Entry for September 20, 2006
Seeing that I did choose the incorrect way to present a and defend a problem. I have found it necessary to create this blog for public record. The following is what transpired on my cache page "Banshee" on September 20,2006.
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Log Date: 9/20/2006
While my original intent on this cache was to recognize a young cacher
who was enjoying the sport. Her MOTHER has chosen to take every
opportunity that she could to abuse this game! Her MOTHER has made many
people in the caching community irritated and has proceeded to slander and
bad mouth fellow cachers even in other states. I originally was giving
benefit of the doubt about Banshee's cache finds but have been proven
that her mother wants nothing but the numbers. For me to each their
own. I look at my numbers as a personal achievement and know that mine
are earned. What Kashiree doesn't seem to remember is I was there with
her at several of the caches that she has since erroneously logged
Banshee Q's name on. Just in case her Mother doesn't realize that is
LYING!!! This is just one of the reasons the stats on Keenpeople were argued
in the past. They are FALSE! Kashiree wants to argue that her lies
are fact when there has been several accounts of where it can be proven otherwise. Do you not understand that most of the cachers that
have met you realize that you are a liar! Most choose to ignore you
until you attack. I'm done ignoring and when you chose to attack I will
be watching and there to support anyone you want to put your venom on!
When I am brought into public forum and ridiculed I will defend myself!
To little Banshee and Maxwell I still want to give you the benefit of
the doubt. But seeing that there is no way to reach either one of you
without KASHIREE interceding any communication deleting or putting her
spin on things I fear there is no hope for a peaceful resolution. I do
hope you are happy together for many years to come. As to Kashiree's
threats of keeping all communications I do that also. I also have the
communications from several other cachers who have contacted me
wondering what is going on and asking why she was attacking them. Kashiree you wonder why nobody wants to include you in things you have brough
t it all on yourself. How do you expect people to respond? Sit back
and take it or defend themselves. Most will defend themselves. Just
to clarify things further. Also as to the last communication you sent
me "I suggest that you don't ever contact me again." Don't worry you
have made that clear and I won't and since you want to always bring
things to a public forum well here is a small dose of what you have dished
out! You attacked me and I will respond! I have stayed in the shadows
and just observed and watched you repeatedly attack others. Further
more if you want to accuse me of stealing all I can say is pull your head
out. Caches go MIA all the time and I have had several of mine do this
also. Not once have I tried to blame other cachers much less in a
public forum. When you hide caches in public places there are these people
called muggles and many are curious. In fact that is how many have
discovered this sport. I don't have the time or energy to deal with stealing your caches. I have already raised 2 two year olds and I
don't find that any excuse for the behavior you are demonstrating. I
never was your buddy back in school and you have proven to me that I had
good judgment even back then.
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Log Date: 9/20/2006
Following is the email I recieved regarding my previous note. This is
typical of the threats that Kashiree is sending cachers when they don't
agree with her. Threatening to have a talk with the reviewer. When
you make threats that is not solving a problem or even discussing it. As
to faking being a friend in highschool. I only knew of your exsistance
not you. There were over 400 in our graduating class not to mention
the students in the other grades in our school. As to this previous
year. I did make an attempt to be a friend but shortly after your
involvment in the caching community you started making problems with people that I had already considered and still consider friends. Those are the
people that I will continue to support. When I notice trouble I have a
tendancy to back away and that is what happened until the threats and
accusations came in my face in my home to my family. You as a mother
and wife can hopfully appreciate that. Once again I wish you the
best in your move and life. I more than likely will not be attending
the reunion but that honestly doesn't have anything to do with you. As
to renaming my cache. I chose this location about Banshee she is an
adorable child and I still see it fitting given the reasoning I placed
this cache. When I placed it I mentioned on the cache page that I had
been considering it for awhile. I don't make it a practice of making
knee jerk reactions to situations and at this time I still see it a
fitting tribute. I didn't use her real name and her real identity to protect
her. As to archiving a cache. When I place a cache I do my best to
make sure that it is one that will have a durability factor. Although
there are things that come along and change this. This cache still has
that durability factor and I plan on leaving it in place.
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Kim then PLEASE RENAME HER CACHE OR BETTER YET ARCHIEVE IT. THANKS FOR
FAKING BEING A FRIEND IN HIGHSCHOOL, SHOWS HOW YOU CAN BE TOO. IF YOU
DO NOT DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS CACHE I WILL HAVE A TALK WITH RJ ABOUT
IT
AND SEE WHAT HE CAN DO FOR WHAT YOU HAVE SAID.
GOOD BYE FOREVER
BRANDI
I WON'T WORRY ABOUT SEEING YOU AT THE 20 YEAR AS FAR AS YOUR HUSBAND
HAS SAID.
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This was Brandy's response and my response to her.
Then RJ posted while I was typing my next response. I had hit the send button before I saw his response. So mypost follows his and then I followed it with then email to him.
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Log Date: 9/20/2006
I'm only going to comment on this once and then this whole issue is
going to go away, right?
1. Cache pages are for recording experiences at THAT cache. They are
not your personal forum for airing your grievances against each other.
