LIMPSFIELD PARISH COUNCIL
Minutes of
the Meeting held on
in the school hall, Limpsfield CE Infant
School, Limpsfield at
PRESENT: Chairman Mrs A Williams (AW)
Councillors Mr B Alexander (BA), Mrs S Bryant (SB),
Mrs R Harris (RH),
Mrs
C Heijmer (CH), Mr D Marnham (DM),
Mr
J Pannett (JP), Mr C Walker (CW), Mrs L Wingate (LW)
In attendance: Clerk Mrs
G Cannon
1.0 APOLOGIES
There were
no apologies received.
2.0 MINUTES
The minutes of
the previous meeting were approved and signed subject to noting that Mrs S
Bryant had been recorded as both present at and absent from the meeting. Mrs Bryant was not present at the meeting.
3.0 MATTERS ARISING
JP reported on the Surrey Waste
Preferred Plan. JP clarified that the
Surrey Minerals Waste and Development Framework comprised three parts, the
Surrey Minerals Structure Plan, on which he has already responded fully on the
three Potential Mineral Zones (PMZs) within the parish of Limpsfield, the
Surrey Waste Plan 2005 and a Statement of Community Involvement which sets out
how Surrey will involve people and organisations in the preparation of the
Framework. JP confirmed that the current
proposals within the Surrey Waste Plan will not directly affect the parish of
Limpsfield. The Statement of Community
Involvement sets out clear guidelines for publicising planning applications in
line with legal requirements dependent on the type of development. Applicants will be encouraged to discuss
proposals with the local authority and organisations such as the Environment
Agency as well as the parish council before submitting a planning application.
JP expressed concern about the
likelihood of future sand extraction from PMZ28. RH confirmed that at a recent site visit to
the Moorhouse Sandpit arranged by Strutt & Parker for local residents, the
land agent had indicated that Titsey Estate would prefer to expand its
operation to land surrounding Westwood Farm to the west of Moorhouse (ie PMZ28)
rather than pursue Watts Hill as a potential site.
JP asked the Clerk to keep on
file
4.0 PUBLIC SESSION
The Chairman welcomed twelve
members of the public to the meeting and established that eleven of those
present had attended the meeting to object to the planning application
submitted in respect of
The Chairman invited CH, Member
for Planning, to address the members of the public. CH reported that an Officer Decision had just
been reached to refuse this application outright by reason of its size, height
and bulk which would be incongruous to the street scene. Moreover it fails to respect the character
and appearance of the locality, the garages and parking to the rear would cause
noise and disturbance to the neighbours and the siting is overpowering,
overbearing and overshadowing for the
4.0 Public session (cont’d)
neighbours. It has also not shown that 10% of the energy
requirements would be from renewable resources.
It contravenes policies BE1 and SE4 of the Local Plan.
The Chairman invited Mr Andrew
Smith to address the meeting. Mr Smith
stated that this was unlikely to be the last application on this site. Estate Agents are now recommending that home
owners sell to developers and articles are appearing in the national newspapers
urging people to capitalise on their assets in this way with very few counter
arguments about the damage ensuing development will have on the local
area. Residents feel very strongly that
approval of a development of this nature would set an unwelcome precedent for
the rest of
The Chairman thanked the public
for attending the meeting and for the high standard of the letters that had
been sent to the District Council raising valid objections to the development
proposal. A member of the public thanked
the Chairman in return for the excellent letter sent by the Parish Council.
5.0
COUNTY
& DISTRICT COUNCILLOR REPORTS
CW reported that there had been
some problems with the new refuse collection arrangements but that these needed
to be looked at in the context of some 12000 refuse collections a day. Members reported various problems with the
service including very large refuse vehicles reversing down long driveways
where previously smaller vehicles had been sent, cardboard left strewn along
pavements and missed collections. CW remarked
on the cut backs to Surrey County Council’s government grant which was having a
knock-on effect on local authorities’ spending budgets.
6.0 CHAIRMAN’S REPORT (including
correspondence)
Corrrespondence:
·
Dr Spiller has declined the
Parish Council’s invitation to speak at the next Annual Parish Meeting.
·
·
TDC Chief Executive –
correspondence clarifying the requirements of the Licensing Act 2003 (copied to
all Members).
·
East Area Passenger Transport
Forum, Bletchingley Village Hall,
·
SCC – The Surrey Waste Preferred
Plan 2005 for consultation between 31 October and
12 December (see matters arising above).
·
·
7.0 PARISH COUNCILLORS’ REPORTS
7.1 Parish Plan Committee
CW was asked by Philip Thomas to
defer the next meeting until this month.
CW will now arrange for a meeting to take place.
7.2 Playground Committee
DM reported that a further
meeting had been held between DM/CH/BA and the National Trust. A letter had subsequently been sent to the
Trust together with a map of the revised site to which a reply was now awaited,
hopefully to be received within the week.
