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Ljubljana Life Interview:
U.S. Ambassador to Slovenia,
Mr. Johnny Young
by wes eichenwald, january 2002 Although it’s a bit too much to view
them as objects of pity, it may not be entirely inappropriate to take a
moment to empathize with the situation of a new ambassador in a foreign
capital, especially if he or she has had no prior connection to the
place. On the one hand, almost immediately upon arrival they find
themselves subtly patronized by local politicians, diplomats and
journalists; on the other, they suffer almost the same treatment by the
"old hands" from their own country, who are only too eager to take them
aside and explain "the way things really run around here." Even in less
tense times, their lives weren’t merely an endless round of receptions,
banquets and toasts. In this post-September 11 world, even if you’re
the new American ambassador of a peaceful, relatively quiet role model
of an emerging democracy in Central Europe, the demands on your time
and energies are exceptional.
On a typically chilly, gray early December day in Ljubljana, I
headed to the U.S. Embassy a bit early for the interview and, after
running a thorough (and unsurprising) gamut of security checks in the
heavily guarded fortress on Prešernova cesta, spent approximately 25
minutes in the company of the new American ambassador to Slovenia,
Johnny Young. For someone only about six weeks into a three-year
assignment, the congenial Mr. Young had already gotten around to seeing
a good many pieces of the green piece of Europe. A career Foreign Service officer since 1967, Johnny Young was born
in Savannah, Georgia and grew up in Philadelphia. (When assigned to the
U.S., he and his wife Angelena live in Kensington, Maryland.) He came
to Ljubljana after having been Chief of Mission in Bahrain in the
Middle East; before that he was posted in Africa as ambassador to Togo
(1994-97) and Chief of Mission to Sierra Leone (1989-92). Slovenia is
not, however, his first European posting; from 1985 to 1988 he served
as a Counselor of Embassy (staff officer) in the Netherlands. In the brief time I spent with him, Mr. Young (whose pinstriped suit
was adorned with a U.S./Slovene dual-flag friendship pin) came across
as every inch the diplomat. Mature and soft-spoken, he is a gentleman
who expresses himself in a carefully considered and deliberate fashion;
always polite, if guarded (one would hardly expect otherwise). He
impressed me as being a highly intelligent man, well-informed, sure of
himself and his embassy’s mission in Slovenia in today’s troubled
world. And even as a new kid on the block, the ambassador seems more
than capable of taking care of himself in Ljubljana. ***** Q: I should start by asking about your initial impressions of the
country; have you gotten a chance to see much of it besides Ljubljana? A: In the short time we’ve been here, I don’t think we’ve done
badly. Our goal is to try and visit a city or an area outside of
Ljubljana each Saturday, if possible. We’ve been to Bled and to Bohinj,
and my wife has been to Maribor, and I’ve been to a place called
Ajševica, which is a place not even most Slovenes know - it’s in Nova
Gorica, it’s where the military language school is located. And we’ve
been to Portorož, Piran, Izola, Novo Mesto...Vrhnika, Otočec. So I
don’t think that’s bad for six weeks, and we will continue to see more;
there’s so much to see in this country, every little village and town
has something that’s of interest. We haven’t been to Lipica, not yet -
we do not ride horses, we love to watch them. I don’t think you’re
going to get me on a horse or ski at this age. I’m afraid of breaking
things, things that are not easily repaired... Q: Fair enough. Was there anything that really surprised you
after you came here, because I know you hadn’t been to Slovenia before. A: Well, I had read about it, people had told me about it, and I had
seen one or two pictures. But nothing really captures the beauty of the
place until you’re here in person and see it for yourself. If anything,
it’s even better than (it’s) portrayed in those various ways. Q: Wanting to come to Slovenia was basically your idea... A: Let me put it this way: I expressed interest in coming here. When
one is demonstrating interest in a diplomatic posting as ambassador,
you can’t say ‘I only want to go there and nowhere else.’ It doesn’t
quite work that way. This was one country in which I showed great
interest, and I was happy that I was eventually the successful
candidate; there were other candidates competing to come here as well. Q: I suppose I should ask you the same question every American
who comes to live in Slovenia gets asked, which is: Why Slovenia? A: And my counter to that is, why not Slovenia? But I wanted to come
here for several reasons. I had read about the country’s history and
what they were doing, how successful they were; that there was great
beauty here to be seen; and that they were headed in the right
direction for the future. And I said, ‘that sounds like my kind of
place.’ Q: What new challenges does Slovenia offer to you? A: Well, the challenge that any ambassador would have would be to
achieve the goals outlined for the U.S. government in the country to
which the ambassador is assigned. Our goals here are relatively
straightforward: number one, we wish to continue the cooperation that
we have with Slovenia in a wide range of international fora and over a
wide range of issues. Number two, we want to work with Slovenia in
making it the best candidate possible for favorable consideration for
entry into NATO. We want to work with the government in whatever way we
can in creating the kind of environment here that will be of interest
to American business firms, and then we want to work with the different
non-governmental institutions here, and even some governmental
institutions, I should add, involved in civil society, organizations
that deal with specific issues: women’s issues, children’s issues,
education, human rights, things like that. Q: How does Slovenia fit into American policy in the Balkans and Central Europe, particularly in light of the terrorism crisis? A: We look at Slovenia as a key partner in what we are trying to do
in contributing to peace and stability in this region, and they’ve been
a very good partner in that regard. The Balkans remains an area of
still unresolved problems, and Slovenia, in its role in KFOR and SFOR,
has demonstrated that it’s a good partner in working with the
international community and with the United States in what is being
attempted to bring stability and peace to that region. In addition, the
success of this country itself in other areas - how well it’s doing
economically, how stable it’s been politically - serves as an example
