From: [email protected] (Corvuequis) Subject: Re: BlackBane learns about Payback Date: 18 Jan 1997 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> references:organization: AOL http://www.aol.com newsgroups: alt.religion.wicca x-admin: [email protected] I for one do not appreciate Icewinds response to Blackbane (even though I am not a fan of that particular bird). I think we a sacrificing our first ammendment rights by refusing him his say. He warned you not to read his post. Your responses show what little faith you have in the goddess and the threefold law of retribution. It also shows what little faith you have in yourselves. So go ahead Kick me off to because it is obvious that you do not like that wich is different from you. Corvuequis the terrier who barks at nothing ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From: [email protected] (Peter Stephen Thomas III) Subject: Re: BlackBane learns about Payback Date: 18 Jan 1997 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> references: <19970118182500.NAA13496@lad der01.news.aol.com> organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee newsgroups: alt.religion.wicca Corvuequis ([email protected]) wrote: : I for one do not appreciate Icewinds response to Blackbane (even though I : am not a fan of that particular bird). I think we a sacrificing our first : ammendment rights by refusing him his say. He warned you not to read his : post. Your responses show what little faith you have in the goddess and : the threefold law of retribution. It also shows what little faith you have : in yourselves. : So go ahead Kick me off to because it is obvious that you do not like that : wich is different from you. : : Corvuequis : the terrier who barks at nothing I'm certainly willing to accord Blackbane the right to speak his/her/it's piece but accordingly, I demand he/she/it respect my opinions and beliefs as I respect his/her/it's. If Blackbane had done the same stunts on any other religious newgroup, what type of treatment would he/she/it have received? I'm certain that they would be a disgusted with his/her/it's arrogant manner and spoken to his/her/it's SysAdmin and taken similar action. And I have the greatest respect for the 3 Fold Law. But I will also not allow someone to befoul my beliefs and then hide behind the 1st Amendment. Implicit within both the Rede AND the 1st Amendment is the concept of respect. Respecting that which is different from you, even though you don't agree with it or think that it's wrong. Blackbane has shown us d**n little respect. We tried to speak with him/her/it when he/she/it befouled us. We then went to his/her/it's SysAdmin and worked an agreement out there. I'll be happy to respect someone's opinion, even when I disgree with it but by the Gods I'll not be a doormat for some young snot-nose brat whose just read "Silver Broomstick" and has computer access. *bright blessings* Peter Thomas -- Bearhugs & Footrubs "I'll lose my beard when they shave it from my cold, dead face!" Quote from the Razor's Anonymous Handbook Peter Thomas is [email protected] B3/4 f+ t w- s r k+ (aka Freyr on IRC) ************************************************************************** ** FIGHT THE CDA!! DON'T LET THEM TAKE AWAY YOUR FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION ** ************************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From: [email protected] (LANCE) Subject: Re: BlackBane learns about Payback Date: 20 Jan 1997 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> references: <19970118182500.NAA13496@lad der01.news.aol.com> organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas newsgroups: alt.religion.wicca Corvuequis ([email protected]) wrote: : I for one do not appreciate Icewinds response to Blackbane (even though I : am not a fan of that particular bird). I think we a sacrificing our first : ammendment rights by refusing him his say. He warned you not to read his : post. Your responses show what little faith you have in the goddess and : the threefold law of retribution. It also shows what little faith you have : in yourselves. : So go ahead Kick me off to because it is obvious that you do not like that : wich is different from you. : Corvuequis : the terrier who barks at nothing Corvequis, it would be nice were you to keep up on the events. As this post is regarding my response, I feel it only fair to defend myself. 1.> The particular post I was angry about had no disclaimer. 2.> I worked for upwards of a week to find a peaceful resolution to the whole BlackBane ordeal and am now exchanging thoelogy ideas with BlackBane. 3.> I didn't kick anyone off. BlackBane's sysop kicked her off because she hacked a UK account or some such. I just thought I had. 4.> As for hating things that are different. Have you read the disclaimer to almost every advice/thoughts post I have ever made? I use a veritable plethora of IMHO's and IME's and consistantly state that the things I type are not neccesarily the opinion of anyone but myself, and even then its uncertain. So, in conclusion, please look a bit deeper into the problem before you accuse me of being something I am not. Thank you. -Icewind