1.

4/3/2008 2:40:00 AM

I like the idea of more tees. Those of us who are not long ball hitters appreciate the tees for short hitters. It also helps move play along for those who cannot hit a long ball. I also like the idea of having the course look more natural to fit in with how our cummunity looks and the addtion of oak trees will accomplish that look. The money part is going to be difficult as this golf course has always been a bargain and it will be a challenge for some to give up that bargain. An annual surcharge and a small round surcharge may be a possible answer to this problem. Since the whole community receives some property value for this course being here, they should also have a surcharge to fund these improvements. It will increase their property values as well if this course is a draw for future residents. We all contribute to the maintenance of the lake and the golf course should be included in that contribution although not as much as for the lake.

2.

4/3/2008 3:13:00 PM

The master plan is too big. The major priorities & expenditure should be around drainage and greens. All of the expense for the aesthetic values and forward tee boxes, removing and adding numerous bunkers is a waste of money. The dollars should be spent on maintenance, not on full scale new big projects. If the course is maintained at a high level and can be played year around undr good conditions (i.e. - drainage) then the vast majority of golfers will want to play. We would all like "big-new-improved" but anything that requires surcharges should be resisted.

3.

4/3/2008 3:50:00 PM

Thanks for your time and effort.

4.

4/3/2008 4:07:00 PM

Think the red tees for women need to be addressed in the plan...the course plays overly long for ladies in my view. also, in terms of personally donating money to the project, need to understand all of the economics of it before I can make a final decision. well done to whomever put this together...very well done.

5.

4/3/2008 4:27:00 PM

I could not get a number in the donation box ... 3 questions back

6.

4/3/2008 4:59:00 PM

Good job! My concern is that golf fees stay low at LWW. The course quality is acceptable, but great for the price. If prices went up too much, I'd just play Nevada Country Club instead. You need to compare requested changes to costs and leave off anything below a certain cost / benefit level. I also think the tiered rate plan will backfire. Once someone like me hits the low tier max, I'll just play somewhere else. Everyone I've talked too said the same thing.

7.

4/3/2008 5:39:00 PM

My first priority is to reduce or eliminate the drainage problems on the course. Having a green flag but then putting half the holes off limits for carts is not desirable. This would also impact mowing. Now the fairways and rough can't even be mowed as often as needed because of the poor drainage. Getting properly defined teeing areas is my second priority. We should be able to vastly improve the teeing areas without incurring large costs. Most of the suggested changes to the golf master plan are what I would classify as "nice to have" but are not critical. If we can accomplish some of these without spending a lot of money or impacting play then do it. But spending millions of dollars on "nice to haves" is not something I support.

8.

4/3/2008 6:15:00 PM

The golf course is an asset to the entire community (as is the lake). We all pay to keep the lake healthy and updated. All households also benefit in their property values from the health and upkeep, perceived value and popularity of the golf course. We need to invest in the golf course as we have done for the lake and other amenities throughout Lake Wildwood for this reason and this should be a shared, community-wide investment, just like the lake has been. I do not use the lake, but I am pleased that we as a community invest in the lake. I would expect the same should be for the golf course.

9.

4/3/2008 6:20:00 PM

These are not good economic times to add to either golf fees or association fees. Folks who have been retired on a fixed income are being hard hit in the pocketbook already. The cost of petroleum and the goods that are moved by petroleum using vehicles are skyrocketing. Last year's increase in the golf fee plus the $40% increase in unlimited golf for this year has me reeling.

10.

4/3/2008 7:05:00 PM

This may be beating a dead horse, but since all home owners benifit from having a golf course, then all should pay. My realtor friends tell me that having a golf course adds $100,000 in equity to a Lake Wildwood home.....

11.

4/3/2008 7:22:00 PM

The survey was very informative and well planned. Let's have more of them

12.

4/3/2008 7:27:00 PM

I think the golf committee has done an excellent job with this survey. I would like another survey which would deal with ranking a priority for the projects in the master plan. Do you purpose that the menbership get a chance to vote on the project priority or ranking or does the golf committee decide. I know Ken decides about projects he can complete but what about ones he cant get done with current staff? Good Job guys. Where do we go from here? If i can be of any help please call me.

13.

4/3/2008 7:28:00 PM

Let's keep the changes simple. LWW Golf is a wonderful facility. We are not the Olympic Club or Silverado. We have a course that is challenging and beautiful, geared to folks who live here, many on fixed incomes. If I want to be around just native species I'll join the Sierra Club. Cutting down the tree behind 17 and removing the 150 markers was a travesty.

14.

4/3/2008 7:39:00 PM

Leadership by opinion poll is unwise. We developed a Master Plan to help move foward by implementing projects identified by a golf course architect to enhance, preserve and rennovate our course. We are now moving away from doing what an expert advises is best and moving back to where we were, using inexperience and unknowledgable golfers to develop projects they thought were best. Trying to get agreement on what to do was impossible before our Master plan and was one of the primary reasons for developing a Master Plan; it will again be impossible after this survey. We are spinning our wheels!! This golf course does not belong to the just us golfers, it belongs to the association, every lot owner in LWW, and as such the association should implement the plan they paid $20,000 to have created without further debate. If we are going to override expert advise with what current golfers think is best, we may as well throw the Master Plan in the trash! We are well on our way back to business as usual, believing that we are qualified and have the expertise to rennovate our golf course to attract new home buyers and therefore maintain our property values. This survey is the beginning of the undoing of our Master Plan.

15.

4/3/2008 8:20:00 PM

I have played over 150 different courses and believe we have a beautiful and unique golf course as it is. With a few affordable and necessary changes if would be in the outstanding category. There seems to be a small group of people pushing to make things more difficult on the course along with making it more expensive for many people. To ask fixed income folks to continue to pay more every year, as has been the case over my last 9 years here is not right for any reason, especially for many "unique,defining,and esthetic" changes. Functionality, safety, maintenance and affordability should be the goals of the golf community. There needs to be more mentioning of the finance plan so that everyone has a chance to know what he or she is facing in costs. I suggest completing what is necessary according to the survey results and only if accurate upfront costs are agreed upon and approved by the majority of people involved. To complete this entire plan would drive costs so high that many may choose to eliminate or reduce their play.

16.

4/3/2008 8:38:00 PM

I would like to express my appreciation to everyone involved in creating this survey.I know it was a lot of work.....Thank you

17.

4/3/2008 9:33:00 PM

I really feel the golf course we have now is in very good shape considering how much play it receives. Most courses I have been familiar with are shut down one day a week for maintenance purposes, this one is not and is in good condition. I feel that the Golf Course Master Plan is rather overwhelming and we need to err on the side of doing less rather than too much at one time. It is an amenity that enhances every piece of property in LWW and the cost of major changes should be voted upon and shared by every association member.

18.

