LIMPSFIELD PARISH COUNCIL

Minutes of the Meeting held on Tuesday, 5 July 2005,

in the Glebe Room, St Peter’s Hall, High Street, Limpsfield at 7.30 pm

 

 

PRESENT:        Chairman          Mrs A Williams (AW)

                        Councillors        Mr B Alexander (BA), Mrs R Harris (RH),

                                                Mrs C Heijmer (CH), Mr D Marnham (DM),

                                                Mr J Pannett (JP), Mr C Walker (CW), Mrs L Wingate (LW)

 

In attendance: Clerk                 Mrs G Cannon

 

1.0  APOLOGIES

 

Apologies were received from Stella Bryant.

 

2.0    MINUTES 

 

The minutes of the previous meeting were approved and signed as a true record.

 

The Clerk requested the Chairman to sign a new set of minutes for the meeting held on 3 May 2005, as the original set had been incorrectly numbered.  No other changes were made.



3.0  MATTERS ARISING

 

There were no matters arising.

 

 

4.0  PUBLIC SESSION

 

The Chairman welcomed Clare Calderwood, Jocelyn Critchett, Angela Howells, and Amanda Masters from the Limpsfield Chart Playground Association, and Ron Bristow and Chris Neal to the meeting.

 

Mr Bristow gave his apologies for being unable to attend the forthcoming Annual Passenger Transport Assembly to be held on 14 July 2005.  He confirmed that he would be sending questions to which he hopes to receive a reply.

 

 

5.0  COUNTY & DISTRICT COUNCILLOR REPORTS 

District Cllr Colin Walker reported on the Community Services Committee meeting at which it was decided to put arrangements in place to enter into an agency agreement with Surrey County Council and to implement an in-house Decriminalised Parking Enforcement service.  CW also reported on the Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Act 2005 which contains a range of measures designed to improve the quality of the local environment.  Some of the new powers will be enacted in June 2005.  The remainder will be subject to new regulations and will be enacted in April 2006, after a period of consultation.  The Planning & Environment Committee discussed the new legislation relating to hedges at length, particularly in regard to the proposed fee payable by the complainant.

 


6.0  CHAIRMAN’S REPORT (including correspondence)

 

Vandalism near St Peter’s Hall, High Street, Limpsfield:  the Clerk reported the vandalism (crime number B/0512025) to PC Hazel who telephoned the Clerk to confirm that extra police patrols had been put in place.

 

Limpsfield in Bloom:  next meeting to be held in the Millennium Room, St Peter’s, Wednesday,
6 July at
7.30 pm.  LW to attend.                                                                  Action:  LW

6.0    Chairman’s report (cont’d)


Corrrespondence:

·         SCC – invitation from the Children and Young People Strategy Unit to attend a workshop aimed at improving services for children to be held at Oxted School on Monday, 27 June from 4.00 pm – 6.00 pm.  Decline – insufficient notice of meeting.

·         SCC – invitation to the Annual Passenger Transport Assembly to be held on 14 July 2005 at the
H G Wells Conference and Events Centre in Woking from 10 am to 1.15 pm.  Decline.

·         TDC – Tomorrow’s Tandridge.  Consultation on the Core Strategy Issues and Options Paper June 2005.  Questionnaires to be completed and returned by 22 July 2005.  AW / CH to meet to prepare a response.       Action:  AW / CH

·         DEFRA – timetable for introduction of Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Act 2005.

·         Surrey Community Action – invitation to attend a rural community information workshop at Bletchingley Village Hall on Monday, 18 July at 6 pm.  Decline.

·         SCC – Tandridge Local Committee – agenda for meeting on Friday, 8 July 2005 at 10.15 am at the Council Offices, Oxted.

 

 

7.0  PARISH COUNCILLORS’ REPORTS

7.1  Parish Plan Committee

 

The next meeting will be held at 57 Park Road, on Wednesday, 20 July, at 8.15 pm.

 

7.2  Playground Committee

The Chairman thanked DM for the excellent report he had circulated to all members prior to the meeting.

 

DM explained that the report addressed the issue of the Parish Council commissioning and operating a playground irrespective of where it might be in the parish.  In his opinion, this is the only feasible way to provide such a facility since the risks associated with it are high.  It is a two stage decision i) to determine whether the Parish Council is prepared to commission and operate a playground and ii) if it is, to prepare a detailed specification for this particular playground, the most important aspect being the location, which would then come back to the Parish Council for its formal consideration.

 

There are also three key areas to consider a) the liability to the Parish Council in terms of i) its financial liability and ii) its reputational liability; b) the financial implications to the Parish Council; c) the amount of work it would involve the Parish Council in.

 

It is vital to ensure that the playground is constructed and maintained in accordance with “best practice”. 

 

DM answered a number of questions from the floor.  The responses are summarised as follows:

 

1.  DM confirmed that the initial indication from the National Trust is that the rent required is likely to be peppercorn.

