LIMPSFIELD PARISH COUNCIL

Minutes of the Meeting held on Tuesday, 6 September 2005,
 in the school hall, Limpsfield CE Infant School, Limpsfield at
7.30 pm

 

 

PRESENT:        Chairman          Mrs A Williams (AW)

                        Councillors        Mr B Alexander (BA), Mrs S Bryant (SB), Mrs R Harris (RH),

Mrs C Heijmer (CH), Mr D Marnham (DM), Mr C Walker (CW),
Mrs L Wingate

 

In attendance:    Clerk                 Mrs G Cannon

 

 

1.0  APOLOGIES

 

Apologies were received from Mr John Pannett.

 

2.0  MINUTES 

 

The minutes of the previous meeting were approved and signed as a true record.


3.0  MATTERS ARISING

 

Minute 6.0  Correspondence: 

·       Consultation into BT’s proposals to re-align payphone provision:  The Clerk has confirmed that it is BT’s intention to convert the payphone in High Street, Limpsfield, (near the Church) to a cashless facility.  All other payphones remain unchanged.   The ability to dial the emergency services will not be affected by this conversion.

 

·       TDC letter re Licensing Act 2003:  the Clerk received confirmation from TDC’s Licensing Unit that licence conversions had already been granted for The Carpenters Arms. Limpsfield Lawn Tennis Club, Limpsfield Chart Golf Club and Limpsfield Cricket Club.  The deadline for representations on the application by the Limpsfield British Legion had also been missed.  The Clerk was authorised by AW and BA to object to an application by the Bull PH to extend its licensing hours, the deadline for comment being 28 August 2005.  This application should now go to Sub-Committee for consideration (see Chairman’s correspondence below).

 

 

4.0  PUBLIC SESSION

 

Mark Richards notified the Clerk that he was unable to attend the meeting but had nothing to report regarding Limpsfield Common.

 

The Chairman welcomed 10 members of the public to the meeting.

 

Mr and Mrs Walden expressed their concern about the speed of vehicles travelling along Titsey Road between the bend at the junction with Bluehouse Lane and the following bend.  The 30 mph speed roundel painted on the southbound carriageway has helped reduce the speed of cars coming into the village.  AW agreed that the Council would take the matter up with Surrey Highways to see if measures could be introduced on the northbound side of the road to deter cars from rapidly gaining speed after leaving the first bend.  RH to discuss with Stuart Eastmond.                            Action:  RH

 

Seven residents attended the meeting to express concern about commercial activities at Honeypot Farm.

 

Mrs Charmian Gilbert addressed the meeting on behalf of a number of residents living in the vicinity of Honeypot Farm.  Mrs Gilbert raised seven issues of serious concern to residents and produced photographic evidence of a large screening machine, high earth mounds, and three large pieces of

4.0  Public Session (cont’d)

 

plant operating at the farm.  Mrs Gilbert explained that residents were at a loss to understand how the District Planning Authority could allow the escalation of this business in an Area of Local Landscape Significance and expressed a fear that if action is not taken immediately, the operation will become entrenched and more difficult to manage as has been proven in the past.

 

District Cllr Eric Morgan confirmed that this matter was drawn to his attention four weeks ago and he agreed with the concerns raised.  He has pursued the matter that Mr R Evans, Director of Environmental Protection, who has asked Mr J Lawrence, Director for Planning Enforcement, to carry out a thorough investigation.

 

There was some discussion about the outcome of a Public Inquiry held in October 1999 and in May 2000 into associated appeals and a planning application made by Mr D A Withers in connection with proposals at Honeypot Farm.  The Chairman understood from the correspondence that the planning appeal granted was an exception to Green Belt policy and was for the retention of a building (for screening, drying, mixing, bagging and storage of topsoil and loam) only. 

 

Mr J Gilbert pointed out that as far as he was aware every planning permission on the site was granted retrospectively, including the original permission back in 1985, which was believed to be for Mr Withers personally for a quasi-agricultural use only.  This was meant to be very carefully monitored by Tandridge District Council.   The appeal for the retention of a building was granted in order that the screening machine would be located inside the building to protect neighbours from noise and dust.  More vehicles appear to be in use than are allowed, and the site is dealing with muck away and site clearance resulting in a far greater number of lorry movements than ever before.

 

Mr J Barratt stated that the environmental impact of these activities also affects residents living in the neighbouring authority and suggested informing Edenbridge Town Council.