4/3/2008 9:51:00 PM

I do think that the 9-hole clubs should be willing to use forward tees for club play it we are to spend the money to install them. Speed of play is such an issue and this would help some. Also, I would love to see 4-somes rather than 5-somes especially for women playing together. I have experienced a significant amount of harrassment for slow play, especially when men follow women. In these instances, our group has not been too slow, we have been waiting for people ahead. But, if those of us who are recreational golfers would play in 4-somes and play from forward tees, it might help. I think we have an incredible course with incredible challenges going into the future with the need for updating and reduced play. I think the reduced amount of play on our course is a positive thing, less wear and tear. I think those who are excellent golfers by LWW standards need to be more considerate of those of us who pay the same but don't play as well. Improve playability and attitudes so we can all enjoy being outside doing our best to hit the ball where it is supposed to go! I also think that we need to understand that the relatively free round of golf in LWW is over and that those who play more should pay more!

19.

4/3/2008 10:43:00 PM

I do not use your facility as much as I should-I think it is a Super golf facility the way it stands & was a large factor in my purchase of property there. Thanx for your efforts

20.

4/3/2008 11:07:00 PM

We moved to Lake Wildwood 1 1/2 years ago and are extremely happy with our decision to do so. In years past, we have spent much time at Pine Mountain Lake, another Boise Cascade development from the 70's. Today, I think the difference in the two developments is striking. Lake Wildwood residents have done a wonderful job of keeping the complex looking attractive and up to date by reinvesting in their homes through remodeling or rebuilding. To me this shows that, to a large extent, we are a community willing and able to spend money in order to maintain and improve the quality of life we enjoy here. It is time for us to reinvest in the most important asset of Lake Wildwood, the golf course (some may argue it is second after the lake). I also believe it is time to reinvest in other assets, such as the clubhouse, as well. Dan Heibel

21.

4/3/2008 11:25:00 PM

I would like to see a lovely waterfall built on a hole that would be considered a signature hole. Currently, hole 12 is our signature hole, but that could be changed. Thank you for taking the time to issue this survey and solicit feedback.

22.

4/3/2008 11:33:00 PM

I would like to see 4 foot high stakes placed at 150 yards from the middle of the greens. That would serve as an aiming point from the tees, as well a 150 yard marker replacing the Italian Cyprus. On the par five's, the two stakes would be 250 yards and 150 yards from the middle of the greens. It would speed up play, especially when the red flag is up and you are not allowed to go off the cart path.

23.

4/4/2008 12:22:00 AM

I am not in favor of paying a surcharge each time I play, but I could not provide an answer in this manner. I would prefer that a surcharge be added to the yearly fees or the fees increased, thus paying it all at once. This would also make the money available sooner, rather than over a year's time.

24.

4/4/2008 2:53:00 AM

I see this as a not needed project. I hate to say no on everything, but I just can't see spending money like there is no end to it! I see no price list on any of the items. Would you buy a car without knowing how much it costs? Would you hire a contractor to work on your house without knowing cost figures. I don't think so. So why the master plan with all the items listed and no price tag? Maybe it's because you don't want hear everyone moan at once. Why do folks want to overhaul a good thing?

25.

4/4/2008 2:13:00 PM

Many of us still feel that the golf course is LWW's most valuable asset as regards our property values and at the present time every lot owner only pays #35 per year toward the golf course as compared with $65 for the lake and another $60 for the park system. It seems like the entire community should be paying at least another $30 per year to maintain this asset! The community pays $250,000 up front to replace the marina docks that benefit 88 people, why do we have to accumulate $250,000 before we can do anything to the golf course? If in fact the entire community is paying to resurface the tennis courts, then we would like some resurfacing done on the golf course!

26.

4/4/2008 2:56:00 PM

Thanks for the care and due dilligence related to Master Plan.

27.

4/4/2008 5:01:00 PM

I strongly believe that the Association as a whole should pay for capital improvements to the Golf Course through a dues increase if necessary. The golf course, clubhouse, parks, lake, tennis courts, pool, & security are all an integral part of the LW community and thus should be subsidized by all property owners regardless of their use. Some activities such as golf, tennis, pool and the clubhouse can easily charge for their use. That charge should only be for maintenance (staff & mowing, cleaning, etc.) ALL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR ALL LW FACILITIES SHOULD BE FUNDED BY ALL PROPERTY OWNERS.

28.

4/4/2008 6:54:00 PM

I would like to see a complete plan to redo the course not just bits and pieces. The golf course is a great design that is tired and needs updating. I would like to see a proposal to do each nine at a time and raise the funds through the facilities fund to accomplish this goal. Additional funding could be raised through, surcharges, donations and redirection of current golf funds. In addition, I would like to see additional merchandise available in the pro shop. Thanks for putting the survey together and gain the opinions of all of the golfers in Lake Wildwood. We all want a better place to play, raise property values and encourage others such as guests to want to play at Lake Wildwood.

29.

4/4/2008 11:35:00 PM

Just fix the back tees and plant trees to seperate the range from hole #2.

30.

4/5/2008 3:02:00 PM

On hole 14 raise the turf the final 10 yards or so before the creek and have longer grass to keep balls that roll over the path from rolling into the creek

31.

4/6/2008 12:50:00 AM

I am not apposed to contributions but feel it inappropriate to indicate an amount. I believe funds can be raised through fund raising activities such as golf tournaments, dinners, potlucks, etc. These amounts can be added to the Master Plan Fund for accumulation for future projects.

32.

4/6/2008 2:46:00 AM

This is a huge undertaking which won't be completed for many years. We should focus first on playability improvements (e.g., new topsoil where needed, properly maintained bunkers without abrupt "cliffs" on the green sides, forward tees, replace asphalt cart paths) that are consistent with the master plan.

33.

4/6/2008 3:27:00 AM

The Golf Master Plan is only a plan, so someone doesn't take advantage of their position-in-charge to alter the golf course to suit their particular fancy. This plan is only a guide, so when funds are available, this is the way it should be accomplished, so when it is all completed then there is a similar look and a flowing nature to the overall course. We have a nice golf course. It has short holes, long holes, uphill shots, down- hill shots, doglegs (both left and right), difficult greens (not easy), so all we really need is to maintain the course in as close to the same condition 365 days each year. It is not presently being done. It can be done without spend- ing the Four (4) Million pricetag hung on the Golf Master Plan.

34.

4/6/2008 5:13:00 AM

As you can tell from my responses, I am strongly in favor of the Master Plan. I firmly believe that the architect's plan is spot on for each of the holes on our golf course and if adopted, this will be the finest golf course in Norcal.

35.

