sivrcis gafarToeba obieqturi procesia

gvesaubreba politologi kaxa kacitaZe

- rogor fiqrobT, ratom gzavnis SeerTebuli Statebi samxedro instruqtorebs saqarTveloSi?

- Cemi azriT, amas akeTeben ramodenime mizezis gamo. pirveli aris is, rom Cvens qveyanas aqvs kargi geostrategiuli mdgomareoba. aq ar aris laparaki marto navTobsadenebze, gazsadenebze da imaze, rasac Cveulebriv asaxeleben xolme. cxadia, esec raRaca rols asrulebs, magram, ZiriTadad, am daxmarebas gviweven ufro martivi mizezis gamo. ara marto amerika, dasavleTic amas akeTebs imitom, rom dasavleTis gafarToeba, im sivrcis gafarToeba, rasac dasavleTi hqvia, aris obieqturi procesi. nebismier sistemas axasiaTebs gafarToebis tendencia da esenic, bunebrivia, farTovdebian.

- ratom aris am procesSi CarTuli saqarTveloc?

- diax, es aris yvelaze saintereso da me aq imdenad samxedro-strategiul da ekonomikur momentebze ar gavamaxvilebdi yuradRebas, ramdenadac civilizaciurze. ubralod, Cven varT maTi nawili, e.i. varT is nawili, romelic, raRaca mizezebis gamo, mowyvtili iyo maTgan - ai, es aris mTavari. me, Cems Tavs ar vansxvaveb nebismieri evropelisagan an amerikelisagan. rasakvirvelia, me sxva var, me qarTveli var da mudam amad davrCebi,

raRacaSi ukeTesi viqnebi maTze, raRacaSi uaresi, magram Cven varT am samyaros nawili da es samyaro, rac ufro farTovdeba, bunebrivia, am Tavis nawilebs kvlav ibrunebs TavisTan. axla Cven vbrundebiT swored iq, sadac unda vyofiliyaviT. ai, es aris am urTierTobebSi mTavari.

- anu Tqven TvliT, rom aranairi saSiSroeba ar aris imisa, rom amerikelebma maT mier gawvrTnili qarTvelebi gamoiyenon TavianT sasargeblod?

- ara, es sasaciloc kia. saerTod, roca es yvelaferi igegmeboda, arcki hqonia es aravis TavSi azrad, arc amerikelebs da arc Cven.

- Tumca, sabWoTa kavSirSi Sesvlis drosac aravin fiqrobda, rom Cveni gadadgmuli nabiji am Sedegebamde migviyvanda...

- ki, SeiZleba maSinac eCvenebodaT aseTi Sedegebi sasacilod, magram sabWoTa kavSiri xom daiSala mainc.

- sabWoTa kavSiris mokavSire respublikas, konstituciis Tanaxmad, SeeZlo am kavSiridan, Tavisi survilisamebr, nebismier dros gamosvla, Tumca, realurad, es kanoni ar moqmedebda.

- rac Seexeba sabWoTa kanonebs, amis Sesaxeb aseTi anekdotic ki arsebobda: rodesac erT-erT pirovnebas stalinisaTvis warudgenia konstituciis muxlebis ganxilva, stalins uTqvams, es kaci giJia, amas hgonia, rom qveyana kanonebiT unda vmarToo. aseve, rodesac niqsoni moskovSi yofila, uTqvams, gavgiJdi, pirvelad vnaxe qveyana, romelic adamianebis mier imarTeba da ara kanonebiTo. ase, rom dasavleTi kardinalurad gansxvavdeba ruseTisagan da Cvenc, principSi, dasavleTis nawili varT, anu aseTi unda viyoT. me mesmis, rom CvenTan Zalian Zlieria Sua saukuneebis kulturis muxti, sadac xelisufleba

personificirebulia, anu xelisufalsa da xelisuflebas Soris gamijvna ar iyo iseTi, rogorc dasavleTSi. Tumca Cven mainc dasavleTis nawili varT. rodesac vambob dasavleTs, amaSi ar vgulisxmob, rom Cveni integrireba dasavleTSi, Cveni kulturis da saxis dakargvas unda niSnavdes, RmerTma dagvifaros. Tumca amisi Zalian arc meSinia imitom, rom, rodesac yvelaze gaxsnili iyo saqarTvelo politikurad da yvelaze metad iyo msoflio movlenebSi CarTuli, swored maSin daiwera `vefxistyaosani~. ase, rom, roca vlaparakob dasavleTSi dabrunebaze, vgulisxmob erT yvelaze martiv WeSmaritebas, rom unda arsebobdes sityvis da sxva politikuri institutebis Tavisufleba; aseve vgulisxmob niqsonis naTqvams, rom qveyana unda imarTebodes kanonebiT da ara adamianebis mier.

- amerika Tu dagvexmareba da dagvidgeba mxarSi, saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi, anu igive ruseTTan problemebis mosagvareblad amerikelebi Cvens gamo awyenineben Tu ara rusebs?

- ratom vTvliT, rom ruseTi Cvenze Zlieria da ar SeiZleba Cvens gamo maTi wyenineba? me maSfoTebs ubralod is, rom Cven Cveni Tavis imedi ara gvaqvs. Tuki ver dagvijerebia, rom raRacis gakeTeba SegviZlia, imas verasodes ver gavakeTebT. ase, rom aq mTavaria neba. me vici erTi ram, rodesac omzea laparaki, sinamdvileSi es omi aris nebis Widili nebasTan. Tu Tavidan ar geqneba neba, apriori, SeiZleba iyoT mowinaaRmdegeze 500-jer meti, magram omi waago. maSasadame, oms neba igebs. aviRoT, Tundac, omis magaliTebi: safrangeTi-alJiri, amerika-vietnami, ruseTi-CeCneTi, yvela am omSi nebam mougo nebas da ara teqnikam - teqnikas.

Tumca aq ar aris laparaki imaze, rom ruseTTan aucileblad unda iomo, ra sisulelea, ratom unda iomo mezobelTan? aq laparakia imaze, rom Cven Cveni

Tavis dacva unda SegveZlos da Cven, Tu apriori amovdivarT iqidan, rom Cveni Tavis dacva ar SegviZlia, maSin nebismier oms wavagebT, atomuri iaraRic rom gvqondes. ai, amaSia saqme.

- da bolos, yvelaferi, Tqveni saubridan gamomdinare rom SevajamoT, aRmoCndeba, rom qarTvelebs gvaqvs Tavdacvis sakmarisi saSualebebi da Cveni warmatebisaTvis mTavari mxolod nebaa.

- diax. agreTve davamatebdi kidev erT, sabediswero faqtors, romelic did rols asrulebs Cvens cxovrebaSi. es ki aris is, rom ori saukunea saxelmwifo ar gvqonia, rac Zalian mZime warmosadgenia. es imas niSnavs, rom ori saukunea politikosebi ar gvyolia, ori saukunea jari ar gvyolia da yovelive es iwvevs swored imas, rom dRes yvela cdilobs, kanons gverdi auaros.

yvela Cvenganma, raRacnairad, Cvens TavSi unda movZebnoT gza da Tu gvinda, rom viyoT saxelmwifo, unda CamovyalibdeT da SevdgeT saxelmwifod. ai, es aris mTavari da swored amis neba unda gvqondes. neba roca iqneba, yvelaferi nel-nela mova. madloba RmerTs, inteleqti da niWi ar gvaklia.

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