 

Mr Hawkins who lives at the back of the site stated that there was no protection between his property and the site and that the noise disturbance from the concrete going through the screening machine was appalling.

 

The Chairman assured residents that they had the full support of the Parish Council who would be writing to Mr Evans to draw his attention to the issues raised.                                                                       Action:  Clerk

 

 

5.0    COUNTY & DISTRICT COUNCILLOR REPORTS 

The Chairman welcomed District Councillor Eric Morgan to the meeting.  Cllr Morgan reported on the new refuse contract that had just been signed off and will commence on 3 October.  The District Council has recently agreed in principle with Surrey Highways that it will manage and run the decriminalised parking enforcement system.  Scheduled start date is October 2006, once the scheme has been approved by the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister and then Parliament.  The new licensing responsibilities are likely to be a huge burden on the District Council which is determining licence conversions on an almost daily basis at the moment.  BA expressed concern that TDC had not come up with an “across the board” licensing hours’ policy for the District in the same way that some other councils seem to have done.  Cllr Morgan was unable to comment.

 

The Chairman thanked Cllr Morgan for his report.


6.0  CHAIRMAN’S REPORT (including correspondence)


Corrrespondence:

·         TDC – Notice of Licensing Sub-Committee Hearing to hear the application to vary the premises licence of The Bull Inn, Limpsfield, at 2.30 pm on 14 September 2005 at the Council Offices, Oxted.

·         Local Works – campaign for the Sustainable Communities Bill (AW)


 

6.0  Chairman’s report (cont’d)


·         TDC – Planning Enforcement Guidelines – public consultation.  Invitation for two delegates to attend a seminar for all parish councils in the Council Chamber on Monday, 19 September, at 7.30pm.     Action:  AW/CH

·         TDC – invitation to a Telecoms workshop in the Council Chamber on Tuesday, 29 November 2005 from 7.30 pm to 9.30 pm.                                                                                                           

·         TDC – invitation to the World’s Biggest Coffee Morning on Friday, 30 September 2005, between 10 am and 12 noon at the Council Offices.

·         SCA – invitation to a Rural Community Information Workshop to be held at Bletchingley Village Hall on Thursday, 6 October 2005 from 7.00 pm – 9.00 pm.  Decline.

·         English Rural Housing Association – invitation to attend the opening of a new scheme at Westonfields, Albury, Surrey on Thursday, 13 October 2005 at 2.00 pm.  Decline.

·         Surrey Infrastructure Development Consortium – invitation to attend an update at Leatherhead Leisure Centre on 6 October, 9.30 am to 12.30 pm.  Unclear agenda.

·         LCAS – newsletter no 26 September 2005.

·         Kent County Council – invitation to participate in an online consultation re the Kent Minerals and Waste Development Framework.  JP.

·         TDC Local Development Framework – final consultation into the revised Statement of Community Involvement that has been submitted to the Secretary of State for an examination into its “soundness”.  Representations by 6 October.  No further comments considered necessary.

 

7.0  PARISH COUNCILLORS’ REPORTS

7.1  Parish Plan Committee

 

CW agreed to work with Philip Thomas on the lottery funding application.  If the bid is made in the Parish Council’s name, consideration will need to be given to the correct accounting procedures to adopt should the bid be successful.

 

7.2  Playground Committee

A reply has been received from the National Trust in respect of the alternative playground site.  The Trust can see no reason why the playground should not proceed in the revised location, but suggests that the actual location is agreed with Andy Wright and Mark Richards.  DM to set up a meeting with Mark Richards, Andy Wright and the Playground Association.

 

7.3  Rights of Way

SCC has served notice with regard to the diversion of Public Footpath No 210.  A copy of both the Notice and the Order have been received.

 

Bridleway 54:  letter from Mr Grantham highlighting that the bridleway is again overgrown and unattended.  Having inspected the site, DM did not agree that clearance work was needed at present.

 

FP 78a kissing gate:  Phillipa Gates has agreed to inspect the gate and will arrange repair as necessary.

 

FP 219  Dwelly Lane:  Phillipa Gates has agreed to request the Golf Club to clear the footpath.  The vegetation obstructing other parts of the path is not a crop and the farmer cannot, therefore, be requested to cut it back.