to the other countries in the region that they too can succeed through
good governance, good policies. Q: What do you think the government of Slovenia wants most from the United States? A: It wants our support in the achievement of some of its
aspirations, such as to join NATO, to join the European Union (to the
extent that we can support that) as well, and also its efforts in other
international organizations, such as the OECD...and they also want us
to provide continued support for their individual efforts that they’re
taking in this region, and we do that as well. For example, the
de-mining program is a case in point, where the Slovenes have taken the
lead in developing this program to a level of efficiency and
effectiveness that makes it the model of this type of de-mining
operation not only in this region, but worldwide. And we’re very, very
proud to be associated with that, and to continue our support of that
organization. Q: A friend of mine back in the States recently asked me, ‘Why
can’t more countries be like Slovenia?’ - that is, wanting to live in
peace with its neighbors, relatively problem-free and prosperous. I
think it’s a good question, so I was wondering if you had any thoughts
on that... A: Well, I think that they can, but I think it depends on the will
of the leadership to want the country to succeed and in being prepared
to make compromises for success. Now, it is true that Slovenia is a
country that is more homogeneous in its population, and that certainly
has contributed to some of the stability here. That said, the
government has also made accommodation for its minority populations,
and this shows wise leadership and the kind of spirit of compromise
that is needed in other parts of the Balkans as well. Q: Have you been able to get a good fix on most Slovenes’ attitudes toward Americans? A: I can say that in the short time that I’ve been here, I’ve found
it to be very positive. I haven’t found any negatives in that regard. I
find that they like Americans and they’re very proud, also, to tell you
that, oh, ‘I have an uncle in Ohio’ or ‘I have a cousin in Chicago,’ or
something like that. So they’ve been very friendly, and have
demonstrated very positive thoughts about the United States. I think
the expression of sympathy that we received following the terrorist
attacks in September was indicative of that - the Slovenes were the
first off the mark to express their sympathy and their solidarity with
the United States. They have been consistent in terms of their support
for the coalition effort. I must say that’s been very much appreciated,
and they’re doing whatever they can; we’re cooperating in certain areas
over and above the good cooperation we’ve had in the past. Q: You can see greater political, economic and military cooperation between the U.S. and Slovenia in the future. A: Oh, yes, absolutely, no question; it’s already begun, and I have every reason to believe it will continue in the future. Q: So you would favor Slovenia’s entry into NATO... A: I would favor it, but that’s up to NATO to decide. And it’s up to
us to work with this government to make it the best candidate possible. Q: As a career diplomat who has represented both Republican and
Democratic administrations overseas, do you feel there’s a real
difference in the way the Foreign Service carries out its day-to-day
business depending on which party is in power? A: Absolutely not. I was going to take exception to your statement
in any case, only to say that it really doesn’t matter to us who is in
power; we carry out the policy as formulated by the president with the
assistance of the secretary of state. And it’s our obligation to carry
out those policies regardless of who is in office. I will only add that
we are unique in terms of the kind of oath of office we take when we
embark on assignments as Foreign Service officers and as ambassadors.
What’s unique about it is that we do not swear allegiance to a party;
we do not swear allegiance to the president; we swear allegiance to the
Constitution. There is no partisan side at all to that pledge. Q: Part of your embassy’s mission is the promotion of democracy? A: Well, it is, but I’m in a democratic country, so that makes the
promotion of democracy here considerably less than it was when I was in
my former posts, which were in various stages of democratic
development. For example, the posting I just left [Bahrain] was a
monarchy moving to a democratic monarchy; the posting that I was in
before that was a total dictatorship, and my number one job there was
to promote democracy and to promote the kind of development that would
come with a more democratic government. Here, the government is
democratic; it is a new democracy, so our role is to be as supportive
as we can in this kind of democratic regime. Q: Have you had any talks with your predecessor as ambassador (Nancy Ely-Raphel)? A: We spoke considerably before I arrived; we had lots of
telegraphic and e-mail exchanges, but I didn’t have the opportunity to
meet with her in Washington. We were in different parts of the country
and we just couldn’t get together. I hope to see her when I go back (to
the U.S.) in January for a conference - I think it’s always very
helpful to have the perspective of the former occupant of the position,
although each ambassador brings his or her own style and mark to the
position. Q: Returning to the terrorism crisis, is there anything specific that American citizens here should be keeping an eye out for? A: Well, I think that American citizens everywhere need to be
vigilant; they need to be very aware of their surroundings and what’s
happening. But they don’t need to do that to any greater degree because
they’re in Slovenia. I think that the nice thing is that because the
security situation is very good in this country and the government here
has been extremely helpful in providing good security for our
nationals, it doesn’t mean we don’t have to worry, but we certainly
don’t worry to the same degree as if we were walking in the streets of
certain countries in the Middle East or what have you; it’s a big
difference. Q: What are your thoughts about the fact that two American presidents have already visited Slovenia? A: That speaks for itself. I mean, how many countries much larger
than this one can look to that kind of recognition? I don’t think many. Q: Have you made any headway with the difficult Slovene language? A: No, I haven’t. Only a few little things, ‘thank you’ and what
have you. In fact, the most difficult challenge is trying to master the
names; they are very difficult, but the Slovenes I’ve met have been
very patient and understanding with us as we try to get through the
names, and little by little it’s coming, and I’m sure in time it’ll be
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