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June�July 2006 Loving More Edition
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Unless otherwise noted, all events are at 8515
Penfield in Winnetka, directions on last page.
For all events: RSVP the LTD Hotline, 818-886-0069.
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at Saratoga Springs Retreat Center
in Northern California. It is a private, clothing
optional retreat and natural spring located in a
gorgeous box canyon with 250 beautiful acres and
can hold up to 200 people. Info is on the web at
www.lovemore.com
or call 303-543-7540 for
details. We will be presenting here too!
Terry will lead a Poly Mixer
on Thursday evening, 10:15 � 11:15 PM.
Find out who here is single and looking for a primary
partner, which couples are seeking another partner,
which triads are seeking a fourth, etc. Are they into
SF? Pagan? B&D? This is a great opportunity to
connect with people new to this conference and to
find out what�s been happening in the lives of special
friends you may not have seen in years. You�ll be
able to plan time for deeper connections throughout
this four days of poly delight!
Led by Terry and Paul Brussel Gibbons.
Bio: Terry Brussel-Gibbons, Paul Brussel Gibbons,
Marcus Brussel Jenkins, and Laura Brussel Fiechter
are the coordinators of Live the Dream. Terry & Paul
have given presentations on alternative ways of
loving since 1978 for Family Synergy, Elysium,
Lifestyles, Loving More and numerous science fiction
conventions. Marcus and Laura have joined them in
these since handfasting with them. Terry has had
many articles published in singles/poly oriented
magazines and newspapers. Professionally, Terry is
a hypnotherapist and a 4th generation matchmaker.
For these services, she can be reached at 800 GOAL NOW (462-5669) or
800 LIFE MATE(S) (543-3628), for both
polys and straights. See
www.acesuccess.com.
Terry does hypnosis sessions
and life style counseling, by phone as well as in
person. Now in a four way group marriage, both
Terry and Paul have lived a life style of open,
committed relationships since their late teens.
Terry & Paul will also be on the Polyamory for
Life: Questions and Answers from Long-Term
Polys panel, Friday, June 2, 3:45-6:15PM.
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Just what is the Burning
Man Festival and why is this fantastic event for the
Polyamorous? Burning Man is a week long celebration
of SELF-expression through Art of any kind: Sculpture,
Music, Costumes, Poetry, Dance or performances of
any/every kind can be found around the clock! Burning
Man is VERY Poly friendly, with many Poly specific
camps that run such daily events as the Poly High Tea,
Human CarCASS Wash and more! Info:
www.burningman.com.
This year�s theme, �Hope and Fear: THE FUTURE�, is
very appropriate for those interested in alternate
relationship lifestyles & what the Future holds for us.
There are few other places on Earth where people
are totally accepting of ALL lifestyles. The openly Gay,
BDSM, Pagan, Nudist, Poly, and Born Again Christian
(nothing like seeing a Born again couple congratulating
a gay triad�s nuptials!) all co-exist in this near Utopian
environment. Families (with or without children) may be
present as a couple, triad, group marriage (I was
present for an Octal wedding in 2001!), Tribe or singles.
We will discuss the open, accepting society that exists
one week each year here in the Black Rock Desert and
how YOU can be a part of this.
Pot luck lunch at 1pm, call LTD hotline to RSVP.
If time permits, we may show one of the Burning Man
Documentaries: Dust Devils; Beyond Black Rock or ???
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Polyamorous Meet Point - Sunday Morning at 11 am. Join us for
Bagels, Cream cheese, Fruit, and a chance to
connect with like-minded people.
Were you inspired
by the Line Marriage from MOON IS A HARSH
MISTRESS, warmed by the Nest in STRANGER IN A
STRANGE LAND, fascinated by the even more unusual
group marriages/empathic groupings in Spider
Robinson�s STAR DANCE and CALLAHAN stories?
Dreams can come true. This get-together is for those
already into multiply committed relationships and those
who want to learn more about them. People like us do
not exist only in SF books! Come meet some kindred spirits.
We'll share our experiences in real triads, group
houses, open marriages, etc.
LOCATION: Ask hotel
registration desk for room number of Live the Dream or see
note in WesterCon Newsletter.
Note: We�ll be doing something similar at WorldCon August
23-27 at the Anaheim Convention Center and the Anaheim
Hilton & Marriott Hotels - more to follow in next News letter.
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Leo Carrillo State Beach in Malibu.
Tent or Van
camping is available. You are welcome to just join us for
the day Saturday or Sunday, but do let us know at least a
couple of days ahead of time if we are to expect and meet
up with you. Cell phone # to reach us at this event only
is 818-388-5612. Forest and sea meet beautifully at this
enchanting location.
We�ll spend Saturday enjoying the beach and swimming
in the ocean. There will be a marshmallow roast, moon lit
walk by the water and an evening swim Saturday night.
Sunday we will do brunch at Paradise Cove, a delightful
restaurant with a great salad bar, fresh sea food, an ocean
view and its own unusual beach! Prices are reasonable.
We�ll spend some time enjoying a walk and the scenery
after brunch.