The notes that have been placed on this page are very inappropriate. My
suggestion is that you remove them immediately.
2. I am your local cache reviewer. I am [b]not[/b] your relationship
counselor! I suggest you [b]all[/b] either learn to get along or take up
some activity where you don't have to interact with other people.
Needlepoint might be nice.
Please remove your note and if you're really nice I'll bring some
needlepoint kits for you to Fall Fest. If not, you're getting rocks.
That's it. I don't want to hear [b]any more[/b] about it! Don't make
me come back here! [:(!]
RJ
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My post
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I am truly sorry to have taken this to a cache page. Although I refuse to be bullied by someone whom I know beyond a shadow of a doubt is a liar. Kashiree has already taken her claims to the net via her profile page and notes and logs on other caches. I just refuse to be bullied! I was told quote from an email on 09/19/06 (quote)
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Kim,
I suggest you and your husband NO LONGER CONTACT ME! ALSO PLEASE DO
NOT GO AFTER ANYMORE OF MY CACHES.
Kashiree Q.
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I was respecting her request of not contacting her. Once again she already has taken this to the net and I will NOT be blamed for her troubles. She has brought them on herself. So when this appeared on her profile page.
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UPDATE AS OF 9-19-06 GOT A PHONE CALL FROM A TRUSTY CACHER SAYING HE COULD NOT FIND 4 CACHES OWNED BY THE 3 Q's THAT HAD NOT EVEN BEEN OUT FOR 10 DAYS CACHES HAVE BEEN STOLEN. I HAVE AN IDEA WHOM IS DOING THIS!!!! I HAD A REPORT ON ANOTHER ONE POSSIBLE STOLEN TODAY. DO I GO OUT AND STEAL YOUR CACHES HELL NO, I DON'T, THEN WHY THE HELL ARE YOU OR YOU GUYS OR GIRLS GOING OUT AND DOING THIS TO ME? I AM ALREADY HAVING A HARD ENOUGH TIME RAISING A 2 YEAR OLD AT THIS TIME AND NOW TO COME TO FIND OUT THERE ARE A FEW 2 YEAR OLDS AT LEAST THAT IS WHAT YOU OR YOU ALL ARE ACTING LIKE. IF YOU WILL REPLACE MY CACHES AS YOU FOUND THEM THERE WILL BE NO QUESTIONS ASKED IF NOT THEN THIS MEANS I AM GOING ON THE WAR PATH, JUST REMEMBER I AM GERMAN AND WE HAVE VERY SHORT FUSES AND MINE IS GETTING VERY SHORT AT THIS TIME!!!! ALSO WE HAVE GOTTEN OUR FINAL ORDERS TO FLORIDA AND SHOULD BE LEAVING OKC BEFORE JAN. 8TH OF 2007. HOPE YOU GUYS WON'T MISS US SINCE ALL THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE I GOT MARRIED TO MY HUSBAND AND GAVE MY 26 1/2 YEAR OLD HER OWN ACCOUNTS ON HER AND KEENPEOPLE. IF DOGS CAN HAVE THEIR OWN PROFILES WHY CAN'T MY SWEET DAUGHTER HAVE ONE???? AS FAR AS KIM AND TODD GO STAY OUT OF MY LIFE. I THOUGHT YOU WHERE MY FRIENDS BUT YOU HAVE SHOWN ME DIFFRENT CAN'T BELIEVE I EVEN CONSIDERED YOU FRIENDS BACK IN THE DAYS!!!! TO RON I AM SORRY AND THAT IS ALL I CAN SAY. PALADIN FOESADA IS ALL I CAN SAY TO YOU. ICARRI SAME FOR YOU. TO THOSE WHO LEFT US OUT EXCEPT GeoTxBdgr THIS LAST WEEKEND THANKS FOR NOTHING, WE WILL NOT BE COMING TO ANYMORE DINNERS WITH YOUR GROUP. AS YOU CAN TELL I AM VERY UPSET AT ALOT OF PEOPLE, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM A GERMAN, IRISH, DUTCH, WELSH AND A FEW OTHER BLOOD LINES THAT RUN IN ME. I DO NOT FORGIVE THAT EASILY FOR THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE TO ME AND MY FAMILY. IF YOU WISH TO EXPRESS YOUR FEELINGS FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME IF YOU HAVE THE GUTS!!!! OR BETTER YET WHAT SPEARFOX SAID IN ONE OF HIS HATE MAILS COME SEE ME FACE TO FACE IF YOU HAVE THE GUTS!!!! WHAT YOU ALL DO NOT RELIZE IS I KEEP ALL EMAILS AND FINDS IN FOLDERS SO I HAVE PROOF OF EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN SAID TO ME OR ABOUT ME, AND THAT DOES INCLUDED ALL THE I.M.'s RON AND I SENT EACH OTHER BEFORE HE STARTED DISLIKING ME. SO BRING IT ON THOSE WHO DISLIKE MY FAMILY!!!!!!!! AND THEIR ARE NO THREATS IN THIS LETTER SO DON'T EVEN START ON THAT. THE REASONS WE STOPPED GOING TO THE COG MEETINGS THEY WHERE ALL ABOUT THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN NOTHING EVER CHANGES NOTHING AGAINST CACHE OWNER. TRIED TO GOING TO ONE OF THE OLD TAG MEETINGS AND COULD NOT EVEN GET A WORD IN EDGE WISE NOT VERY ORGANIZED TOO MANY PEOPLE TALKING AT ONCE. AT LEAST WE DID FIND GAGA THAT WELCOMED US WITH OPEN ARMS AND THAT INCLUDES MY WONDERFUL 2 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER MINI~ UPDATE 8-31-06 IF YOU HAVE NOT NOTICED I HAVE BROUGHT BACK UP ALMOST ALL MY CACHES!! NO ONE IS GONNA CHASE ME AWAY FROM THE GAME I LOVE AND MY FAMILY LOVES!!!! I AM STILL WORKING ON GETTING THE REST OF THEM BACK UP!!!!
