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LTD Newsletter - March-April 2005

Saturday, March 19, 2005
Pair Bonded or Poly?
Also:
Steve Barnes 5 Minute Miracle

March 19 11 am to 4 pm Pair Bonded or Poly? Can You Be Both?
Anthropologist Leanna Wolfe, the author of Women Who May Never Marry as well as several poly oriented magazine articles and video presentations, leads a discussion on New Relationship Energy.
Do we have a biological imperative to bond only with one person at a time? Is the poly lifestyle a swim upstream against this “instinct” or is it how at least some of us are meant to be? Bring your ideas and any supporting anecdotes, articles, etc. for either side of this debate! Pot Luck lunch. Bring something delicious and healthy to share.
3-4 pm Well known science fiction author Steve Barnes joins us. His books Lion’s Blood and Zulu’s Heart feature some unusual alternate history/alternative life styles options in a world where the Irish were brought to America as slaves to the Africans.
Steve also brings us the 5 Minute Miracle–mind/body/spirit alignment through controlled breath and exercise. Steve is a Tai Chi black belt, among his other achievements. Come dressed comfortably to join us for this activity.

Saturday, April 16
Poly Dating in the 21st Century

Poly Dating in the 21st Century: Find Your Mate(s) on the World Wide Web
Computer veteran Harold Goldstein shows us how to find poly events and poly personals on the Internet. If you have a laptop with wireless connection to the Internet, bring it to follow along as we surf to a number of poly sites. Pot luck lunch–bring something healthy and delicious to share.. How do you narrow your Google search for‘Polyamory ” down from the 200,000+hits to what you are looking for in your area? Tired of surfing alone to too many dead ends? Getting SPAMMED out of too many user groups? Then come along and find the real sites amongst all the chaff. If you have a laptop with wireless connection, bring it to follow along as we surf to a number of poly sites.
Potluck lunch –bring something healthy and delicious to share.
Af t e r noon a c t i v i t y :We ’l l e x pe r i me nt wi t h q u a l i t y quantifiers for making your life and the lives of anyone
who connects with you WONDERFUL. See article below. Jacuzzi available all day.

Saturday, April 23
LTD Annual Passover Celebration

Saturday April 23rd 7-10 pm
LTD Annual Passover Celebration
Call TERRY to RSVP BEFORE 4-17-04 Please at LTD HOTLINE # 818-886-0069 (EXT. 3) to arrange WHAT to bring for the Seder or to attend without a food contribution. We need time to plan things and shop for supplies.
This is a Celebration of Freedom! This holiday commemorates the first time one People (the Jews) freed itself from bondage to another People (the Egyptians). Brian Gitt and Paul Brussel Gibbons will lead the Seder this year. There will be plenty of group participation. You don't have to read Hebrew to attend this or even be Jewish. Whether you want to learn more about your own heritage, just share this special holiday with those you care about, or discover a cultural experience new to you, you are welcome!
This is a coordinated potluck since it requires special foods.

This event is FREE to one Clean Up Coordinator, one Serving Coordinator, and the single or couple who volunteers to bring 5 pounds of cooked lamb or 10 pounds of cooked chicken. (Call to coordinate)

Cost: $7.50 with arranged food contribution and one bottle of Kosher wine for each adult in your party, one bottle of Kosher grape juice for each child or non drinker. $18 each without food/beverage contribution.

Children under thirteen free with food, $7 without.

Location of all above events: 8515 Penfield in Winnetka.

May 13-14 7 pm –Live the Dream
Birthday Celebration/Conrad Stargard Cross-time Engineer Time Travel-Toga Party

Come on out for the weekend & Celebrate a number of May Birthdays. We will watch various time travel movies on the 52 ” screen,discuss the Poly aspects in the Cross-Time Engineer and other time travel stories, eat exotic potluck food (bring your favorite time period’s treats for Friday dinner and for Saturday lunch, we will supply breakfast) and enjoy the Jacuzzi in proper Roman fashion at this sleepover birthday fest for Marcus & Harold (and any other May Birthday people, speak up and let us know who you are!)
RSVP ’s Required!
Call the LTD hotline at 818-886-0069

Loving More Conference
May 20-23 2005 in Willits, Ca.

Phone:303-543-7540 Web site: www.lovemore.com Meet poly people from all over the West Coast! Learn about how others live this lifestyle and share some joy with kindred spirits. Live the Dream presents Bisexual Triad Building a Group Marriage Terry and Paul Brussel Gibbons and their handfasted (since 6-01) partner Marcus Brussel Jenkins have been involved in the polyamourous lifestyle of multiply committed relationships since their earliest romantic relationships. They will share how each of them discovered that they are bisexual and poly. They will discuss how this has affected their experiences in relating to each other and to outside lovers (together and separately). How does being Bi and/or
poly effect our ability to bring special people closer? They will also discuss future goals for building a larger group marriage-the kind described in Heinlein's Moon is a Harsh Mistress and Time Enough for Love. Yes-they are SF fans.