 

2.  The National Trust has indicated that the Parish Council would have the right to terminate the lease.  Part of the detail would be to obtain draft leases but it is too early to do that yet.

 

3.  As the actual lease is not going to be expensive there would be no point in granting a sub-lease to the Playground Association.  The Parish Council would still have to have overall responsibility for the playground to satisfy the insurer.

4.  The playground will be fenced but not secure.

 

5.  DM believes that a playground of the appropriate standard can be constructed but it must then be maintained at that level.
7.2  Playground Committee (cont’d)

 

6.  There will be an additional insurance premium to cover the equipment.

7.  The amount of safety monitoring required will depend upon the co-operation of Tandridge District Council which has not yet been formally approached.  If TDC is unable to carry out weekly inspections, Councillors and Playground Association members will have to be Rosper trained to do them.

 

8.  DM agreed that the Parish Council should look into the procedure for setting up a formal Sub-committee comprising Parish Councillors and co-opted members of the Playground Association which will become operational once there are some specific proposals for it to consider.

9.  Jocelyn Critchett confirmed that the Playground Association were satisfied that they could raise the sort of money required once the National Trust has given its approval for the scheme.  It is proposed to hold an annual fund raising event to cover ongoing costs.

BA proposed that the Parish Council should support the playground.  A vote was taken and
it was unanimously resolved to support in principle the commissioning and operating of a playground in Limpsfield by Limpsfield Parish Council.

 

It was agreed that DM, BA and CH,  in conjunction with the Playground Association would investigate further the matters highlighted in the report and report back to a subsequent Parish Council meeting.


7.3    Rights of Way

There was nothing to report.


7.4  Planning

Watts Hill Potential Mineral Zone (PMZ):  JP reported on a meeting held by local residents at Limpsfield Golf Club on Monday, 4 July 2005, to discuss the implications of Watts Hill having been identified as a potential site for sand extraction.  This was brought to the attention of Mr M Lidiard, a local landowner, in a letter received from Surrey County Council (SCC) in April 2005.  In addition to JP’s participation at the meeting, residents were also addressed by a gentleman from Grimleys Planning Consultants.

 

JP explained that this is just one of the three sites in Limpsfield identified by SCC for potential sand extraction, to which JP prepared a submission on behalf of the Parish Council last autumn giving detailed reasons why all three sites should not go ahead.  The original consultation highlighted 107 sites for mineral extraction, from which 21 preferred sites were to be put forward for public scrutiny before an inspector was appointed to give his report which would be binding on SCC.  SCC was not proposing to recommend any of the three Limpsfield sites.  It would appear, however, that Titsey Estate, who already operate three sandpits in Limpsfield and two further sandpits just over the Kent border, has expressed a desire to extract sand at Watts Hill and has put forward four highly contentious suggestions for getting sand away from the potentially lucrative site.  JP highlighted the fact that the Titsey Estate, whilst managing the existing sandpits very efficiently, did not have a good record of site restoration once extraction was complete.

 

Residents are extremely concerned that the granting of a mineral licence will seriously blight the land. There appears to be little support so far from Tandridge District Council.  Mr Nick Skellett has expressed a view that it is unlikely to be a suitable site.  The Consultation on the preferred sites is expected to take place between April and June 2006, with the inspector’s report scheduled for November 2006.

 

JP recommended that the residents set up a formal association funded by donations from interested parties.  In answer to a question about land ownership, JP agreed to ask for this to be put on the agenda of the next meeting held by the residents.

 

7.4    Planning (cont’d)

 

BA proposed a vote of thanks to JP for his excellent presentation at the meeting.  

 

Bull PH free standing sign:  the sign that was erected outside the Bull PH in Limpsfield High Street was not part of the planning consent granted under application TA/2005/14 earlier this year.  It has now been removed at the request of TDC.

 

10 Park Road hearing:  there will be a hearing into the five appeals at 10 Park Road on Tuesday, 9 August 2005, at the Council Offices, Oxted, at 2 pm.  AW to study file.                                                     Action:  AW

 

The Ridge, Brassey Road:  the application to remove the blanket TPO and the application to fell 16 trees at this site will be discussed at the next Development Control meeting on Thursday, 7 July 2005.  Post meeting note:  this has been postponed to the next meeting on 22 July 2005.

 

Boulthurst Farm:  District Cllr CW will express the Parish Council’s concerns at the next Development Control Committee meeting that activities are taking place at the converted barn other than the teaching classes for which planning permission was granted and in particular retail sales as observed by Members of the Council on visits to the site.

 

Planning Application List No 23 (none), 24, 25 & 26

 

No objections to

 

TA/2005/849  88 BLUEHOUSE LANE, LIMPSFIELD

ERECTION OF DETACHED BIN/CYCLE STORE.

 

TA/2005/858  PASTURES, HOOKWOOD PARK, LIMPSFIELD

ERECTION OF SINGLE STOREY EXTENSION TO NORTH WEST ELEVATION.