4/6/2008 7:35:00 AM

The key issue for any of the items in the GC Master plan is going to be "Money". Given the age, incomes, and goals of the members of lake wildwood, I can not see any percentage of the population voting to pay for the majority of the items in the plan. Most of the items they express to change are not things the golfers feel is needed for the golf course. An example is all the work necessary to change, move around, add, or delete bunkers. WE just need the ones we have to be fixed, maintained with good sand, so they play consistantly. We need all the Tee boxes fixed for the Black Tees and those should be name, "Gold Tees" for our Very Senior Citizens. We need all the weeds removed from all Tee boxes, and thatched and reseeded and cut like good tee boxes are on other golf cources. We need the fairways fixed that have sections of missing grass or wholes with no grass at all. We need consistant rough on the sides of the fairway and it should be cut to a consistant height like other golf courses. We need our practice area for chipping changed to match the playing areas of the golf course. The current chipping area has a green and the first cut around that green is 3 to 4 feet wide. This is not the same as any hole we have on the course. Therefore, we can't practice on the chipping green the way we need to play on the course. The Rough and the first cut grass should be identical to all the greens on the golf course. The area with the artificial grass and chipping area is a terrible design and is built all wrong. It is a waste and should be take out. It does not get any use from the majority of playing golfers. Athe artificial turf area is too elevated from the landing area and the landing area is too close and too short. It is a desing joke. Once a year I go to Palm Desert and play on a very simple golf course. They have a practice area that is not larger than ours but is 10x better. I will be happy to provide digital pictures and drawings to show you how easy it would be to dumplicate such an area, at minimal cost. One item that has not been mentioned in any of the Master plan is the need for improvement for player safety. Several people have been hurt on the golf course because of excessive large wholes. Some of these are drainage holes with inadequate covers, some are deep valve cover boxes, and some are just sink holes from excessive water drainage. All of these need to be fixed before another person has to brake an ancle or a leg or fall and break a hip. I am available to discuss any of my comments or suggestions at anytime.

36.

4/6/2008 7:25:00 PM

1. I believe that the LWW golf course is an incredibly important community amenity. I appreciate the efforts of all of those who are working to upgrade this great facility. 2. In addition to the physical amenity, golf "manners" are important. I want to take this opportunity to share two recent experiences. A few months ago, I started my round on the back 9. As I finished #18, a couple ahead of me teed off starting their round on #1. Not only had they interrupted my round, they proceeded to practice with multiple balls, knowing I was waiting on the tee. There were holes open in front of them. After waiting over 20 minutes for them to clear #2 fairway, I quit and walked to my car in the lower lot. Yesterday, as I finished #9, two guys inserted themselves between the twosome in front of me, and teed off on #10. The saw me finishing with a twosome on #9, right behind the group in front of me. On the tee box @ #11, I called the proshop and reported them. They continued playing multiple balls, and yet no marshall or security showed up. Finally after finishing #14, I quit and walked to the parking lot. I realize that these are isolated incidents, however, all policing efforts are appreciated.

37.

4/6/2008 6:49:00 PM

I had trouble with the funding questions, because I firmly believe that improvements and replacements to the golf course should be paid by all Association members, just as all members pay for improvements and replacements at the swimming pool and the lake. If the early writers of our By-Laws didn't think ahead to the time when greens, etc. needed to be replaced, then our laws should be changed. Thank you to the committee who put together this survey. It is very thorough and, I think, represents a lot of time and effort.

38.

4/6/2008 11:08:00 PM

A better golf course would be a wonderful thing, but we must remember we are not a country club with prohibitive fees. All of the recommendations in the master plan would be great if they could be implemented. But we need to be realistic about what can be changed and how those changes are financed. I look forward to enjoying the benefit of many of these improvements.

39.

4/6/2008 11:18:00 PM

As far as donating for improvements, it would depend on what they improvements were going to be. Obviously I'm more interested in those that would affect me and not so much in those that don't. The replacement of all greens and building the forward tees are the most important as far as I'm concerned, and I would be willing to donate $1,000 towards those projects.

40.

4/6/2008 11:19:00 PM

The golf course must be supported by all members of the Wildwood community. All benefit from its presence. All should pay a portion of the maintenance above already established - As in we all pay for the lake. Even $50 per year from all residents would stablize maintenance fees.

41.

4/6/2008 11:40:00 PM

although i've only experienced the course on an extremely limited basis over the years i believe it is one of the most attractive courses i've played. being relatively new to the game (<5yrs) and only having limited exposure to other courses from where i moved from (Hawaii), this course is wonderful. the proposed improvements will only enhance the experience for all skill levels of golfers in this great community. thank you

42.

4/7/2008 1:16:00 AM

It is encouraging to see the effort put forth in trying to maintain,improve, and update our community which is essential to it's survival. Thank all those that have put forht this effort.

43.

4/7/2008 3:52:00 AM

This master plan is a giant bondogle waste of money. we are a private course with an average age of close to 70 per player. leave the course alone or admit you are tring to update the course at the members expense to bring in outside play. you already are increasing the cost play, cart fees etc. to the point yearly membership is droping off.

44.

4/8/2008 4:04:00 AM

#44. Under the Golf Master Plan Fund requirements, only 10% of golf's previous years operations can be raised thru surcharges; therefore, at roughly $1.1 Million operating costs and assuming 50,000 rounds per year, only $2-3 max per round surcharge can be assessed. To go any higher with a "surcharge" added to annual golf fees would cause a golf surplus over spending needs, and would be seriously questioned by Finance/Audit Cmttee. and our independent Audit firm since yearly budget is designed to only cover spending needs, not to purposely "overrun" budget so that monies could be deposited in Golf Master Plan Fund (see Finance Rule 4-10.56) Regardless of how this survey comes out(e.g., some may say golf MP not needed because course is in good shape; or, it's not needed since entire community is not paying, most projects have to be paid for by golfers),some needed projects should get done like the cart paths on 13 and 14, and the correction of long standing drainage problems on the fairways. These need to be done to keep maintenance costs in check. However, at some point down the road, major work will need to be done on the course, and Golf Master Plan will exist to guide future projects.

45.

4/8/2008 5:30:00 AM

I would like to see one long par 3, maybe 190 to 200 yards.

46.

4/8/2008 6:17:00 PM

We need this plan. keep it flexible and updated as needed.

47.

4/9/2008 4:19:00 PM

Raise yearly golf fees.

48.

4/9/2008 4:34:00 PM

We all pay for the lake. It should be [the same] for the golf course.

49.

4/9/2008 4:58:00 PM

Greens replacement should not come out of golf maintenance.

50.

4/9/2008 6:09:00 PM

Have a meeting with some of the oldtimers in Lake Wildwood to find out how we got to present situation.

51.

4/9/2008 6:26:00 PM

[This comment was made at question #44] One time special assessment from the entire Wildwood community. The golf course is one of Wildwood's biggest assets that adds value to all homes in the development. Everyone should share in supporting this asset, just like everyone supports maintaining the beauty of the lake - not just the homeowners who live on the lake.

52.

4/9/2008 8:06:00 PM

It seems to me that these changes will require lots of "bucks" It is hard to answer these questions without knowing the amount of money all the changes entail. I have been here 20 years and lots of the changes have been discussed before. I question whether the improvements are worth the investment.

53.

4/10/2008 12:09:00 AM

I really enjoy playing on our course. It is beautiful just the way it is. I would very much like to see the condition of the fairways improved- no more holes, clumps of grass or bare spots- they all affect play. Lake wildwood is not mean't to be a premier course, which it appears the "architect" is aiming for. The majority of the players are more to the average ability and not expecting PGA effects.Keep the cost reasonable and the conditions the number one priority, please.

54.

4/10/2008 3:20:00 PM

This is an excellent survey and I applaud those of you who put it together. There are other issues with the financial structure of golf that are not addressed here. Our present financial structure tends to address the issue of who pays for golf in rather defined pockets. In reality, the association pays for all the maintenance of the golf course and golfers are charged a fee to help offset those charges. If we thought of it in those terms, it might help to diffuse this golfer/member disconnect. The present fee stucture is biased heavily to the high play golfer. The $10 per round target charge is about half of the true cost per round to maintain the course. This is something that I believe most golfers do not appreciate or they would not complain so much about the yearly fees.