7.3
Rights
of Way
DM reported further on the
cutting back of vegetation down
There was lengthy discussion
regarding access rights through one of the gates near the end of the lane which
leads on to National Trust land and DM agreed to speak to Andy Wright in this
respect.
The Chairman emphasised that the
Parish Council should only concern itself with the issue of public right of way
and not private land ownership.
7.4 Planning
Honeypot Farm:
Copy of a letter sent by a resident to Tandridge District
Council asking whether United Grab Hire Ltd can formally apply for a Goods
Vehicle Operator’s Licence when they are technically in breach of a condition
attached to the original grant of permission given in 1985, which limits the
use of the site as a topsoil and turfing contractors yard in connection with
the business of D A Withers only. As at
31 October, the resident has not received a reply.
Copy of a letter from Mr R C Shrimplin, Chartered Architect,
to Tandridge District Council, asking for the Council’s formal assurance that
the situation at Honeypot Farm will not be allowed to drift, that the new
occupiers of the site will not be allowed to entrench their position and that
the necessary steps will be initiated by the Council forthwith.
Resolved: to seek clarification from the District Council why a breach
of condition notice cannot be served immediately in respect of change of
ownership and business activity taking place and to press for a response to the
resident’s letter mentioned above. Action:
Clerk
Hillview Farm: letter from the Office of the Traffic Commissioner advising
that the goods vehicle licence application at Hillview Farm has been refused
under section 11 of the Goods Vehicles Act 1995.
Mast at Oxted Fire
Station: copy of Mr Evans reply on behalf of
Mr Weigel to Mr McIntosh-Whyte. Further
letter from Mr McIntosh-Whyte expressing his dismay at the response received
from the District Council. The Chairman
stated that there was little the Parish Council could do given that planning
permission had already been granted and agreed to contact Mr McIntosh-Whyte to
discuss.
Action: AW
Mr Beresford-Knox and the Park Road Residents’ Association.
Broomlands Farm – new
allotment site: JP remarked that the entrance to the
site did not appear to be in the position specified on the plans. Clerk to investigate. A local resident has alerted the Parish
Council to the “travellers” currently using the Westerham car park who may find
the vacated allotment site a prime location to squat. Clerk to notify the District Council of this
potential risk. Post meeting note: the entrance
to the site is as per the planning application submission documents.
Action:
Clerk
Boulthurst Farm: there were concerns about whether Creative Pastimes had
specified the three dates for which it had been granted permission to open on
Sundays during 2006, and whether it was
7.4 Planning (cont’d)
allowed to sell goods to members of the general
public on those days. Clerk to
investigate. Clerk to chase for a
response to the Parish Council’s letter dated 8 September. Action:
Clerk
Planning Interactive
Seminar: AW and the Clerk attended a
presentation at the Council Offices of the new online planning service about to
be launched by the District Council.
This extremely comprehensive service will enable every aspect of a
planning application to be studied in detail including the original submission,
plans, comments submitted by third parties and progress tracking. Planning decisions dating back to 2000 will
be available for viewing on-line, with appeal Decisions dating back to
2004. There are many other features of
the system which can be accessed via the District Council website at www.tandridge.gov.uk.
Planning
Application Lists No 40, 41, 42 & 43
Objections to
TA/2004/1464/D LAND AT PADBROOK CLOSE, LIMPSFIELD
ERECTION OF DETACHED HOUSE WITH
ASSOCIATED ACCESS. (DETAILS PURSUANT TO OUTLINE PERMISSION APPROVED UNDER
REFERENCE TA/2004/1464 DATED
TA/2005/1408 43 GRANVILLE ROAD, LIMPSFIELD
DEMOLITION OF EXISTING DWELLING.
ERECTION OF 2-STOREY BUILDING WITH ADDITIONAL ACCOMODATION IN ROOF TO PROVIDE 7 X 2-BED & 1 X 3-BED FLATS
(TOTAL 8) WITH DETACHED
TA/2005/1437 10 PARK ROAD, LIMPSFIELD
DEMOLITION OF STABLE BLOCK, CHIMNEY
AND CONSERVATORY TO
No objections to
TA/2005/1427 24 TALLY ROAD, LIMPSFIELD CHART
ERECTION OF 2 X 2-STOREY EXTENSIONS
TO NORTH ELEVATION AND SINGLE STOREY EXTENSION TO SOUTH ELEVATION.
TA/2005/1504/TCA WHITE HART COTTAGE, HIGH STREET, LIMPSFIELD
FELL 1 APPLE TREE.
TA/2005/1515/TCA 8 STANHOPES,LIMPSFIELD
REDUCE 1 CHERRY BY 5M. REDUCE 1 CHERRY BY 3.5M.
