pest25a (10:06:02 PM): it's just too hypocritical and stupid for me
pest25a (10:06:06 PM): pass over dinner
pest25a (10:06:08 PM): ok
pest25a (10:06:11 PM): lets see if casey says hi
MagicRoar (10:06:16 PM): why is it hypocritical?
MagicRoar (10:06:19 PM): she never does to me
pest25a (10:06:50 PM): the whole religion thing
MagicRoar (10:07:18 PM): hm
MagicRoar (10:07:21 PM): yeah
MagicRoar (10:07:25 PM): sometimes
pest25a (10:07:35 PM): no
pest25a (10:07:37 PM): all time
MagicRoar (10:07:45 PM): there are ppl who really believe it
pest25a (10:07:50 PM): i know
pest25a (10:07:59 PM): crazies
MagicRoar (10:09:03 PM): what's wrong w/ having beliefs?
pest25a (10:09:40 PM): well
pest25a (10:09:57 PM): when you're beliefs are so incomprhensible and cause so much strife over so long a time
pest25a (10:09:59 PM): somethings wrong
MagicRoar (10:11:23 PM): i'm talking abt the people who only apply it to their own lives
MagicRoar (10:11:52 PM): the ppl who go to church every sunday and really FEEL the spiritual event
MagicRoar (10:11:57 PM): they don't brag abt it
MagicRoar (10:12:05 PM): they don't force it on others
pest25a (10:12:06 PM): nothing wrong with it
pest25a (10:12:13 PM): it's just stupid
MagicRoar (10:12:25 PM): think of it as a form of entertainment
MagicRoar (10:12:28 PM): that's what i do
MagicRoar (10:12:41 PM): the best forms of entertainment are the ones that affect you emotionally
pest25a (10:13:54 PM): entertainment doesn't govern your life
MagicRoar (10:14:38 PM): it can
MagicRoar (10:14:49 PM): where do you get your moral values?
MagicRoar (10:14:54 PM): your parents tell you some
MagicRoar (10:15:02 PM): your experiences others
pest25a (10:15:25 PM): i try to work it out on common sense
pest25a (10:15:29 PM): cause and effect
MagicRoar (10:15:48 PM): but when you see a documentary of the holocaust, or a movie abt soviet russia, doesn't that give you a new perspective that you might base some values on?
pest25a (10:17:27 PM): still look for common sense
MagicRoar (10:18:10 PM): of course
MagicRoar (10:18:26 PM): and religion, properly used, involves rational thought, too
pest25a (10:18:34 PM): how so
MagicRoar (10:19:02 PM): well
MagicRoar (10:19:15 PM): most major religions tell stories
MagicRoar (10:19:29 PM): the bible is full of them
MagicRoar (10:19:52 PM): preachers and such go and interpret these stories and tell their interpretations as the rule
MagicRoar (10:19:55 PM): but in reality
MagicRoar (10:20:02 PM): if you just made your own interpretations
MagicRoar (10:20:46 PM): then you'd be using rational thought
MagicRoar (10:20:52 PM): and you'd come up w/ a moral code
pest25a (10:21:57 PM): you can't do that
pest25a (10:21:59 PM): because
pest25a (10:22:07 PM): you base your reasoning on biblical tales
pest25a (10:22:08 PM): which make no sense
pest25a (10:22:15 PM): and are shit scrawled on goat's skin
pest25a (10:25:35 PM): any reasoning is only as good as it's definitions
pest25a (10:25:51 PM): and religious fabels are hardly good starting points
MagicRoar (10:26:25 PM): we've developed moral codes from greek and roman myths
MagicRoar (10:26:29 PM): is there any difference?
pest25a (10:26:56 PM): no
MagicRoar (10:27:51 PM): :-D
pest25a (10:28:27 PM): morals shoudl be based on common sense and what we witness in the present day
pest25a (10:28:34 PM): along with real accountable support of the past
MagicRoar (10:29:31 PM): but fiction sometimes makes us consider a perspective we would otherwise forget
pest25a (10:29:57 PM): depends on the fictoin
MagicRoar (10:31:14 PM): hey
MagicRoar (10:31:26 PM): i'm not saying the bible is necessarily the fiction you want ot look to
MagicRoar (10:31:35 PM): i'm just saying not to write it off so fast
MagicRoar (10:31:42 PM): there is validity in religion
pest25a (10:32:42 PM): i dont see any