55.

4/10/2008 7:16:00 PM

I do not believe any golfer should have to pay a surcharge in addition to their golf membership fee. The fee was increased already. I do feel with the new program there should have been a $500 or less level for those that realized last year that they can not (or choose not to) golf as much. On cloudy, slightly chilly, etc. days I know I won't use my points to golf. And it doesn't take a genius to figure out that on those "ideal" days the course will be extremly crowded. Why don't we charge for outside tournaments like all the other courses in the area do? If we brought in 1 outside tournament a month we could build a "Master Plan" fund. At one of the board meetings a past member (I think he was the past president) of a well known outside club stated that he knows that particular club would NOT object to paying a fee! I'm sure our attorney or tax people can create a way to protect the Assoc. since other private clubs have found a way to do it.

56.

4/10/2008 7:49:00 PM

My only concern is making the course too hard for the average golfer. Less than half of the annual golfers have a handicap of less than 20 or ecen 25. I don't want to make the course so difficult that the rest of us can't enjoy it. e.g., the fairways have been moved in over the last few years, etc. Thank you for all your work on this survey.

57.

4/10/2008 8:48:00 PM

Golf at Lake Wildwood is so extremely cheap compared to other courses. $5 per round is not a problem. With CI and RR funds, you should be very prudent and spend only what is necessary (Replace failing features and infrastructure of course) to keep or improve the course's value. I don't think much should be spent on beautification. It's already beautiful. Adding distance or more challenging features I don't believe would benefit most of the golfers that I see on a daily basis. I heard bunkers were considered to be added to the driving range there is no value to the course or wanted by most golfers. Ultimately, a flat range is preferable to get more accurate distance judgement. Not that we should change the range.

58.

4/10/2008 8:56:00 PM

I think this golf course, as it exists, is one of the most interesting layouts that I have played. Many outside golfers have stated the same. So, why change it?

59.

4/11/2008 7:32:00 PM

Questions 46 and 47 will not allow a check by the box market "other". It requires an amount or it will not allow you to continue. Accordingly, the answers for these online questions #46 & #47 will not be accurate.

60.

4/11/2008 10:54:00 PM

Property values are influenced by the golf course condition, just as they are by the lake condition. If we (not lake users) can be assessed for lake improvement projects, why not assess all owners for golf course improvement projects?

61.

4/11/2008 11:08:00 PM

This is an amenity for Lake Wildwood and should be treated the same as the lake - #1 amenity. Without the golf course, we have nothing!! Maybe the golfing community should take over operation of golf course as a private course. Our driving range is a disgrace! Needs to tee replacements - rubber pads are slippery and dangerous. Who's responsible, pro or golf course? At present time, fairways in best condition; more roll and not as wet. Keep them this way. Rough is too high. Make golf course more user friendly - approaches to green wider and shorter.

62.

4/11/2008 11:21:00 PM

Assessment fees go up; 2 tier golf fees go up; non-member fees increase. When you put $ into a fund, somebody will push to spend it now. Maybe if you don't spend so freely on quipment maintenance you can develop a fund for future needs.

63.

4/11/2008 11:33:00 PM

1. Dan Pray should be elected to Lake Wildwood's Board of Directors. 2. The Men's golf Club should pay for an attorney's opinion as to what is a capital improvement paid for by the Lake Wildwood Association versus what is maintenance. 3. Local employees should do all work possible, such as building forward tees. 4. Leave the course as is. If it deteriorates enough, maybe the LWW BOD will reconsider that the course is one of our main atrtributes and that all Association members should pay for the course.

64.

4/11/2008 11:39:00 PM

Very well done - I commend those people responsible. Nothing happens until someone makes it happen, so keep up the momentum and good luck!

65.

4/12/2008 4:38:00 PM

My only comment is to suggest adding some redwood trees on the course in addition to the addition of oaks.

66.

4/13/2008 3:48:00 AM

a very well developed survey. i did not study the master plan and tried to form my answers based on my past experience at other courses and the past two years playing here. I am very well pleased with the astetics of the course and feel that some of the things mentioned about hedgerows was more for the general pubil than the golfers, we like to show off.

67.

4/13/2008 3:15:00 PM

There were no questions about alternate funding methods such as outside tournaments. I believe there are other ways to raise funds that should be explored.

68.

4/13/2008 4:16:00 PM

The adding of trees should be studied. Other non native varieties may be better than native oaks. We have enough oaks and the fallen acorns are extremely hazardous.

69.

4/13/2008 6:34:00 PM

The general community benefits from having both a golf course and the lake. Since the general community pays for ALL of the expenses of maintaining the lake therefore the general community should also pay a substantial portion of maintaing the golf course and the required updates for the course. The value of every house in LWW benedits from the golf course.

70.

4/14/2008 12:29:00 AM

Thanks for the oportunity to express our opinion in the relaxed atomosphere of our home. Good Luck

71.

4/15/2008 2:41:00 AM

Bob, Fantastic job! Doug Dorfmeier

72.

4/15/2008 3:22:00 PM

I have indicated several times my desire to see the bunkers cut back to a reasonable level so that the lips are not so daunting. Otherwise, I think the general plan is fine. I would like to see the trees taken out that have to be cut back every year (and left to look like people with stumps for arms!!)and then drop huge leaves every fall. (Don't know the name.) I can't remember if there are any cypress trees left, but if so, don't cut them down!! The repair of the greens is more important to me than the tees, most of which seem fine.

73.

4/15/2008 9:36:00 PM

I believe the golf course is a capital asset to the entire community. All capital improvements should be paid for by the entire community. All items in the Golf Master Plan are capital improvements. They are not maintenance items. Maintenance is to take care of what we have now, not to make significant improvement changes. Golfers should pay for the maintenance. The entire community,that also includes the golfers, should pay for the capital improvements.

74.

4/16/2008 12:28:00 AM

In general I think it has been a mistake in hiring this Architect in the first place. We are presently having difficulties funding maintenance and have had to raise fees. The people I play with like the course the way it is. My guess is the low handicap golfers that play 3-4 times per week may want these changes. If so, lets figure out a way they can pay more per game. Presently, those of us who play once or twice a week and only 9 holes pay the same as the 18 hole golfers who play 3-4 days per week.

75.

4/16/2008 12:44:00 AM

Keep the Golf Course fees as they are, makeing minor fee changes as needed .... I would like to see a 2 dollar per round sur charge....That would be bout 60,000 or more a year which could be used for improvenents. Let the Golf Committee use money as they see fit. Those who use the golf course the most should pay the most. If we wait around for the Assn to pay for the Master Plan ..Our names will be on those little memorial plaques around the golf course.

76.

4/16/2008 12:47:00 AM

Thanks for all the hard work to make LWW a better place to live and play.

77.

4/16/2008 1:54:00 PM

THANKING YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK IN COMPILING THIS OPINION SURVEY!

78.

4/16/2008 4:52:00 PM

Funding of the projects should be addressed first in the survey as these can influence the answers given on the variaous projects. Otherwise the survey was very well done.