Planning Refusals
TA/2005/1101 Land rear of 73 Bluehouse Lane, Limpsfield
Erection of detached 3 bed
dwelling with first floor studio and integral double garage served by new
access to
Planning refusals
(cont’d)
TA/2005/1132 Broadway Cottage,
Demolition of garage and garden
store. Erection of detached double
garage.
TA/2005/931 Stoneyshot Barn,
Erection of barn.
TA/2005/1135 Langshaw, Pastens Road, Limpsfield
Demolition of existing garage,
stores and shed. Erection of detached
triple garage and wood store.
TA/2005/1103 Stone Ingle,
Erection of detached garage with room over.
TA/2005/1174 Trevereux Manor,
Trevereux Hill, Limpsfield
Erection of
single storey outbuilding
TA/2005/1205 Hare Hill Cottage,
Erection of single storey side extension and porch to
front elevation.
TA/2005/1158 12 Brassey Hill, Limpsfield
Conversion of attached garage to habitable accommodation
and erection of garage with bedroom over attached to house.
TA/2005/1267 Church
Erection of a pair of 1.17M high vehicular access
gates with 1.17M high pedestrian gate and 1.27M high posts.
TA/2005/1270 7 Snatts Hill, Limpsfield
Widen vehicular access by 2.74M.
TA/225/1277 Cawte Lodge, 3 Brassey Close, Limpsfield
Erection of conservatory to rear elevation.
TA/2005/1282/TPO 14 Brassey Hill, Limpsfield
TPO 2 1993 (T).
Various tree works.
TA/2005/1302/TPO 17 Brassey Hill, Limpsfield
Various tree works.
TA/2005/1377/TCA Land at Limpsfield Tennis Club, corner of
Remove 1 x cupressus and 1 x multi stemmed beech.
TA/2005/787
Restoration of ‘green’ table tomb.
7.5 Highways
Surrey
Highways contact sign should be removed week commencing
7.5 Highways
(cont’d)
Titsey Road speeding:
RH reported that 30 mph speed roundels can only be
painted on the road where it enters a reduced speed limit zone, it cannot be
used on the exit road. Stuart Eastmond
agreed to look into other measures that could be taken. Clerk to notify Mr & Mrs Walden.
Action: Clerk
Action: Clerk
HGVs using
7.6 Publicity
An article has been submitted for
the next editions of the St Peter’s News and Chart News. It was agreed to avoid specifying exact
addresses when referring to planning or other contentious issues in the parish.
7.7 Trees & Parish Property
The Chairman thanked RH for
planting the yew hedging in the area next to the Memorial Stores.
8.0 REPORTS FROM
REPRESENTATIVES ON OUTSIDE BODIES
8.1 Limpsfield Common
Mark Richards asked the Clerk to
report that Limpsfield Common had secured a generous grant towards the bat
shelter community project. He also
confirmed that he had checked that the path on Pebble Hill was cleared of
overhanging vegetation as reported at the last meeting by Mr Bristow. The National Trust is still in discussion
with Surrey Highways regarding improvements to Bridleway 64 and Mark is in the
process of obtaining a new estimate for works.
8.2
There was nothing to report.
8.3 Police Community
Partnership Group
8.3.1 To discuss the
Tandridge Community Speed Watch Scheme
AW reported that the formal launch
of the Community Speed Watch Scheme had been deferred until January 2006. LW remarked that at the recent ESPLG meeting
Cllr Sally Marks had raised concerns about the project.
9.0 FINANCE
9.1 To
approve 2nd quarter internal audit
The Clerk asked for this to be deferred to the December meeting.
9.2 To discuss the Clerk’s overtime hours
DM reported on behalf of the Finance Committee. It was unanimously resolved to pay the
Clerk for the hours worked in excess of her contractual hours including a
deduction for holiday hours (calculated on an annual pro rata basis) for the
six months just ended, April to September 2005.
This amounted to £139.53.
Finance
(cont’d)
9.3 To arrange a meeting of the Finance Committee
to prepare the budget and precept requirement for 2006/07
AW / DM / JP to agree a date and notify the Clerk.
9.4 Accounts for Payment
Resolved: to
the pay the following accounts:
·
Clerk’s salary £410.42
·
Clerk’s broadband expenses (chq 323) £14.00
·
Old Oxted Landscapers (grass cutting) (chq 324) £112.00
·
Clerk’s overtime payment (chq 325) £139.53
10.0
ANNUAL PARISH MEETING PREPARATION
The date
for the Annual Parish Meeting is
11.0
ANY OTHER BUSINESS
RH and JP
reported continued noise nuisance from train horns and requested that a further
letter be sent to Southern Rail. Action: Clerk
LW
reported the intimidating behaviour of youths riding motorised scooters in the
Oxted station car park. The Chairman suggested
informing PC Dan Hazel about the problem in the first instance.
12.0 DATE OF NEXT MEETING
The next meeting
will be held on
Please note that the January meeting
will be held one week later than usual on
The meeting closed at