LIMPSFIELD PARISH COUNCIL

   Minutes of the Meeting held on Tuesday, 7 December 2004,

in the Glebe Room, St Peter’s Church Hall, High Street, Limpsfield at 7.30 pm

 

 

PRESENT:        Chairman          Mr B Alexander (BA),

                        Councillors        Mrs R Harris (RH), Mrs C Heijmer (CH),   Mr J Jensen (JJ),

                                                Mr D Marnham (DM), Mr J Pannett (JP), Mr C Walker (CW),

                                                Mrs L Wingate (LW)

 

1.0  APOLOGIES

Apologies were received from the Chairman, Mrs Angela Williams.  The meeting was Chaired by
Mr Brian Alexander.

 

2.0  MINUTES 

The minutes of the previous meeting were approved and signed as a true record.


3.0  MATTERS ARISING

 

A new litter bin has been installed next to the bus stop near Sylvan Close in Limpsfield High Street as requested.  The new street column has now been painted and is in working order.

 

Hydrangeas have been planted outside the former Limpsfield Lithographic works.

 

A letter has been sent to the owner of 26 Stanhopes explaining that the hedge running alongside the footpath between number 26 and the village green is not owned by the Parish Council who cannot, therefore, assist with the removal of the hedge cuttings.

 

 

4.0  PUBLIC SESSION

 

There were no questions from the floor.

 

 

5.0  COUNTY & DISTRICT COUNCILLOR REPORTS 

There were no reports received.

 


6.0  CHAIRMAN’S REPORT (including correspondence)


Corrrespondence:

·         Valuation Office Agency – business rates revaluation of the Parish Office.  CW to check.

·         Limpsfield CE Infant School – notification of increase in hall hire charge from £15 to £20 per session.  Resolved:  to request a lower hourly charge more compatible with other available premises.   Action:  Clerk

·         TDC – Code of Conduct – revised advice concerning Freemasonry.

·         Surrey Minerals Development Framework –consultation on preferred options is now likely to take place in Autumn 2005.  Report of observations made at the Tandridge stakeholder meeting held on 7 October in Godstone Baptist Church.  JP reported at the last meeting.

·         SCC – consultation on A Waste Development Framework for Surrey.  CH completed part of the questionnaire before the meeting.  JP to complete the remainder.                                         Action:  JP

·         Surrey Hills – letter of thanks for grant towards the Inspiring Views Project on Limpsfield Common

·         East Surrey Community Mediation – letter of thanks for grant.

·         East Surrey Transport Forum – report from Mr R Bristow on the Forum held on 15/11/04.

·         East Sussex Community Rail Partnership – report from Mr R Bristow on the meeting held on 23/11/04.

The Chairman thanked Mr Bristow for his comprehensive reports on the above transport meetings.

·         Open Spaces Society – plea for more funds to cover legal costs incurred in recent litigation.  It was decided not to send a donation as this does not directly benefit the people of Limpsfield.

·         Standards Board for England – new guidance for members

·         The Misses H Gregory and J Cannon – letter suggesting that Limpsfield High Street would benefit from a few Christmas lights to brighten it up!  Clerk to write a letter of thanks for the suggestion which will be included as part of the parish plan currently being compiled.

                                                               Action:  Clerk

·         Save Our Countryside – letter recommending a cautious approach to the extension of CPRE’s Quite Lane Scheme in Surrey.  Keep on file.

·         TDC – Standards Committee reminder about the Joint Training for District & Parish Councillors.  Next session Thursday, 16 December.  CW has already attended a training.  JP and DM will attend on 16 December.  Clerk to write requesting a further session for remaining members in the New Year.                                Action:  Clerk

·         TDC – Planning & Compulsory Purchase Act 2004.  Pre-submission Consultation on Draft Statement of Community Involvement under Regulation 25.  Comments / completed questionnaire by 21 January 2005.                 Action:  BA / AW

·         TDC – notification of Government announcement that it will hold its Official National Celebrations to mark VE/VJ Day 2005 on Sunday, 10 July 2005.    Action:  CW

·         LCAS – Newsletter No 23 December 2004.

 

7.0  PARISH COUNCILLORS’ REPORTS

7.1  Parish Plan Committee

 

CW reported that the software package had now been received to assist with the compilation of the questionnaire.  The questions need slimming down to a more manageable number.  A grant of £200 has been received from Neighbourhood Watch.  Gatwick Community Trust has still not forwarded a grant application form.  CW agreed to write an article about the parish plan for the Annual Report.  The next meeting is at Mrs Hollywood’s on Thursday, 9 December at 8.15 pm.