Cost for camping: $25 for the 1st person in car + $18 each
additional person in same car if check is received by July 15th,
$35 for 1st person in car + $25 for each additional person
rates apply at campsite.
Send check made out to Success Center � 8515 Penfield
Ave, Winnetka, CA 91306, or call to put it on a credit card.
Saturday night dinner, marshmallows and camping fees for
Friday and Saturday nights are provided by LTD. All other
meals are bring your own food.
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In May of 2000 Paul and I had a Synergy gathering at
our home, the first one we've had there in years. Marcus
Jenkins attended that meeting. He sat in the hot tub telling
us stories about his life which sounded vaguely familiar.
The children he raised were those we had been hearing
about for years from one of our water brothers who had
been his co-husband when the girls were young. Our water
brother had stayed in their lives over the years. One of his
daughters lived with her boy friend in the group home of
Mark Merlino and Rodney O'Reily who have given LTD
many meetings on group living over the years. How did we
avoid meeting this man sooner? We should have tripped
over him!
We had him over for dinner, shared outings to romantic
restaurants, filk (science fiction folk singing) conventions
and story telling events. Marcus mostly did things with both
of us in the evenings and on weekends, though he and I
did do lunches together by ourselves during the week
several times. He was there for me a couple of times
when I was down for one reason or another and helped
cheer me with his very off beat sense of humor and his
caring. He and Paul talked about computers and
photography. We spent time together in bed and out.
We watched Star Trek and Babylon 5. He got to know
my daughter and started teaching art to my granddaughter.
We discussed our dreams, our political
opinions, who should do what chores, and what we
wanted from our relationships.
Marcus and our housemate/water brother of five
years, Carl, made connection, learned about each
other, and worked out how they could live in the same
house together. Though Carl is not romantically
involved with us, he is part of our family.
We all shared Water. See Stranger in a Strange
Land. Briefly, it is a commitment to be family-by-choice
on a permanent basis, whatever evolutions your
relationship may go through.
My Dad had been with Paul and I when Marcus came
into our lives. There was not really room for another
person to have his own room. My Dad decided to go
back to his estranged wife at the beginning of that year.
When my Dad moved out, Marcus moved in. Shortly
afterward, we decided to be handfasted and chose rings
together.
When a third person joins an already existing couple
(a legally married one in this case), how the first
commitment compares with the new one must be
considered and discussed. Complete equality may or
may not be possible, depending on the emotions of all
involved. Being in triads before we've learned what
works and a lot about what doesn't, though there will be
plenty more chances for such learning in the future of
this relationship.
Shortly after Marcus moved in, he attended an
annually held weekend birthday party with Paul and I for
one of our Water Brothers in the science fiction
community (Kathy Marr�s in the Bay Area). For the first
time, we were presenting ourselves as a committed
triad before our friends and family-by-choice.
Afterwards, we stayed in a hotel room together, also for
the first time, and actually registered as a triad! The
hotel, which usually did not allow three in a room, saw
matching gold rings on three hands and accepted it.
Before our formal handfasting, we started to work
out the finances of who pays for what on trips, in
restaurants and when the washing machine needs
repair. There are lots of details which may not come up
while dating (or not seem important enough to deal with
if the relationship may be only part time or short lived)
which suddenly matter when you are putting your lives
together for the long haul. In many ways it is the same
as when two people decide to be married. Differences lie in
the greater complexity of relationships to be worked out
including who leads in what circumstances, which kinds of
outing and activities do two or three of you go to together,
and who sleeps in themiddle. It can be fascinating and
frustrating, especially during the shakedown. The delight is
worth the hassle. It's part of who we are and what we want
from life.
*** 2006 Addendum ***
Will Jarvis (science fiction and lifestyles writer)
became part of our household when we moved to our
bigger home on Penfield in the west San Fernando Valley
3-03. My father is again living with us at this writing (5-06)
Our triad became a quadrad as Laura Fiechter joined
us in a formal handfasting Thanksgiving Weekend 2005 at
LosCon. She, too, wears the white gold and sapphire ring
of what is now Clan Brussel. Laura lives in our home and
has her own room and bath. We are again experiencing
that frustrating, fascinating shakedown as we fit ourselves
together for the long haul.
Sleeping arrangements are fluid though the four of us
frequently sleep together in our big bed in the master
bedroom which has its own Jacuzzi (in addition to the much
larger outdoor one). Both master bed room and living room
have fire places�cozy and romantic.
We are Living the Dream!!!
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FOR ALL EVENTS PLEASE RSVP THE LTD HOT LINE:
818-886-0069.
LOCATION OF ALL EVENTS UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED:
8515 PENFIELD AVE. IN WINNETKA (ZIP 91306). NEAR CHASE AND WINNETKA.
FREEWAY OFF RAMPS: WINNETKA OFF 101, ROSCOE OFF
405, TAMPA OFF 118
THOMAS BROS. LOS ANGELES MAP PAGE 530 E1 (that's E ONE)
Where jacuzzi is mentioned, bring towel and sandals.
Jacuzzi is clothing optional.
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