 

BA declared an interest in the following discussion:

FP 56 Tenchleys Park:  DM reported that he had been advised that a section of FP 56 leading from the Kent Hatch Road towards Tenchleys Park had been cleared to form a wide track without the permission of The National Trust who owns the land.  The National Trust immediately put a stop to the work.  DM has given concerned residents an undertaking that he will monitor the situation closely in

7.3  Rights of Way (cont’d)

 

order to prevent other sections of the footpath not owned by the National Trust from being similarly cut back. 

 

Footpath numbering:  CH was advised by Surrey Highways that it was not cost effective to include footpath numbers on footpath signs. Replacement signs would have to be pre-ordered if they were individually numbered.  



7.4  Planning

Honeypot Farm:  Residents’ concerns about the level of activity by United Grab Hire Ltd at Honeypot Farm and the application for a Goods Vehicle Licence were minuted at the August meeting.  The application for a vehicle licence was refused at the hearing on 16 August at the Eastbourne Traffic Area Office on the grounds that the applicant had only inserted a Public Notice in the County Border News free paper which is not delivered to households in the vicinity of the operating centre.  The applicant has been advised to re-apply and to insert a notice in the Public Notices section of the Surrey Mirror.  Statutory consultees and other affected parties will have 21 days from the publication date of the advertisement to make representations to the Traffic Commissioner, but must copy the applicant at the same time. 

 

The Clerk has written to Mr Evans expressing the Council’s concerns about operations taking place at Honeypot Farm and asking for the District Council to support Surrey County Council’s objections to the granting of a Goods Vehicle Licence for the operator to run 4 vehicles of up to 32 tonnes out of this site.  John Lawrence has advised that a site meeting is being arranged in the next 7 to 10 days (from the date of this meeting).

 

District Cllr Morgan expressed a view that this was not an issue on which the District Council had competence to comment but after it was pointed out that the District Council was a statutory consultee and that residents had written to the District Council expressing their concerns, Cllr Morgan agreed to look into the matter.

After some discussion about the lack of support from the District Council, it was unanimously resolved that the Clerk should write to The Chairman of the Development Control Committee to request that this matter be discussed with the Officers.

 

Hillview Farm:  an application for a Goods Vehicle Licence has been made by D M Godfrey trading as Bywood Pet Supplies at Hillview Farm.  BA and CW authorised the Clerk to make representations to the Traffic Commissioner on the grounds that the narrow lanes leading to the farm are totally unsuited to HGV traffic.  A copy of the objection was sent to the applicant.  Mr Godfrey has since contacted the Clerk to explain that his application is for a box van of up to seven and a half tonnes for his personal use only and he is willing to ask for a restriction on the application to reflect this.  In spite of these assurances, Members unanimously resolved that their objection still stood.

 

Boulthurst Farm:  the drawing and planning conditions requested have now been received from Tandridge District Council.  Members could see nothing in the permission that would allow the premises to operate as a retail sales outlet.  It was agreed that the Clerk should write to Mr Evans to seek clarification as to why such a significant part of the business appears to be based on retail sales.                                                                                                 Action:  Clerk

 

Correspondence:

·         TDC – Invitation to a seminar to introduce innovative new e-planning service on Monday,
17 October at
7.00 pm in the Council Chamber.  Two representatives only.  Post meeting note: 3 representatives may attend.                                   Action: AW/CH/Clerk

·         TDC – Draft Planning Enforcement Guidelines for Public Consultation.  Comments by 21 October 2005.

·         Letter from Mr P Wilcox, Brassey Road, making additional observations regarding the Tetra Mast at Oxted Fire Station. 

 

7.4  Planning (cont’d)

 

Planning Application Lists No 32, 33, 34 & 35

 

Objections to

 

TA/2003/938/A2  UNIT 1 & 2, BOULTHURST FARM, PAINS HILL, LIMPSFIELD VARIATION OF CONDITION 4 OF PERMISSION 2003/938 DATED 14 AUGUST 2003 TO ALLOW USE OF EDUCATIONAL ART STUDIO FOR THREE SUNDAYS ANUALLY BETWEEN MAY & SEPTEMBER FOR OPEN DAYS.  Object to variations to existing conditions until the situation regarding activities taking place has been clarifield.

 

BA telephoned the Clerk to declare an interest in the following application which was determined by CH prior to the September meeting

TA/2005/1135  LANGSHAW, PASTENS ROAD, LIMPSFIELD

DEMOLITION OF EXISTING GARAGE,STORES AND SHED. ERECTION OF DETACHED TRIPLE GARAGE AND WOOD STORE.  Object on the grounds that it is too large and out of keeping in the Green Belt, also un-neighbourly and taking light away from the adjoining neighbour.  It would exceed the 25% extension allowed.  Policy RE10.2.