                                                                                                         Action:  CW

 

 

7.2  Rights of Way

Upgrading of footpaths 52 & 53 to Bridleway Status:  Mrs Birch, Surrey Rights of Way Group, has advised David Kennington of the discovery of a revocable deed declared by Charles Gresham Leveson Gower in 1930 applicable to Limpsfield Common and other commons in the area.  The Clerk has contacted Strutt & Parker to request a copy conveyance for a transaction made over Limpsfield Common ca 1938, but they are unable to help.

Mrs Birch has asked to be supplied with the names and address of the horse riders who attended the last parish council meeting and who agreed that if Bridleway 54 was improved there would be no need to pursue the upgrading of the footpaths.  The Clerk has written to Mrs Linda Thompson, the spokesperson for the riders, suggesting that she supply the information direct to Mrs Birch.

 

Philippa Gates, SCC Rights of Way Officer, is unable to give a timescale for work to Bridleway 54.  Whilst accepting that the Bridleway is muddy and steep, Mrs Gates does not consider that it is dangerous.

 

A letter has been received from Mr M Grantham acknowledging the Parish Council’s request for patience and understanding until the matter can be resolved.

 

The Clerk received a telephone call from Mrs Linda Thompson expressing the view that the horse riders do not have a preference as to which route is used to access Limpsfield Chart.  Mrs Thompson does not share the view of the Parish Council that SCC will have to improve the gradient of Bridleway 54 whatever the outcome.  Furthermore, the Limpsfield Common map shows footpath 52 as a Bridleway.

 

The Chairman invited Mark Richards to comment:

 

Mark Richards confirmed that the National Trust’s solicitors were looking into the litigation relating to the bye laws and order of limitations on the Common.  Mark confirmed that there is an error on the Limpsfield Common map which shows Bridleway 54 continuing a short way down footpath 52, although this comes to a dead end at the junction with footpath 53.  The maps are being recalled.  Mark reported that the National Trust has opened up Bridleway 54 even more and expressed the opinion that it could be brought up to a standard suitable for horse riders at a cost of approximately £1,000.  Mark does not agree with Mrs Birch’s view that “No horses” signs should be erected everywhere on the Common that horses are not allowed to ride.

 

Resolved:  to write to Nick Skellett to request assistance with implementing the improvements to Bridleway 54.       Action:  Clerk

 

·         Rights of Way and Countryside Access Annual Report 2003 – 2004.  DM to study.

 


7.3  Planning

Correspondence:

·         Copies of correspondence between the owner of Mountain Ash, Brassey Road and TDC regarding the Tetra Mast erected at Oxted Fire Station planning application TA/2002/P/998.  Clerk to write to resident supporting concerns that the replacement mast is more visually intrusive than the original mast.                        Action:  Clerk

·         Copy of correspondence between the owner of Saffron, Uvedale Road and TDC regarding the pre-application consultation with the local community re a proposed H3G base station at Oxted Fire Station.  The Clerk has written to Capita Symonds Ltd to request a copy of the consultation.

·         Copy of resident’s letter of objection to planning application TA/2004/1661 2A Park Road.

·         Four letters of objection from residents and one from the Park Road Residents’ Association regarding the three planning applications at 10 Park Road - TA/2204/1573/1574/1575.

·         E-mail from Mr Peter Humphrey advising that tree felling started at 10 Park Road on the morning of 26/11/04.  The Clerk has written to TDC expressing concern that the developer seems to be anticipating planning permission and requesting the Planning Department to remind the developer what he can and cannot do.

·         Trefoil Montessori School of Arts – letter requesting the Parish Council to support the school’s objection to the installation of a 20.5M telecommunications mast near to the school in Blindley Heath.  The school has pupils from Limpsfield on the register.  Members did not wish to comment on the application.

·         SCC – County Matter application: land at Clacket Lane Sandpit.  Variation of conditions of earlier planning permissions.  JP explained that the latest proposal was to redistribute the existing soil to even out the land levels.  He could see no reason to object to the application.  

 

Planning Application List No 44, 45, 46, 47 & 48

 

No objections to

 

TA/2004/1700/N  COULDENS FARM, GUILDABLES LANE, EDENBRIDGE ERECTION OF STEEL BARN FOR MACHINERY AND HAY.  (NOTIFICATION OF AGRICULTURAL PERMITTED DEVELOPMENT).

 

TA/2004/1726/TCA  21 STANHOPES, LIMPSFIELD

FELL CHERRY.