79.

4/16/2008 5:02:00 PM

Although I am a relatively new golfer, I hope to be golfing for sometime to come. I appreciate all the effort being made to ensure the LWW golf course improves and continues to be a beautiful place to be and enjoy the sport of golf. (J deLisser)

80.

4/16/2008 5:21:00 PM

Too many changes all at once. If we could schedule 1 or 2 new projects per year, maybe we could get some of these changes through. Also prioritize projects. Let us not forget we have a fine, interesting golf course.

81.

4/16/2008 5:23:00 PM

Why are we the only golf course in the world with pickup trucks making terrible ruts when they can't stay on the cartpaths while driving at 40 miles per hour?

82.

4/16/2008 6:00:00 PM

Every lot owner helps to pay for the lake, the roads, security, the parks and the clubhouse. Why not the golf course and pool also? The golfer's should pay for the maintenance, or at least most of it. This community would not be the same without the lake, nor would it be the same without the golf course. Each enhances all our property values.

83.

4/16/2008 6:10:00 PM

If you want a championship golf course, why did you move to Lake Wildwood? Spend your big dollars and move to an upscale area where you can spend 10 times more on your golf. The majority of Lake Wildwood is retired on fixed income. They should receive first consideration. Not recently retired or about to retire folks with increased income. LWW is blue collar - keep it blue collar.

84.

4/16/2008 7:23:00 PM

Really appreciate your efforts and dedication to this project.. Certainly hope it will provide the impetus to move forward in as rational way

85.

4/16/2008 8:27:00 PM

I feel that priorities need to be set. And a plan for what gets done when and a cost analysis per project before any surcharges as assessments are made. Remember, this is a Golf Club, not a country club.

86.

4/16/2008 8:53:00 PM

A survey like this should have been sent out before hiring a golf course architect and before removing trees.

87.

4/16/2008 9:09:00 PM

Get thirty year loan to pay for it. Let people after us pay some of the cost like a municipal bond.

88.

4/16/2008 9:23:00 PM

Good first step

89.

4/16/2008 11:39:00 PM

Make maps showing 1---- 9 hole golf layout 2 ---- make a 18 hole golf layout

90.

4/16/2008 11:42:00 PM

Curious, What should be the average period of time taken to respond to the survey. It took me 1 and 1/4 hrs. to complete. Am I average?

91.

4/17/2008 1:44:00 AM

We paid a lot of money for the master plan; seems like we should be figuring out what we can afford to do first and do it. We discuss a lot about what to do at LWW, but no one makes a decision and actually does anything.

92.

4/17/2008 1:55:00 AM

With the proposed annual fee increases this coming year, I am not supportive of additional surcharges for annual fees. I believe that the golf course is a great enhancement to the Lake Wildwood Community and the improvements should be paid from our annual fees to the association.

93.

4/17/2008 1:43:00 PM

We have a great community and a great golf course. Many of us would be happy to pay a bit more to maintain and make improvements to our golf course. Please continue to pursue this. The demographics are changing, and perhaps in the near future a majority will approve an increase in fees, for the changes that we all want. Thanks for your efforts.

94.

4/17/2008 4:33:00 PM

I would like to better understand the green replacement process. For example, if 3 cycles of replacements could occur in a year, then I would suggest replacing 3 at a time, thus accomplishing the replacement of all 18 greens in 2 years. I need more information before I can form an opinion on the rate of green replacements. I would add one additional change for consideration. Almost all the approaches to our greens are uphill, and some at a fairly steep grade. I would like to see the grade reduced on a few of them to make the course more playable for people at my level.

95.

4/17/2008 10:53:00 PM

Good job and productive for those who take the time to think it through and answer objectively.

96.

4/17/2008 11:01:00 PM

My observations of golfers at LWW has been that most residents and golf members are of an older age. Thus, we are shorter hitters who don't see the need for lengthening some holes. I'd like to see some trimming of the big oaks on the left side of holes #7 & 13, about 50-75 yards ahead of the tee. I also feel that the restrictions of no carts on some holes and no closer than 75-80 yards of the green for most is excessive. In very wet conditions, okay, but why in dry green flag conditions aren't carts permitted on all fairways that a handicap flag cart can go? And a little closer to the green with carts would help speed up play.

97.

4/18/2008 2:17:00 AM

We currently spend a lot of money maintaining our course. Our proceedures, compared to my other golf course experiences are incredibly wasteful. I have a video from 1/08 which shows 2 days of work by 13 people and 11 pieces of equipment to remove 1 tree on hole 11. Too many people on small projects, wasted time and resources in the way greens and fairways are plugged and piled inappropriately. In direct conversations, I have confirmed that our staff is poorly managed. I am frustrated watching workers on their knees for days slowly hand clipping bunkers and sprinklers. The sanding of the greens has caused large mounds to form around every green making hitting the fringe a penalty. Some of the worst grass on the course is within 10 yards of the green and the tee boxes are continually embarasing to me when I bring guests. Hole 9 tee has NEVER had grass on it in 8 yrs! The drainage done on hole 10 has never been completed. Our manager killed the new grass we layed on the 4th tee in less than 1 year and blamed God. The project on hole 15 was extremely over budget and not even close to the project plan. Our greens are all bumpy and different speeds. Our irrigation practice results in constant wet spots all summer. We average only 84 yards of roll in an average round. Most courses average over 268 yards according to NCGA database. Rather than adding more projects for our management to handle poorly, I would like to see our management placed on performance improvement plan supervised by a qualified and experienced general manager. The NCGA has programs designed to help courses with our kind of problems but we don't let them help and we don't listen to them when they try.

98.

4/18/2008 5:32:00 AM

For my use as a golfer this course is all I need.

99.

4/18/2008 4:40:00 PM

I would have thought that an increase of over 50% during the last 12 calendar months of annual golf dues would go a long way toward meeting some of the costs associated with the Golf Course Master Plan. As for the fee paid to the golf course architect - no comment. I commend the Golf Committee for circulating this survey. It's encouraging to know that the committee is not the only decision maker when it comes to the husbandry of our golf course.

100.

4/18/2008 6:48:00 PM

I strongly believe all 2841 lots should contribute to the golf course other than just replacement reserve money. Every member should contribute to the maintenance and well being of all the amenities within Lake Wildwood because every lot owner benefits with his property value. I also believe the Association should look into a long term loan (30 year) to use to upgrade and maintain all the amenities. That way residents who move into Lake Wildwood 5 years, 10 years, 15 years from now will be contributing to the overall upkeep and maintenance and not put the total burden of monies on those of us that live here now. Great job Bob Martin. You have my vote for whatever you decide to run for!

101.

4/19/2008 12:59:00 AM

Great job. Very thorough and understandable

102.

4/19/2008 5:27:00 PM

We feel strongly that the golf course is a definite asset to the Lake Wildwood community. In our efforts to pay for improvements and replacements due to age and deteriation we need to make sure that we do not price a segment of our community from using the golf course. We, in turn, should be sure to control the number of groups and tournament play so that the average member or our community can utilize the course without being forced to join a group in order to play during the prime times, i.e., morning tees times. Those nonmembers are forced to play in the afternoon in the hot weather.

