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Re: Rumor: S8 sound film revived by EKC? Author: Super8mm Date: 1999/02/26 Forum: alt.movies.cinematography.super8 ---> Your Source for Super 8mm & Regular 8mm Film Services <--- MARTIN W. BAUMGARTEN Plattsburgh, New York 12901-1827 U.S.A. Tel: (518) 561-6312 E-Mail: [email protected] Website: http://members.aol.com/Super8mm/Super8mm.html * Business hours Mon-Fri 9am - 5pm e.s.t. Closed for all USA holidays. --> Visit KODAK's New Super 8 dedicated site! http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/super8/ February 26, 1999 Hi George, You posted: >I don't want to start a rumor, but on the cinematography forum on >the web, http://www.cinematography.com there was a poster who mentioned >that s/he had heard from a filmmaker that Kodak had "perfected an >environmentally friendly design" for single system Super 8 prestriped >stock manufacture. ---> Well, the news that I received and others was almost correct. It was stated by a firm in the Netherlands (Jewe Photo) that Kodak Germany was reintroducing the 200ft cartridge with Sound Kodachrome film. I researched this thoroughly, and even The Widescreen Centre in England believed this to be so. ---> The new word is that the film is coming out next month (March), however...it will be 200ft on cores....for user loading into the Beaulieu manufactured 200ft Super 8 Magazine. So, it's definite...no 200ft plastic cartridges, and no 50ft cartridges. ---> The film is supposed to be available sound striped also, and Tony Shapps is checking into this. If this is so....I will consider cutting this filmstock down to 50ft lengths and reloading it into Sound or Silent Super 8 cartridges to order. (and maybe even into Single-8 cartridges, provided I can get enough of these). So.....something's happening soon, more details are forthcoming...and sadly...it's not what many of us hoped for. ---> On another note: Now with FUJI discontinuing their Sound-Striped Single-8 filmstock in both silent and sound cartridges....it means the ending of my reloading services of this stock into Super 8 sound or silent cartridges. I had hoped that demand for FUJI Single-8 Sound film would pick up, enough so that they (FUJI) would decide to keep making it. But, it didn't happen. Too many Super 8 users don't really understand what Single-8 film is, and frankly.....everyone just kept scrambling within the past two years to keep getting whatever Kodak sound film stock they could find. What's that overused adage...use it or lose it?! >Many of you may recall Kodak's famous communique >about Super 8, where they mentioned they were forced to discontinue S8 >sound stock, as well as the dreadful type G Ektachrome, because of >environmental concerns. ---> We used to refer to the Ektachrome Type G, "Type G for Garbage"! IF used in mixed lighting situations, it was pretty good. The only other way to get really decent color out of it...was to filter it so that it's color temperature matched that of the available light. It was a bit too cool for Daylight, and way too warm for Tungsten......color rated at approximately 4400�K. ---> Anyhow, to recap....the demise of sound striped film is a big loss to the Super 8mm community. Perhaps something can be worked out eventually. I just hope that sound striping materials get made again...so that we can continue to at least have post-process sound-striping. With so many Super 8mm filmmakers now transferring their work to video and doing all their post-production work on video with the final product on video....it's hard to say if there is or will be enough interest to warrant the investments required to keep sound striping alive. Time, as always will determine things for us all. I for one, like to remain optimistic. They'll have to cut my fingers off to remove my Super 8mm camera from my dead corpse's hand! :o) Best wishes, Martin W. Baumgarten
Subject: Super 8mm SOUND Film Situation From: [email protected] (Super8mm) Date: 1999/03/04 Newsgroups: alt.movies.cinematography.super8 Here folks....are the facts regarding the rumor of sound Super 8mm film being made in Germany. It's both good and bad news....but, hey, at least someone is doing something. Best wishes, Martin W. Baumgarten 18 February 1999 All in PMI UK Ladies & gentlemen, 200 FT ROLLS OF KODACHROME 25 & 40 ( MUTE & SOUND ) On 1 January 1997 we announced the discontinuance of Kodachrome and Ektachrome Sound film and also the discontinuance of 200 ft ( 60m ) rolls of either product. In the past few weeks Kodak UK PMI has received several enquiries concerning the re-introduction of Kodachrome Sound film Please Note. Kodak will NOT be re-introducing either Kodachrome or Ektachrome Sound Films or 200 Ft spools of these films. ( In fact all the sound striping equipment has been dismantled and scrapped ). However please note that Kodak has supplied S8 "pancakes" of both Kodachrome 25 & 40 to: Ritter Film & Videotechnik GmbH, Hans -Thoma -Strasse 1, D-68163 MANNHEIM GERMANY. Phone ( 49 ) 621 328880 Fax ( 49 ) 621 3288822 E-Mail [email protected] He is supplying a 200 ft magazine ( at a cost of approx. � 3000 or $ 5000 ), for use on 200 ft load camera. The use of the magazine also requires a camera modification of approx. � 340 or $ 560. He also supplies: a). 200 ft rolls of Kodachrome 25 or 40 Mute at a cost of approx. � 75 ( inc. VAT ) or $ 124 b). 200 ft rolls of Kodachrome 25 or 40 Stripe at a cost of approx. �85 ( inc. VAT ) or $140 Note in the UK the list price for a 50 ft cartridge of Kodachrome = �9.73 ( inc. VAT ) ACTION . If you get an enquiry from a UK customer, please tell them that we do not make S8 sound film or 200 ft rolls and we have no plans to reintroduce these products. Please then refer the customer to: Mr Tony Shapps at "The Wide Screen Centre" on 0171 935 2580. If the enquiry comes from a non UK customer, please give them the same information, but refer them to Ritter Film & Videotechnik, at the address given above. If you have any questions please let me know. Best regards, Peter Milson, Marketing Planning Manager, Kodak Professional Motion Imaging.