ocean and historical experience (in the last two centuries) with the rest of Africa.

Ah! But I hear many someone’s reactively respond, "This result is a left-over usufruct of slavery, racism and colonialism." To be a scientific explanation a theory must explain all observed data. 'Racism' and 'colonialism' do not explain Haiti's nigh time unity with the other Dark lands. Haiti has been an independent Negro controlled country since the Napoleonic Wars. This came about when the Negro population rose up in a Rwanda style bloodbath and slaughtered every single white person.

Haiti was thus free of the pernicious effects (if any) of racism or colonialism long before the rest of Negro Africa was even colonized. Yet Haiti's demonstrated ability to manage energy and technology is identical to all other places dominated by Negroes.

The pro-white theory is that these unitary results have a First Cause arising in genes, not environment or past history. Whether or not people find this explanation amenable to their pre-existing philosophies is irrelevant. It is the best predictive lens applied to the NASA photo montage, Negro government styles and is thus the most 'scientific'.

There is also a unity in Negro political results, too. In areas where Negroes are both a majority and have exercise political power there is a consistent result. This is one man, one vote, once, followed by dictatorship until a coup or other violent government overthrow occurs and the next dictatorship installs itself. In areas where Negroes are a minority this expresses itself in lower voter turnout and participation rates. A recent example from Meridian Mississippi is classic. In a public housing project with about 3,500 eligible black voters precisely SIX (-6- ) voted in the last municipal election. These people clearly have a different conception of what self-rule means.

Another unitary result among Negroes of all continents is the higher than average virulence of AIDS/HIV in their populations. For a very long time competent observers have consistently reported that Negroes are far more sexually promiscuous than whites or yellows.
The public health results of venereal disease certainly support this idea.

Now I am completely opposed to Negro slavery. It is a public evil of the first magnitude. It devalues the labor of the white working man and impoverishes his family. This is for the benefit of rich elites. This barbaric practice also leads to widespread race-mixing and miscegenation.

Despite this the idea of 'wez all ekwals' is demonstrably false. It is false among populations of genetically related peoples and it becomes falser as the gaps grow. As a restricted theoretical construct for discovering the truth in a court trial 'equality' has some utility. Its extension past that boundary to the ridiculous ideas of equality in talents or a requirement for equality in results has caused vast suffering among any population afflicted by these transparent lies.

I would never presume to pass a judgement on what happens to any individual after death. That realm lies in the Hands of the Almighty. I cannot speak to or about Islam. I have read too little of the Koran to make intelligent comments. And even if I were to study all of a particular translation I suspect there are the same problems of original source documents, translation and interpretation that afflict all religious scriptures I know of.

I do know the Christian New Testaments don't even support the idea of equal spirituality, even among Christians. Paul writes extensively about the differing gifts of the Spirit even intra-group among Christians.

The results of the Indian sub-continent experiment in admixing races, religions and languages decisively disprove Zionist Israel Zangwill's ravings about some "melting pot". The geographic region called India has not obtained a stable alloy from the experiment. The results there have been a permanently unstable human compound best compared to nitro-glycerine.

Best Regards,

"Maguire"