103.

4/19/2008 7:42:00 PM

I beleive the golf course benefits the entire LWW community, therefore it is the responsibility of all association members to support it financially

104.

4/19/2008 9:24:00 PM

Comment I: There are two problems with the present golf course that impact my joy of playing it: Problem A) There is a preponderence contours around the holes on many of the greens; (Note: The present maintenace practice of merely tamping the ground when a hole is inserted does not appear to be working. I suggest that in its place the green be rolled in the vicinity of the hole following cutting the grass of a green. Perhaps, it would also be helpful if some type of lubricant, such as WD40, was introduced into the hole in the bottom metal lining into which the flag pole is inseted.) Problem B): The overhanging lips that are present in many of the bunkers are unsightly and should be eliminated. In my view, both of these two problems are easily solved, and their solutions should have a higher near term priorty than the implementation of the various elements contained in the Master Plan. Comment II: I assume that most, if not all, of the costs of implementing the various segments of the Master Plan will be borne by the golfers who are being asked to respond to the survey. Thus, I believe that the results of the survey would be far more useful if the potential respondees were provided with (i) the estimated costs and (ii) the potential impact on course down-time asssociated with each Master Plan element on which their opinions about its relative desirability is being sought.

105.

4/19/2008 10:52:00 PM

I hate to so negative. Everyone here liked and enjoyed golf at Lake Wildwood or wouldn't have moved here. Throw away "non-resident" architect study. Too grandiose - not necessary.

106.

4/20/2008 12:56:00 AM

I know this has been discussed ad nauseum, but I don't understand why the Greens, which are commonly known to have a maximum 30 year life, cannot be replaced using Replacement Reserve Funds... "Replacement Reserve Funds. These are funds which come from the complete Lake Wildwood Community, not just golfers, and are set aside over time and intended to be used to replace a capital item that has been identified as having a limited lifetime." Isn't 30 years a limited lifetime? If the general population does not help support the continued operation of a first class golf course, then ALL property values will decline and ALL LWW residents will lose. Non-golfers benefit from having a first class golf course (their home value), so why shouldn't they help support the course?

107.

4/20/2008 1:23:00 AM

Well done. If push came to shove, we might make a donation. The problem is, Hospice, the Hospital Foundation, Women of Worth, Interfaith Ministries and the Church come ahead of you.

108.

4/20/2008 1:41:00 PM

With the MP completed, is the Golf Committee now working on a MP Priority Plan? Do we have input from the GP architect regarding what should be a priority in developing and maintaining a good course? Pls. keep in mind that most of the LWW golfers are "recreational golfers" and want to keep the price of golf low. Our course currently is a wonderful course and yes, the MP will make it a better one. However, to keep costs reasonable we need to develop a Priority Plan that addresses this. This is a very difficult task for the the Golf Committee and I do appreciate all the time and energy they have given.

109.

4/20/2008 2:12:00 PM

Homeowners have a great deal of investment in the golf course. Their opinions should be taken in account as much as the golfers who use the course.

110.

4/20/2008 5:43:00 PM

What about a fund raiser to pay for costs? A tournament, dinner, silent auction, etc.? We would help and think that many others would also.

111.

4/20/2008 6:32:00 PM

This was a very good first effort. I am sure the Survey Committee will be able to fine tune it for future surveys. One such tune up might include the ability to comment on the voluntary contribution question.

112.

4/20/2008 7:15:00 PM

Unlimited golf is too cheap. The fee should be between $1300.00 and $1500.00.Our course is worn out because of people who want to play 18 holes 6 or 7 days a week. Let them pay some more to maintain our course.

113.

4/20/2008 8:49:00 PM

Although I am in favor of many of the projects and have indicated so with a positive response, my opinion might be different if I knew the cost of the project and how that would impact the additional fee structure.

114.

4/20/2008 9:14:00 PM

In my opinion the Plan is trying to make this course into a TPC type of course. Most of the golfers I know are older and do not hit the ball as far as the pros. We do not need a longer course. If a green needs to be replaced, OK, rebuild it. Currently the bunkers are in need of a lot of help. Most are lacking a lot of sand and huge lips are a result. Current bunkers just need more sand. Some tees are also in bad shape. I believe this is because the maintenance crew is not doing a good job in maintaining the tees. In some cases the tees are not repositioned for several days and consequently a lot of wear is a result. It is very easy to move a tee every day and repair the divots daily. Making cart paths wider is a good idea. Most of the damage along the paths is not done by the golfers, it is done by the maintenance trucks.

115.

4/21/2008 1:48:00 AM

Since I am not a par golfer and play in the 9 hole ladies group, I enjoy playing our course the way it is. I have always thought it is a beautiful, challenging course and have enjoyed playing it. Thank you for conducting this survey and asking the opinions of the golf community.

116.

4/21/2008 4:40:00 PM

I like the course very much just the way it is. I also agree that we should improve the course gradually so as not to become a large financial burden. I realize that "financial burden" is a relative term. For those who have loads of money they perhaps would like to make our course look like Winchester Golf Club tomorrow. I hope good sense and reason will prevail. We should remember that most of our players are very average players and a few are poor players and a few are excellent players. We should aim our modification at the desires of the middle , not the ends.

117.

4/21/2008 5:00:00 PM

This golf cours is primarily used by senior golfers, most on a fixed retirement income. Speaking for myself, I love the course and realize that cetain maintenance duties have to be done to keep it in good shape. I just wonder, at what point I will find the dues to high to be able to continue. According to the meeting that was held in the Cypress room a couple of months ago, the maintenance costs have not increased dramatically but the membership has dropped causing the need for increased fees. I am reminded of British Rail, in England in the 60's. They kept increasing the fares as they weren't getting enough passengers. The more they increased the fares, the more passengers they lost. They eventually closed down the services and sold it of to commercial ventures, one of Whom was Virgin, (Richard Branson). He immediately reduced fares and increased performance. Virgin trains are still running at a profit. Perhaps we should be doing more to increase membership as I'm sure the latest increase in golf dues, will result in another drop in membership. Thank you David Kedie

118.

4/21/2008 7:52:00 PM

We as golfers support the golf course plus all other LWW amenities i neveruse the lake but my fee's go towards it's use Perhaps boaters should pay equally like $300 per boat as we pay per cart. I think a two cart family should get a break many couples events we use only one cart Also the fixed income families may just quit golf with added surcharges, so instead of increasing revenue you could lose membership! Most of us moved here because it is affordable. We like the golf course the way it is ,your aesthetic changes are unneeded

119.

4/21/2008 9:07:00 PM

I find the golf course to be enjoyable and challenging as is. I don't see the need to spend a lot of money to make the course longer, tougher, or more aesthetic. Spend money on the necessities such as drainage, irrigation system, cart paths, etc. I would like to see a priority list, developed by Ken Wolford and Jim Knight, that would cover what MUST be done over the next five years to maintain the course in good playable condition. Each year this 5-year plan would be updated, indicating what was accomplished and what new projects are added.

120.

