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To prevent this picking, some farmers will remove a portion of the upper beak on all the chicks.  This makes it difficult for them to pick on each other.  It also makes it harder for them to eat.
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Boike et al. have estimated that in the year 2005 approximately 854,000 hysterectomies will be  performed in the United States. Approximately 4,000 of the women who undergo removal of both ovaries at the time of hysterectomy will avoid the ravages of ovarian cancer. Boike suggests that if all women over age 40 who undergo hysterectomy have their ovaries routinely removed, 2,200 additional women may avoid subsequent development of ovarian cancer. The routine castration of all women who undergo hysterectomy at age 40 is laudable in its attempt to avoid ovarian cancer in the future, but it remains a highly inefficient approach to reduce the risks of developing the disease. Removing 1.7 million ovaries to avoid 2,200 malignancies is highly inefficient, as 99.75% of the castrated women are unlikely to develop ovarian cancer. 


The posting of the above quotation from 
Prophylactic Oophorectomy for the Prevention of Epithelial Ovarian Cancer Revisited  Author: P.E. Schwartz, Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Yale University School of Medicine, New Haven, USA 
brought forth much argument which was probably caused by some people having read only the quote, while others had read the whole article:

Which part do you disagree with -- the part that says it's laudable to try to eliminate ovarian cancer, or the part that says it's inefficient to perform surgery on millions of healthy women?

I would think it would be the part that said:  "The routine castration of all women who undergo hysterectomy at age 40 is laudable in its attempt to avoid ovarian cancer in the future," 

("Laudable" seems to be applying to the "routine castration" phrase more closely than to the "avoid ovarian cancer" phrase.) It's not laudable!  It's stupid.  The routine castration of women undergoing hysterectomy is extreme. 

I raise chickens, just as a hobby, but I have studied some of the methods used by commercial chicken farmers.  Sometimes chickens will pick at each other, and if one gets bloody all the rest pick on it until it has huge sores.  It will even die unless rescued soon enough. To prevent this picking, some farmers will remove a portion of the upper beak on all the chicks.  This makes it difficult for them to pick on each other.  It also makes it harder for them to eat. 

But, if chickens aren't kept in a crowded environment, under artificial lighting and conditions, they don't pick.  (I let my chickens free-range in an orchard of about 1/3 acre in size.  In the fifteen years I've been doing this I've never had any chickens pick on others.)  So... why not adjust the housing arrangements for the chickens instead of mutilating them? 

This only is a minor analogy to castrated women, but still... why mutilate 99.75 percent of the women who are undergoing hysterectomy, unnecessarily?  Why not alter the situation -- study and develop better ways to diagnose ovarian cancer? 

Mutilating healthy chicks to prevent picking impairs them.  Mutilating healthy women by removing their ovaries impairs them, and to a much greater degree. 

(Sorry for getting on my soapbox, but this is something that really makes me angry!) 

Lianne 



The recent discussion of the article on female castration by P. Schwartz et al published on medscape is the focus of this rant. It was suggested by some asm posters that since the conclusion apparently favored fewer routine castrations at the time of hysterectomy this was a pro woman article, and that the authors had merely used clumsy wording. I disagree. 

 To consider the routine castration of women "laudable" regardless of the nobility of the intent is bizarre. The authors argue for reducing the number of routine castration on the grounds that this is not an efficient procedure. Nowhere do these authors suggest that castration *injures* the woman who has been subjected to the surgery. They do not even deign to acknowledge that castration has lifelong adverse consequences for the castrate. Someone has suggested that the author's use of the word castration implies their disapproval of routinely performing oopherectomies. The body of the article makes it quite clear that these authors 

  1. don't disapprove of castration of healthy women, 
  2. are actually only concerned with making the procedure and the selection process, more efficient, even going so far as to suggest a procedure in which healthy ovaries can be removed at the time of vaginal hysterectomy (efficiency is the issue remember). 
The remainder of this very long article makes it quite clear that the authors have no ethical or moral problem with routine castration. They do not see it as harmful to women, merely inefficient, since the disease they seek to prevent is so rare. They argue that all postmenopausal women having surgery for benign gyn reasons should be castrated at that time. Post menopausal ovaries are apparently not only expendable; post menopausal women are actually better off without them. 
    I quote 
    "[Women who undergo vaginal hysterectomy frequently do not have their ovaries removed. This is regrettable as it is a relatively straightforward operation. Sheth has been able to show an approximately 90% success rate in removing ovaries in women who have undergone vaginal hysterectomies in India. Certainly a laparoscopic-assisted approach can be employed if one is  uncomfortable in the technique of removing ovaries at hysterectomy through the vaginal approach.There is little excuse for failing to remove the ovaries in postmenopausal women at the time of elective hysterectomy (emphasis mine)
They also argue for the routine castration of forty + year old nulliparous white women who have hysterectomies for benign reasons. 
I quote 
    "Using the above indications for surgery the following are examples illustrating how the author would personally make judgments with patients regarding when  the ovaries should be removed or retained at the time of hysterectomy for benign indications. A 41 year old nulligravida, Caucasian female who is undergoing a hysterectomy for the management of pelvic pain ascribed to a benign gynaecologic condition would do best by having both ovaries removed at that surgery. In turn a 45 year old gravida 5, para 5 African-American female undergoing surgery for symptomatic uterine leiomyomata is at a low risk for developing ovarian cancer and, unless the ovaries appeared grossly abnormal on inspection, would not require removal of the ovaries at the time of elective surgery. Even in patients with whom the author has an agreement preoperatively not to plan bilateral oophorectomy on a routine basis as it is the patients' wish to  retain the ovaries, the patient and the author agree in advance of surgery that ovaries grossly suspicious for malignancy will be removed at that surgery." (Numbers for cites have been removed)
 In short it's perfectly acceptable to remove healthy ovaries in large numbers of women having hysterectomies, despite the very small numbers of women who have hysterectomies who go on to develop ovarian cancer. Just not quite all of them. Apparently some people see this as a major step forward. I don't. I think these authors are a group of butchers who clearly show their contempt for women and women's organs. Can you imagine anyone suggesting that large numbers of testicles be removed to prevent testicular cancer - say castration of all males undergoing surgery for benign prostate conditions? After all testosterone and its derivatives feed prostate cancer so why not while we're in there...? Yet castration of the male is a very simple matter- far more efficient than castration of the female. 

Tetje 
 

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http://www.medscape.com/PMSI/EMJ/1997/v04.n03/emj0403.05.schw/emj0403.05.schw.html for the offending article. (Free registration is required)

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