 

TA/2005/902  1 & 3 GATEWAY SUPERMARKET, STATION ROAD EAST

ERECTION OF SHUTTERS TO MAIN ENTRANCE OF STORE.

 

CW declared an interest in the following application:

TA/2005/600  TITSEY PLANTATION, NORTH DOWNS WAY,TITSEY

DISPLAY OF TWO NON-ILLUMINATED SIGNS TO VIEWING PLATFORM.

 

TA/2005/870  WILDWOOD, WESTERHAM ROAD, LIMPSFIELD

ERECTION OF 1.8M HIGH TIMBER FENCE LINKED TO BRICK WALL WITH 2.6M HIGH BRICK PIERS & GATES.

 

TA/2005/954  SPRING COTTAGE, RIDLANDS LANE, LIMPSFIELD

DEMOLITION OF EXISTING UTILITY ROOM & ERECTION OF SINGLE STOREY REAR EXTENSION.

 

 

Planning Refusals

TA/2005/532  10 Park Road, Limpsfield

Demolition of stable block, chimney and conservatory.  Erection of 2 x 5 bed houses each with detached double garage.

 

TA/2005/551  Rose Cottage

Move kitchen door, create extended cupboards under the stairs, remove lower stair hall wall and replace with oak retaining rails/stair posts.

 

Planning Approvals

 

TA/2003/938/A1  Boulthurst Farm, Pains Hill, Limpsfield

 

Planning Approvals (cont’d)

 

Variation of condition 4 of permission 2003/938 to allow use to take place on Sunday, 26 June 2005 between 10 am and 4 pm.

 

TA/2005/523/TPO  Beechdene, 20 Granville Road, Limpsfield

TPO45 (T) – crown thin cedar by 5 – 10%, crown lift canopy to the level of lowest roadside limb and reduce limb over garage by up to 50%.

 

TA/2005/542 85 Bluehouse Lane, Limpsfield

Demolition of existing garage/car port.  Erection of 2 storey side extension and single storey infill side extension with first floor over existing rear addition.

 

7.5  Highways

 

Correspondence:

 

·       Copy of e-mail from Mr Stone to District Cllr CW regarding Bluehouse Lane verges.  CW agreed to deal with the matter.         Action:  CW

 

RH reported on the following:

 

B269 Kent Hatch Road crossing:  Surrey Highways are still waiting for a programme from Carillion for this type of work.

 

Pollards Wood Road:  RH reported a water leak to Southern Water who after repeated requests agreed to repair necessary pipe work.

 

Lime trees, High Street, Limpsfield:  in spite of repeated requests to Highways to cut back the lime trees in the High Street prior to the village fair, this was eventually done by Geoff Tozer late afternoon on the Friday before.

 

LW reported a faulty traffic light at the A25 Westerham Road junction with Limpsfield High Street.  LW also reminded Members that a 30 mph speed roundel on the approach to Wolf’s Row from the south had not yet been painted on the road and that the interactive speed sign on East Hill was still being activated at speeds well below 40 mph.    Action:  Clerk

 

 

7.6  Publicity

 

There was nothing to report.


7.7  Trees  & Parish Property

 

Old Oxted Landscapers has supplied a copy of its insurance certificate for the ensuing year.

 

There was some discussion about watering the newly planted shrubs adjacent to the Memorial Stores.

 

 

8.0  REPORTS FROM REPRESENTATIVES ON OUTSIDE BODIES

 

8.1  Limpsfield Common

 

AW reported that Mr S Kirkwood had been elected the new Chairman of the Commons Committee.


8.2 
Limpsfield School

 

There was nothing to report.

 

 

8.3  Police Community Partnership Group

 

The next meeting will be held at Hurst Green Community Centre on Thursday, 7 July 2005 at 8.00 pm.

 

 

9.0  FINANCE

 

9.1  To adopt Financial Regulations incorporating the Accounts and Audit Regulations 2003

 

The new set of Financial Regulations were adopted by the Parish Council and duly signed by the Chairman.

9.2  Accounts for Payment

 

Resolved:  to pay the following accounts

 

·         Clerk’s salary (so 26 June 2005)                                                            £393.75

·         Clerk’s expenses (May & June £5.85), Broadband (June £14.00)
plus 3 months’ back dated salary increment (£50.00)(chq 301)                  £69.85

·         St Peter’s Hall (hall hire on 5/7/05) (chq 302)                                            £18.00

·         Old Oxted Landscapers (grass cutting) (chq 303)                                    £112.00

 

 

 

10.0    ANY OTHER BUSINESS

CH proposed a further vote of thanks to JP for the excellent way in which he had represented the Parish Council at the meeting to discuss the Watts Hill PMZ.

 

RH proposed a vote of thanks to CH for all her help in planting the shrubs in the High Street.

 


11.0  DATE OF NEXT MEETING

The next meeting will be held on Tuesday, 9 August 2005, in the Glebe Room, St Peter’s Hall, High Street Limpsfield.

 

 

 

The meeting closed at 9.40 pm

 

 

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