4/21/2008 10:37:00 PM

Most golfers here play at a level consistent with this course- as a "Medium Tough Course" therefore we do not need improvements consistent with a course that is at a level with difficult pro courses

121.

4/21/2008 10:53:00 PM

The Archetect provide an abundance of changes perhaps in excess to accomodate his fee. The overall picture is to revamp all of the course. Why not buy land and begin again and provide a new LWW somewhere else? I disagree with any increase in fee's, the golf course increases all the values of each home yet only the lake is LWW subsidized - Why not the course? why not increase everyone for needed maintenance - as for the lake.

122.

4/21/2008 11:12:00 PM

The Master Plan is an itegra plan to improve and enhance our golf course, both functionally and visually, and it should be treated as such. This survey should be used to measure member support for the plan as a whole and not as the basis for creating a different plan

123.

4/21/2008 11:22:00 PM

Excellent staff-excellent ???-excellent people. Lots of fun golfing. Take caution in what you wish for and the amoutn being spent. Most of us are retired, high handicap players. Don't price us out.

124.

4/21/2008 11:24:00 PM

Long Overdue

125.

4/21/2008 11:32:00 PM

The golf course is in much better condition than when we moved here in 1992. I feel that trying to make our course a real upgrade country club is NOT what we had in mind when we bought here. Yes, we must keep it up, but I've never been ashambed to invite people to golf here - our beautiful course. Let's not run out the medium-income people in favor of those who don't have to worry if we can continue to live here.

126.

4/21/2008 11:38:00 PM

I am still upset they removed the 150 yrd trees on the course. Leave the golf course as is - keep it watered and keep it green.

127.

4/21/2008 11:41:00 PM

I am not in favor of any changes to make the course easier to play

128.

4/21/2008 11:46:00 PM

With the economy the way it is this is not a good time for added expenditures

129.

4/22/2008 8:13:00 PM

Generally, I am pleased woth the condition of the course. I wold like to see the general population als be assessed for the updating of the course as necessary, like the rest of us are for the lake.

130.

4/22/2008 9:58:00 PM

Under no circumstances should many of the Golf Course Master Plan projects be established as a surcharge.. As stated in your prelim to this set of questions, items which have a limited life MUST be on Replacement Reserves. The Finance and Audit committee had better go back to the drawing boards and make a correct determination to include the following golf course components part of RR funds: Greens, bunkers, drains systems associated with greens & bunkers and in some cases sprinkler systems. This must be corrected at once. The erroneous handling of our replacement reserve funds can no longer be tolerated by the golfing community!! The golf course is a community amenity and as such the expense for the components mentioned above should be shared by the ENTIRE community. There should not be a surcharge of any kind for items that should be funded from replacement reserves!! The Finance and Audit committee should correct their handling of these components of the Golf Course Master Plan to ensure that these expenses will be appropriated from the proper accounting funds.

131.

4/22/2008 11:03:00 PM

In this time of bad economy I feel these steps should be weighed heavily as homes are not moving and new people are few. Money has to be flowing.

132.

4/22/2008 11:11:00 PM

Wait until economy picks up.

133.

4/22/2008 11:17:00 PM

Thanks for all the effort to improve the golf course!

134.

4/22/2008 11:38:00 PM

1. The problem with the entire presentation is the lack of cost information. Without that it is difficult to be objective. 2. The designer appears to want something that would be a showcase country club.That is not this community. 3. The present maintenance is not quite adequate although it is not too bad. The lawn mowers need much improvement. The fairway grass is too often not cut well or is simply pushed over. Sand traps are bad and need replacement or improvement. Some greens need replacement. These are my first priorities. 4. By California law the Board must provide reserves to replace capital assets as they reach their end-of-life. Our golf course is a capital asset. As such, a lifetime MUST be assigned to it and funds allocated for its replacement. Where is that allocation in our reserve funds? It appears that, based upon the architect's statements, this has not been done adequately. Much of the proposed work should come from capital reserves. The golf course has a limited life just as do roads. Where is the funding in the reserves? This is an item upon which the association is at risk! 5. Most of our members are older and thus longer back tees are of no value to them. 6. Although I have been very critical in my comments, I highly commend all who worked on it. I know they worked very hard and will be criticized by many. That is certainly not my intent here. Let's continue the discussion and improve our course!!!

135.

4/23/2008 3:36:00 AM

I feel the cart paths on 13 and 14 need to be addressed ASAP with a concrete path having a 8 foot width. Their current condition creates a health and safety issue of major proportions. There is approximately $86,000 in replacement reserves which have been there for several years and I am at a loss as to why this issue has not been addressed in past years.

136.

4/23/2008 3:39:00 AM

I'm not a life time golfer-I have only started playing after retirement and moving to lake wildwood. I have only played a few courses other then wildwood, so I think this is a very good course and really does not need many additions or changes.

137.

4/23/2008 4:22:00 AM

The golf fees have increaed 58% since 2006. At the February meeting I wa told that the fees were being raised because of a revenue shortfall, but it appeared the Association does not know why there are a large number of revenue rounds not being purchased. How can we expect the golfer to approve any Master Plan improvements that would increase the golf rates even more? Further, I do not think the BOD will approve a large increase in the annual assessment fees for some Golf Course Master Plan improvements. The BOD could approve allowing 8 or 10 starting times on the weekends to be available for outsiders. That could raise revenue from $8000. to $16,000.00 per month to be used for the Go0lf Course Master Plan Fund.

138.

4/23/2008 4:55:00 AM

Lake Wildwood is a nice and enjoyable golf course. Pretty and it seems that I am always on vacation!!

139.

4/23/2008 5:23:00 AM

I'm not happy about the surcharge but I understand it. Everyone should pay equally. Our golf course should have been included with the general fund as it's just as much an asset as the lake.

140.

4/23/2008 5:46:00 AM

I though we were taking care of items like sir charges by charging higher fees for people who play more than 75 round/yr. If there is to be a sir charge per round, that sir charges takes care of how many rounds you play and in that case then everybody should have the same basic golf fee, or simply: Final fee per round = Sir charge per Round = call it what ever you want Final Yearly Fee = Yearly Sir Charge = call it what ever you want Now lets get serious!!! For funding, the golf course should be treated exactly the same as the Lake is treated and come from exactly the same funds. (which ever they are) Questions 46, 47, 48 don't let me make comments

141.

4/23/2008 3:43:00 PM

We have had surveys in the past, I just wonder if this time we are actually going to do something.

142.

4/23/2008 5:29:00 PM

I think the home owners assoc. dues should be responsible and all residents should pay. The golfers have to pay for rec rooms, marinas etc.

143.

4/23/2008 6:31:00 PM

Some of the proposed plans although benefitial are not top priority. I would like to see the effort made to maintain what we already have rather than add yardage. There are many areas IN PLAY that become dry hardpan in the summer months. Watering these areas would be a low cost and greatly needed improvement. Hole #7 gets no water on the right side of the cart path (where many balls land from the tee box) The irrigation line could be extended down the right side and improve the appearance as well as the playing surface. If money were no object, all the proposed improvements would be wonderful. However, since we must keep within a budget, there must be careful consideration of which improvements demand priority. It is very discouraging to see our new "practice" area hardly ever used because the "wonder grass" didn't live up to their advertising. It is very easy to spend but let's get our money's worth.