Loving More-A Sample (1997)

Opening circle. Lots of new faces here almost (?) outnumbering the old friends, presenters and poly icons seen each year. The Internet with its poly activity actually is drawing some real people who don't think our lifestyle is a new fantasy game. A lovely woman with an even lovelier voice sings songs which stir the blood and are poly oriented. She sings one about being her whole untamed self rather than "shrinking to
meet your expectations" and wanting her love to be his whole self too...Rough Ride and so it can be. Her other song at opening is written for the poly family she is part of--Ravenheart. I discover this delightful creature is wife and water sib to Morning Glory and Oberon and therefore part
of my own nest. I resolve to grow closer as way opens. Women's circle Saturday morn and someone's in pain because her lover let her sleep alone while exploring someone new. They needed clearer agreements and she needs to work on jealousy. How many times have I heard
this story in 25 years of living this lifestyle? Too many, but each the pain is real and cutting. I find her later to give her the hypnotic tape I created for that--Intimacy Without Jealousy. Couples attending a poly conference or even a party need (preferably written) agreements to keep someone
from getting hurt. Leaving a lover alone who feels abandoned can be as bad if you are poly as if you are not. Consideration and compassion must be combined in an arcane mix with freedom. There is a Family panel which my husband and I share with Ravenheart and other successful multi- adult families. I feel a little inadequate being only a couple. We all field questions, with Ryam moderating, on what works and what does not, who sleeps with whom and when, etc. Some questions are deep and insightful, inviting answers which require thought and careful wording. Most are
asked with an honest curiosity or real need; unlike the conflict seeking of some talk show hosts. The people in this room have either been this road or are ready to travel it and want reliable sign posts along the way. While still a lifestyle of pioneers, we have reached a point where it is
not necessary to reinvent the wheel at every turn. Enough people have been doing it long enough to have developed some workable rules which are being shared in this panel and others being presented during the weekend.
Articles in Loving More (call phone number above or go to web site to subscribe-still available 2005) magazine as well as Green Egg (Pagan magazine no longer available 2005) and in Ryam Neering's Polyfidelity Primer and Deborah Anapol's Love Without Limits provide many well worked out reliable guide posts to joy in poly relationships.

WORLD POLYAMOURY CONVENTION IS 6-17 T0 6-19-05 AT HARBIN HOT SPRINGS. WE'LL BE PRESENTING THERE TOO! SEE INFO IN JUNE NEWS LETTER
Contact info: www.worldpolyamoryassociation.com or call 808-244-4103

Other Polyamory events this month (not run by Live the Dream )

Leanna Wolfe is hosting 3 Polyamory Salons this Month:
April 3rd 2-4 pm Overview: Polyamory 101
April 9th 2-4 pm Polyamory, Jealousy & Romantic Love
April 30th 2-4 pm Polyamory and Sexuality

International Polyamory Meetup day is 8PM the 2nd Tuesday of the month. Go to www.meetup.com or http://polyamory.meetup.com and do a search for your nearest location. The San Fernando Valley location is the Starbuck’s at Reseda &Devonshire.

Creating Joy in Your Life and Your Relationships

It is Saturday night. David and his significant other (Mary) have planned an evening at home with a delightful lady they have been seeing for some time and really care for (Andrea). Mary is envisioning quiet music and soft caresses all around, and feeding each other the finger foods she has lovingly prepared in a nonverbal tribal feast style. She has made dinner light and delicious. David is daydreaming about being attacked by two passionate women who can't get enough of him with hard rock music adding to the excitement. Andrea is really looking forward to a chance for deep discussion about this relationship. She wants to make some decisions about where to go from here with it.

David gets home, gives Mary a rough passionate kiss and goes looking for his Nine Inch Nails CD. Andrea arrives and is told by Mary of her lovely surprise night of QUIET romance. Somehow this event does not turn out too well.

Unrealistic? Maybe. This case of crossed purposes could have been remedied by a little discussion before hand as to what each participant wanted from the evening. Perhaps three separate evenings should have been calendared to give everyone what they wanted, with the parameters agreed upon in advance for each one of them. Each person could have been given an evening to plan with the agreement that it would be a surprise--please hold expectations in suspense.

If you think of it as an exciting adventure in pleasing the one person you know you'll be spending the rest of your life with, it could be more marvelous than you ever expected. If, on another occasion, you decide to get someone to join you for the evening, you'll at least have an idea of what it takes for you to have fun. Call people you know would enjoy that kind of evening until you find one who is available in the near future and make a date for it.

If what you want is simply to spend the evening with a particular person, find out what this person's parameters might be for a wonderful evening. Have fun making an impromptu list together and surprise your friend with one or more of those things.

This could lead to more than friendship if that is what you're aiming for. How many people have bothered to do this with him or her before? Ever wished you had an edge in getting someone special to be willing to spend time with you? You've got it now!

Each of these people could make a list of a variety of things they could enjoy during an evening together and what they would really not enjoy. The lists could be shared. The person doing the planning or all of you together could then create experiences that would work from a selection of possibilities.

If something on one person's list of special delights is a turnoff for one of the others, it could either be shared with the one it is not a turnoff for separately or ways could be found to make something previously neutral or even unpleasant a lot more interesting. It’s not what you do that matters as much as how you choose to react to it.

This works for an evening alone with your primary partner at least as well as for poly dates. Taking the time to find out what both of you enjoy, really looking into yourselves to discover your innermost desires (in bed and out) then sharing the information, will make that relationship more intimate and more joyous than ever before. You'll both have more fun together. As a poly bonus, a couple who really love each other and show it, attract more of the right kinds of additional loves than do the couple who growl at each other or just seem bored. Which kind would you want to be around?

Not in a relationship right now? You can still figure out what it takes for you to have a great evening alone or with others. Make the list. Choose something on it you can create and calendar it. Make it something that does not require a lover if there isn't one easily accessible right now. Choose from the possible, then go for it! You could have a great time even by yourself if you plan it right--not just the activities, but your attitude toward them. If you think of this as a booby prize for what you really wanted, you could create a miserable time for yourself.

 

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