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16/07/2001 18:56 CEST
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Democracy
From:
Moonraker the Merciless of Ringwood
, 15/07/2001 20:17
Just a quick note to remind everyone that this galaxy is a democracy,if you want to vote for me or anyone else for GC in the affairs section,feel free to do so,there is no reason why everyone should not have their say.On a similiar point I will take this opportunity to say I disaprove of Odin calling himself 'Staff' on the overview screen and using that briefing box as a way of asking people to vote for him.Things like that have their place on the politics board,and that is where I believe they should stay.
PS-I have 5 votes as of 7.16 GMT,any support in my run for GC would be appreciated.
From:
Jennos Idian of Korellia
, 15/07/2001 21:11
Actually it was the ever loved Jenos that posted that request, when odin updated it he changed it from -MoW to -Staff.
From:
Moonraker the Merciless of Ringwood
, 15/07/2001 21:28
Either way its not right or fair to use the overview place as a political forum.
Moonraker
From:
WarpMaster of Warp-a-zon
, 15/07/2001 21:41
People should be able to choose for themselves who to vote for.
From:
Gadalf_The_Grey of Mid Earth
, 15/07/2001 22:17
Ringwood. Listen, you seem to have this craving for power. First you accused this governemnt of false corruption. You fail. Second, you run for the position of MOW and lose in a fair way. Now you're trying to change the governemnt at the END OF THE ROUND. We have a few weeks left at most. Has the government not done a good enough job for you? We tried to defend you as many times as you got attacked but it was near impossible. We can't defend everyone all of the time. Also, you must have some very good reason as to why you want to be GC. What would you change? Just make a suggestion! We'll try anything out that makes sense. Bottom, this governemnt has worked pretty well this round, so why screw with a good thing?
From:
Dark Reaver of Galactic Rift
, 15/07/2001 23:12
if people are not happy with the government in this galaxy then its clear that it has not been working as well as you claim, the fact that if odin loses a single vote more he will be dislodged from power emphasises the fact that people are not happy and it is time for a change, if this is true democracy then we are allowed to voice our opinions as we please and direct our support behind whoever we wish to lead us as GC.
From:
Emperor Odin of Sullust
, 15/07/2001 23:21
Simple he is power hungery, He was always angry at me for getting the job of GC at the beginning of the round. I remember him demanding a ministry position and when I refused to just let anyone into a ministry area he became really angery. I changed the message as For some reason I think my staff likes me. Now that is a message from us, I would like people to vote for me. It would be if I mailed people asking them to vote a certain way. Same thing.
Seeing how you have never wanted to be a member of this gal I have a few problems with you. Where are you defence, last time I saw my alliance has continously protected you. Ask 147:22:2, he lost many ships at your planet. Then all the defense we have given you but you have only defended once that I can see. I have seen your ships run when we heavily outnumbered the attackers to. Now were are your allies when you got attacked?
Further more, I'll say this you have made me a little angry first off if I see you swear again I will report it on site (that goes to everyone). Now if your interested in becoming the GC state exactly why that is so. I don't see how telling people to vote for you with out reason will help, I have shown myself as someone who defends others, I listen to what others say, and further more I don't accuse people of things when it isn't true.
From:
Moonraker the Merciless of Ringwood
, 15/07/2001 23:41
As Reaver said this is a democracy.I do not have the time or inclination to repute your accusations.However good which you all the best of luck in reporting people to PA crew for swearing,obviosly you now see yourself as a vigilante as well as a member of Staff.
Moonraker
PS-I can not be bothered to list the reasons why I wish to be GC for you to rubbish and report to Staff(yourself?).
From:
Emperor Odin of Sullust
, 15/07/2001 23:49
In the rules it says don't say anything offensive. I'm sorry to find a person swearing offensive, but I do, I don't like it, sorry it goes against my values to swear.
I still feel in an election for a position of power such as GC you should state why you want the position.
From:
Moonraker the Merciless of Ringwood
, 15/07/2001 23:50
lol,i'm not running an election campaign mate.People are simply showing their opinions through voting,thats what a democracy is all about.
From:
Emperor Odin of Sullust
, 16/07/2001 00:02
Sorry I just wouldn't vote for somebody if I didn't know why they wanted to be GC and why they think they could do it as a better job then the current one. I think it is a simple courtasy.
From:
Moonraker the Merciless of Ringwood
, 16/07/2001 00:06
Thats nice.I value your opinion.Thats democratic you know.Unlike using the infomation screen to influence voting.Have a nice day.
From:
Emperor Odin of Sullust
, 16/07/2001 04:04
Yay I also value other opion, however I would really value somebody who actually defends people in their own galaxy. For some reason I just had to bring that up.