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She has taken to blaming all the Oklahoma cachers for her misgivings. I for one am sick of being blamed for her problems. She chose to mention my husband and myself personally and I just want to be able to defend myself. While I am at it I will defend my other Oklahoma cachers. We have a good group here that try to look out for each other and enjoy this sport. I also do not want to see her bulling another cacher. (Example)
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Jake,
I know you do don't know who I am unless one of your buddies has told
you about me and my family.
I hate to say this but I had already hid a cache there when I saw the
article in the paper. I have a witness to prove that I had one hid there
1st. I do not mean sound like a bit**, but I think it is only fair for
me to have this cache I even have pictures to prove when I went out to
hide this one with the dates on it.
I hid a magnetic key holder black in color two magnets on the top of
the tinhorn, on the North end. How can we solve this problem being I hid
the cache their first?
I am sure RJ will say first come first serve first published. But if
you are a real man you would give this cache to me.
I have more information that I can add to this story of Pikey's
crossing than you have on your page. The reason has not been approved is
because I was search on the net for more information on this nameless
bridge. Some one has already signed the cache and that will tell you the
witness who we mentioned earlier.
Please think ABOUT this and get
back with me.
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This was a note she posted and then shortly deleted off of a new cache. It is not a cachers responsibility to answer to her. Kashiree doesn't seem to understand that her words are threatening. Webster's definitions
(see next note)
(cont.)
Main Entry: 1bul·ly
Pronunciation: 'bu-lE, 'b&-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural bullies
Etymology: probably from Middle Dutch boele lover; akin to Middle Low German bOle lover, Middle High German buole
1 archaic a : SWEETHEART b : a fine chap
2 a : a blustering browbeating person; especially : one habitually cruel to others who are weaker b : PIMP
3 : a hired ruffian
Main Entry: 1slan·der
Pronunciation: 'slan-d&r
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): slan·dered; slan·der·ing /-d(&-)ri[ng]/
: to utter slander against : DEFAME
synonym see MALIGN
- slan·der·er /-d&r-&r/ noun
Main Entry: de·fame
Pronunciation: di-'fAm, dE-
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): de·famed; de·fam·ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French & Medieval Latin; Anglo-French deffamer, diffamer, from Medieval Latin defamare, alteration of Latin diffamare, from dis- + fama reputation, fame
1 archaic : DISGRACE
2 : to harm the reputation of by libel or slander
3 archaic : ACCUSE
synonym see MALIGN
- de·fam·er noun
She has repeatedly tried the to bully through whatever medium she could. With this all being said if all she wants is for me to change the cache page I will after she publicly appoligizes to me and my husband. She has chosen to make this a public battle. That is why I expect a public appology. It would be nice to see her appologize to the other Oklahoma cachers but I don't expect that.
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This was my email I sent to RJ.
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I had already hit send button. Then I saw your request. I was hoping
you could see some of the stunts she has pulled. She is continually
posting things on her profile slamming local cachers myself included.
She puts things as notes and logs on other caches and then deletes them
after the damage has been done. I just do not want to be bullied by
her. She has called me a thief and put into question my respectability.
No I don't want this to go to groundspeak. I don't know how to reach
her without an email and this was the only way I new she would see that
she wasn't pulling the wool over anyone's eyes. By the way I am
dropping this if it matters I just don't want to be tanted by her lies any
more. What I have said about other cachers contacting me wanting to know
what the deal is is true. If you want I can send you the names but I
would rather not include them in a confrontation that she started. I
just want to stand up for myself and my family. I don't and won't ma
ke it a habit to slam people in my profile like she has done
repeatedly. I like to think I'm better than that. I think you have seen enough
of me that I do not go out searching for a fight. I enjoy this sport
and the fellow cachers and friends that I have made and this does
include you. That is why when I am attacked and I see that others have been
assaulted I wanted to finally respond. I have held my tongue for
atleast 6 months but the continual berraiding that she has done has worn me
thin. Once again sorry you were dragged into this but she has
threatened enough of the other cachers enough times that I figured I would
rather it be me instead of them. I hope that my previous actions speak
loud enough for themselves to prove that I am of good character and have
the respect of my fellow cachers. Thank you for your time and you can
consider this dropped.
Mommyfried