 

TA/2005/1205 HARE HILL COTTAGE, HOOKWOOD PARK, LIMPSFIELD ERECTION OF SINGLE STOREY SIDE EXTENSION & PORCH TO FRONT ELEVATION.  Object that together with a previous extension it would exceed the 25% allowed.  The extension is out of keeing with the Green Belt and changes what was originally a small house into a large one.  Policy RE8.1 and RE8.3.

 

TA/2005/1206 HARE HILL COTTAGE, HOOKWOOD PARK, LIMPSFIELD ERECTION OF 1.8M HIGH FENCE AND 1.1M HIGH GATES TO FRONTAGE.  Object that the fence and gates would be out of keeping with the rural nature of the area and contrary to BE14.1 and 14.2.

 

TA/2004/1464/D  LAND AT, PADBROOK CLOSE, LIMPSFIELD

ERECTION OF DETACHED HOUSE WITH ASSOCIATED ACCESS. (DETAILS PURSUANT TO OUTLINE PERMISSION APPROVED UNDER REFERENCE TA/2004/1464 DATED 22 MARCH 2005).  Object on the grounds that the house does not respect the character and appearance of the locality and is inappropriate to the site in terms of its scale, form and design, particularly with regard to the roof.

 

No objections to

 

TA/2005/1132  BROADWAY COTTAGE, STONESWOOD ROAD, LIMPSFIELD DEMOLITION OF GARAGE & GARDEN STORE. ERECTION OF DETACHED DOUBLE GARAGE.

 

TA/2005/787  ST PETERS CHURCH, HIGH STREET, LIMPSFIELD

RESTORATION OF 'GREEN' TABLE TOMB (APPLICATION FOR LISTED BUILDING CONSENT).

 

TA/2005/1267 CHURCH ACRE, 42 TITSEY ROAD, LIMPSFIELD

ERECTION OF A PAIR OF 1.07M HIGH VEHICULAR ACCESS GATES WITH 1.07M HIGH PEDESTRIAN GATE.

 

TA/2005/1270  7 SNATTS HILL, OXTED

WIDEN VEHICULAR ACCESS BY 2.74M.

 

TA/2005/1282/TPO 14 BRASSEY HILL, LIMPSFIELD

TPO 2, 1993 (T) - REDUCE 1 OAK BY 30%.  REDUCE ANOTHER BY 25-30% AND THIN CROWN BY 15%.   REDUCE LINE OF CONIFERS BY 0.9 - 1.2M.

 

TA/2005/1205 HARE HILL COTTAGE, HOOKWOOD PARK, LIMPSFIELD ERECTION OF SINGLE STOREY SIDE EXTENSION & PORCH TO FRONT ELEVATION (AMENDED PLANS).

 

TA/2005/1277 CAWTE LODGE, 3 BRASSEY CLOSE, LIMPSFIELD

ERECTION OF CONSERVATORY TO REAR ELEVATION

7.4    Planning (cont’d)

 

Planning Approvals

 

TA/2005/723/TPO  The Ridge, Brassey Road, Limpsfield

Permission granted for the removal of 12 trees.  Permission refused for the felling of 4 trees (1 ash, 1 holly, 1 oak and 1 silver birch).

 

TA/2005/870  Wildwood, Westerham Road, Limpsfield

Erection of 1.8M high timber fence linked to brick wall with 2.6M high brick piers & gates.

 

TA/2005/902  Costcutters, 1 & 3 Station Road East, Oxted

Erection of shutters to main entrance of store.

 

TA/2005/954  Spring Cottage, Ridlands Lane, Limpsfield

Demolition of existing utility room & erection of single storey rear extension.

 

TA/2005/967  Pastens Cottage, Pastens Road, Limpsfield

Demolition of existing conservatory & erection of single storey side & rear extensions.

 

Planning Appeal Allowed

 

TA/2004/2005  The Ridge, Brassey Road, Limpsfield

Erection of a two-storey house with garage in a garden plot to the rear of The Ridge.

 

Planning Appeals Dismissed

 

The five planning appeals at 10 Park Road were dismissed on the grounds that they did not make the best use of the land in accordance with Planning Policy Guidance Note 3 which requires greater densities and mix of dwellings on brownfield sites. 

 

TA/2004/1270  10 Park Road, Limpsfield

Three new dwellings in existing residential garden plot

 

TA/2004/1573  10 Park Road, Limpsfield

Six new dwellings in rear garden.