Sorry if I don't exactly know, but how does me asking people to vote for me on the overview screen make me into a dictator. I'm not forcing their vote I'm asking for it. Oh by the way the screen is message from the commander, as I'm the commander I'm allowed to give a message that I want. However I still don't see how that makes people vote for me. If you could explain that I would appreciate it greatly.
From:
El Guapo of Santa Damiana
, 16/07/2001 04:21
you sir, are being an &$#hole.
lets see here on the ideas list:
a) completely disrupt galaxy
b) be a stupid moron
c) try and take advantage of newbie gov't members
d) piss off larger planets
wow I have had a full day
From:
El Guapo of Santa Damiana
, 16/07/2001 04:21
you sir, are being an &$#hole.
lets see here on the ideas list:
a) completely disrupt galaxy
b) be a stupid moron
c) try and take advantage of newbie gov't members
d) piss off larger planets
wow I have had a full day
From:
Emperor Odin of Sullust
, 16/07/2001 06:08
watch the language, please.
From:
Jennos Idian of Korellia
, 16/07/2001 06:20
even if there is a good reason, and I will not allow odin to take the blame for the vote request. It was I who put it up.
From:
WarpMaster of Warp-a-zon
, 16/07/2001 06:29
I am proud that you admited it.
From:
Jennos Idian of Korellia
, 16/07/2001 06:35
From:
Emperor Odin of Sullust
, 16/07/2001 06:36
Thanks.
From:
Jennos Idian of Korellia
, 16/07/2001 07:14
I would also like to point out that Odin has LOST only 4 votes, and they didn't all vote for you ringwood. other votes have been gained from the new players who don't realize what we have done for this Gal
From:
elWiZ of Deliria
, 16/07/2001 10:39
Moonraker:
Oh, and even if Odin loses another two votes, you still need a s##tload of votes to become GC...
From:
Moonraker the Merciless of Ringwood
, 16/07/2001 13:10
Yup.If you want change please go to the Affairs screen and vote for me,mail me with any questions you may have.
Moonraker
From:
Moonraker the Merciless of Ringwood
, 16/07/2001 13:10
If you want change please go to the Affairs screen and vote for me,mail me with any questions you may have.
Moonraker
From:
Runemaster of Urban Bohemia
, 16/07/2001 14:20
I know that I am new to this galaxy but i think that Moonraker is right in the fact that odin is using his advantage as GC unfairly to brainwash people into voting for him. but i also believe that though moonraker has a point there is no point of messing around in politics this late in the round so why doesnt everyone stop this petty arguement and in the next round start srambling for power!
From:
Wes Janson of Derra V
, 16/07/2001 15:40
To put this to rest I was in a crappy gal that no one helped each other with, every one was on their own, and my gal faced this same problem. So I came here to be in a good gal where help was just a click away! but RingWood, u are a moron! many a time have we all came to help u! and now u want to change the gov! u sir are dumb in my book so I will not deen to any more of your baseless acutions of a corrupt gov. Also Odin being GC has done many things for this gal. My vote still stays for odin.
From:
elWiZ of Deliria
, 16/07/2001 15:44
So does mine, as from the beginning of this round.
Long live Odin!
From:
Dark Reaver of Galactic Rift
, 16/07/2001 17:06
*sighs* i see El Guapo of Santa Damiana has been learning some rude words and of course being as childish as he is would rather use them against moonraker than a structured political argument, this conversation has rapidly degenerated from a political debate into a name calling match which is hardly worth commenting on, please explain to me exactly what are odins strengths and what he has done for our galaxy and then i will give a counter-argument, ok kiddies?
From:
Emperor Odin of Sullust
, 16/07/2001 17:57
If you can't see it for yourself.
1.I have brought to the galaxy many allies (look at the banner for 2 major ones) I might ad that xwa only supports galaxies that have one of it members leading it.
2.Look at defense, I have arranged a lot of it. (so has Jenos)
3.I have let people have a say in the galaxy, I let them pick the MoW I didn't say a word to who I wanted so I could affect their vote.
4.I have set in place rules that keep out farms (the galaxy hated the first one), and keep up defense.
5.The taxes are extremely small, and easy to keep up with.
Oh Dark Reaver I asked Ringwood to do the same thing but he refuses.
Runemaster:If you and others don't like the message I will remove it at once. (I have only seen one complaint, I can't read minds if there are any problems message me and I will deal with them)
From:
Gadalf_The_Grey of Mid Earth
, 16/07/2001 18:28
You still don't haven't said what you would do if you became GC. And why not? Because you can't come up with any.
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