144.

4/23/2008 10:38:00 PM

Again, I commend all the hard work! I do believe, however, we need to break out funding for must haves vs. nice to haves. Focus should be on improving the existing course and making sure we have the funds necessary to maintain it properly with consistent quality. Not up and down as it now is. Once all this is accomplished then we should look at nice too haves and how to pay for them. I believe we have lost focus and are trying to do too much! There are several aesthetic and esoteric plans that do not offer a good ROI for the majority of members. Funds are limited or in many instances or not available. To ask for additional funds without knowing what they will specifically fund is unacceptable. Focus is critical to ensure we have good ROI's on the funds we spend!!!!!!! Thanks for soliciting our input! I am willing to help out if anyone needs my assistance.

145.

4/23/2008 11:01:00 PM

While I would be willing to pay a per round surcharge - I feel that the it would be a hassle for both the golfer and pro shop to administrate.

146.

4/23/2008 11:06:00 PM

[email protected] Let's take care of the greens first.

147.

4/23/2008 11:27:00 PM

I believe that the Golf Master Plan is a very good one. I also believe that change is usually good for a variety of reasons. I know that there are many who are not comfortable with change and many who are not able to pay more for change. I think that a logical approach to the many projects imbedded within the Master Plan is imperative to accomplish the end result in the most efficient and cost effective manner. Prioritizing and combining activities to maximize the labor and materials is essential. Implementing the plan in a timely manner is also essential as the longer we wait the more expensive the implementation becomes over time. The #14 bridge is a prime example.

148.

4/24/2008 12:09:00 AM

Tell people up front how many questions are in the survey and give a time estimate for taking the survey. If there were a short version I'm sure you would get more feedback. The way things have been handled, a lot of people feel their opinions won't mean anything anyway, so why bother. The Cypress trees served as excellent 150 yard markers that could be seen at a distance and fit into the "natural" habitat much better than any painted items.

149.

4/25/2008 1:34:00 PM

Need to fix the greens and finish the forward tees!

150.

4/25/2008 1:41:00 PM

my donation would depend on how much of the plan is implemented---great job on the survey!!

151.

4/25/2008 1:50:00 PM

Tennis and Lake are paid from capital improvement the golfd should be too. It benefits the entire community as well. The greens, forward tees, bunkers etc. should be out of replacement reserve money, how ridiculous to think the golfers can pay for it all. Then why not the lake front and boaters do the same for the lake.

152.

4/25/2008 2:01:00 PM

Looiks like alot of work and thought went into this. The summary will be a task. Good luck and keep up the good work!!

153.

4/25/2008 2:16:00 PM

due to my age and health It is obvious I have very limited skills. I enjoy the game and love playing on the existing course, however I am not against improving the course. But I am against change for no apparent good or reason.

154.

4/25/2008 2:37:00 PM

there was an attached letter but as imput person I will not type it. It will be attached to printout later.

155.

4/25/2008 2:50:00 PM

drastic changes to the course are not necessary. to spend the money to hire the architect was a waste and could have been used much better to make some improvements that are necessary.

156.

4/25/2008 3:04:00 PM

LLW golf is beautiful and challenges all levels of golfers. As there are things that need to be addressed and fixed, to redo the entire course is not justified. To keep raising fees on golfers only is not fair as the entire community benefits from this ammentity. FUnds would be better spent to increase maintaneance staff. I have lived here ove 16 yrs and never tire of playing this course. Also you might consider closing the course one day a week for maintaince and rest. To make changes for the sake of change is not good and irresponsible as you will start pricing a certain % of people out.

157.

4/25/2008 4:13:00 PM

To raise funds, perhaps a special fee for renters in Lake Wildwood. I have filled out the survey but am uncertain how the funds can be obtained for all of the work that needs to be done on the golf course. For sure, the greens need to be replaced and the other work should be apportioned as the funds are available. When we move here 22 years ago, there was an assessment on all homes when purchased; I believe that it was a sewer assessment. It might be a good idea to assess each sale of a home in Lake Wildwood, say $3,000, and each purchase of $2,000. This would be on all homes sold and purchased over the next several years. there should only be an assessment on every golfer according to the estimated number of games projected for the next five years. In our case, we have just about maxed out our golfing days.

158.

4/25/2008 6:57:00 PM

Bob - there were NO responses to this survey past # 27 - that's why all the "NO Opinions" - Maddie

159.

4/25/2008 9:01:00 PM

a lot of effort compiling the survey but probably nothing will come of it! some long time property owners are not real happy with changes being made at LWW. Concerning surcharge: assessment of entire LWW property owners - golf course increases value of all properties!

160.

4/25/2008 9:46:00 PM

why is LWW trying to have the golfers pay the tab for replacement items? This is a LWW amenity & should be treated like one and paid by all owners. Should only those with boats pay for the lake?

161.

4/25/2008 9:52:00 PM

Why do some people think that we, golfers, should pay surcharges for repairs for maintenance for the golf course. Do any of the other users of the lake, tennis court, swimming pool etc. pay surcharges for their improvement projects? Why don't you get a loan and make yearly payments so that we who live here now don't have to pay for the whole bill?

162.

4/25/2008 9:53:00 PM

when I picked up this survey in the Pro Shop, I asked if there was a deadline because I would not be back for a couple of weeks and was told "no deadline". I just rec'd the Bits and found out there is. Hope this gets included. Mailing right now - April 21st.

163.

4/25/2008 10:07:00 PM

I've covered a lot of territory in past 30 minutes. However, I will be an advocate of the GCMP and one day, I'll be on the Golf Comm, working to improve our greatest asset here at LWW Many thanks.

164.

4/25/2008 10:10:00 PM

[From question #44] Why in the world would we come up with an "improved" annual plan one day and almost the next day start a campaign on "surcharges"? Is this the "lack of confidence in the new annual plan"? Please! Have we considered a "bond" fund for a determined period of time, for which all here now and forward will pay for - 10 years - 20 years - 30 years??

165.

4/25/2008 10:36:00 PM

it is a golf course architect and or consultants liveihood to make all types of suggestions - some good, some not necessary. They may be known as pyramid builders. I think moving bridge on #14 should be our #1 priority. No mention of new tee on #13 which is almost ready to finish.

166.

4/27/2008 3:16:00 AM

All improvements to the golf course should be assessed to all 3300 Association members.

167.

4/27/2008 3:50:00 AM

While I agree LWW needs a Golf MP, two things I would have liked to have seen included in the Plan is a Prioritization Plan with the criteria used to develop the priorities, and a Cost Estimate Plan (maybe these are in the process of being developed.) While it would be great to implement all the improvements identified in the MP, what we need to know is -- What things HAVE to be done so that the course can operate as a cost-efficient, recreational golf course. I say recreational because I think for the price and the current course condition, that's what we have here. I think the plan is more grandiose than what the members want to pay for. I don't think the membership should determine

168.

4/27/2008 9:18:00 PM

My wife and I will be reducing our golf due somewhat to age, but mostly to cost. After 26 years of full time golf, I will no longer pay for unlimited play. Golf has been an important part of my life for 73 years.