 

TA/2004/1575  10 Park Road, Limpsfield

Five new dwellings in rear garden.

 

TA/2004/2014  10 Park Road, Limpsfield

Six new dwellings in rear garden and replacement dwelling following demolition existing dwelling.

 

TA/2005/532  10 Park Road, Limpsfield

Two new dwellings in rear garden and demolition of chimney to existing dwelling.

 

 

7.5  Highways

 

Saplings in verge near Fire Station on A25:  James Lewis, SCC Highways, will be inspecting the site.

 

B269 Kent Hatch Road crossing:  the buff coloured surface has now been installed but new signs are still awaited.  Clerk to chase.                                                                                                        Action:  Clerk

 

Gateway sign:  Surrey Highways has advised that a decision will be taken on how to progress this issue at the next informal meeting of the Local Committee on 30 September 2005.

 

Speed detection recorder for Limpsfield High Street:  the Clerk has chased Surrey Police who have indicated that the recorder may be installed in the next 3 to 4 weeks.

7.5  Highways (cont’d)

 

Memorial Stores crossover:  SCC Highways has agreed to contribute half the construction costs.  Dependent on size of crossover, costs vary from £650 to £5000, but probably no more than £1000.  Each is individually measured and quoted.  Highways will forward planning forms and crossover forms for completion.

 

Bluehouse Lane speeding & verges:  CW requested and was given the Parish Council’s permission to deal with the issues raised by Mr Stone in his capacity as District Councillor.

 

 

7.6  Publicity

 

There was nothing to report.

 

7.7  Trees  & Parish Property

 

There was nothing to report.

 

 

8.0  REPORTS FROM REPRESENTATIVES ON OUTSIDE BODIES

 

8.1  Limpsfield Common

There was nothing to report.

 

8.2  Limpsfield School

 

There was nothing to report.

 

8.3  Police Community Partnership Group

 

The next meeting of the PCPG is being held at St Peter’s Hall on 18 October 2005 at 8.00 pm.

 

 

9.0  FINANCE

 

9.1  To approve last quarter internal audit

 

The first quarter internal audit was approved and signed by David Marnham, Finance Committee Member and Gill Cannon, Responsible Financial Officer, prior to the meeting.


9.2  Data Protection renewal request

 

Resolved:  to renew the Parish Council’s Data Protection register entry.  Renewal fee £35.00.

 

9.3  Grants:     

 

DM reported that grants requests had so far been received from Master Park Management Committee, Age Concern, Oxted CAB and Surrey Crimestoppers.  Copies of annual accounts were received from all applicants except Surrey Crimestoppers.  DM gave a thorough report on the merits of each application and suggested that in determining the allocation of grants, Members should consider the direct benefits that would be gained by the inhabitants of the parish from those grants together with the current financial position of the applicants.  After some discussion, it was unanimously resolved to grant the following sums:  Master Park Management Committee £200; Age Concern £200; Oxted CAB £100; Surrey Crimestoppers £40.

                       

 

                                               

9.3  Accounts for Payment

 

·         Clerk’s salary                                                                                      £410.42

·         Clerk’s expenses & broadband (chq 308)                                                 £22.34

·         Seeboard DD (14 June 2005)*                                                                   £6.84

·         St Peter’s Hall (hall hire 9 August)(chq309)                                              £18.00

·         Old Oxted Landscapers (grass cuts x 2) (chq 310)                                  £112.00

·         Data Protection entry fee (chq 311)                                                         £35.00

·         Master Park Management Committee grant under s137 LGA(chq 312)      £200.00

·         Age Concern grant under s137 LGA (chq 313)                                        £200.00

·         Oxted CAB grant under s142 LGA (chq 314)                                          £100.00

·         Surrey Crimestoppers grant under s142 LGA (Chq 315)                             £40.00

 

*  Omitted from July minutes

 

 

10.0  ANY OTHER BUSINESS

It was agreed to hold the Annual Parish Meeting on Wednesday, 15 March 2006.  (Oxted PC meeting is on 29 March).  It was agreed to invite Dr R Spiller to speak at the meeting about health services in Limpsfield and Oxted.  Action:  Clerk


11.0  DATE OF NEXT MEETING

The next meeting will be held on Tuesday, 4 October 2005, in the School Hall, Limpsfield CE Infant School.

 

 

 

The meeting closed at 10.10 pm.

 

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