 

TA/2004/1747  HARE HILL COTTAGE, HOOKWOOD PARK, LIMPSFIELD

ERECTION OF FIRST FLOOR EXTENSION TO WEST ELEVATION.


 

TA/2004/1772  18 TITSEY ROAD, LIMPSFIELD

ERECTION OF SINGLE STOREY REAR EXTENSION.  (APPLICATION FOR CERTIFICATE OF LAWFULNESS FOR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT)

 

TA/2004/1777  BALLARDS HOUSE, BALLARDS LANE, LIMPSFIELD CHART

ERECTION OF PITCHED ROOF TO REPLACE FLAT ROOF

 

TA/2004/1793  CHARDLEIGH COTTAGE, PAINS HILL, LIMPSFIELD

ERECTION OF 2 STOREY EXTENSION TO NORTHWEST ELEVATION & PART TWO STOREY/FIRST FLOOR EXTENSION TO NORTHEAST ELEVATION.

 

TA/2004/1810 THE PRINTING WORKS, HIGH STREET, LIMPSFIELD

USE OF BUILDING TO PROVIDE OFFICE (B1) USE (APPLICATION FOR CERTIFICATE OF LAWFULNESS FOR A PROPOSED USE).

 

TA/2004/1817/TCA  ST. PETERS CHURCH, HIGH STREET, LIMPSFIELD

FELL 1 X CUPRESSUS AND PRUNE BACK 2 X HOLLY AND 3 X ELDEN.

 

TA/2004/1825  THE BULL INN, HIGH STREET, LIMPSFIELD

DISPLAY OF 1 EXTERNALLY ILLUMINATED FASCIA SIGN TO SOUTH ELEVATION & 1 EXTERNALLY ILLUMINATED DOUBLE SIDED FREESTANDING SIGN.

 

Objections to

 

TA/2004/1687  85, BLUEHOUSE LANE, LIMPSFIELD

DEMOLITION OF EXISTING GARAGE/CAR PORT. ERECTION OF 2 STOREY SIDE EXTENSION & SINGLE STOREY INFILL SIDE EXTENSION WITH FIRST FLOOR OVER EXISTING REAR ADDITION.  Object on the grounds that the extension is too bulky and unneighbourly.

 

TA/2004/1640  TREVEREUX MANOR, TREVEREUX HILL, LIMPSFIELD CHART DEMOLITION OF EXISTING LOGGIA AND ERECTION OF SINGLE STOREY EXTENSION TO EAST ELEVATION AND PORCH TO WEST ELEVATION.  Object on the grounds that the extension and the porch are both out of keeping with the existing building.  The porch roof obscures the profile of the windows on the upper storey.

 

TA/2004/1641  TREVEREUX MANOR, TREVEREUX HILL, LIMPSFIELD CHART DEMOLITION OF EXISTING LOGGIA AND ERECTION OF SINGLE STOREY EXTENSION TO EAST ELEVATION AND PORCH TO WEST ELEVATION. (APPLICATION FOR LISTED BUILDING CONSENT).

 

LW declared an interest in the following application

TA/2004/1759  24 WESTERHAM ROAD, OXTED

DEMOLITION OF EXISTING GARAGE.  ERECTION OF TWO STOREY SIDE/REAR EXTENSION, FIRST FLOOR EXTENSION AND SINGLE STOREY FRONT EXTENSION.  Object on the grounds that it is too close to the boundary, bulky and un-neighbourly.

 

TA/2004/1789  BOMBERS COTTAGE, DWELLY LANE, EDENBRIDGE

ERECTION OF 1.5M HIGH GATES AND PIERS AND 1M HIGH WALL WITH 0.6M HIGH RAILINGS TO FRONT BOUNDARY.  Object on the grounds that these detract from the rural character of the area.  Contravention of Policy RE8.

 

Planning Application Withdrawn

 

TA/2004/1549  Land rear of The Ridge, Brassey Road, Limpsfield

Demolition of garden shed.  Erection of 2 storey 5 bedroom dwelling with attached garage.

 

Planning Refusals

 

TA/2004/1364  5 Tally Road, Limpsfield Chart

Erection of single storey rear extension providing link to existing outbuilding.

 

Planning Approvals

 

TA/2004/1495  9 Tally Road, Limpsfield Chart

Erection of first floor front/side extension and raised pitch to existing roof.  Erection of pitched roof on existing single storey side/rear extension.

 

TA/2004/1215  33 Granville Road, Limpsfield

Erection of side conservatory

 

TA/2004/1462  170 Bluehouse Lane, Limpsfield

Erection of first floor side extension over existing garage with overhang to rear and single storey side element to provide covered walkway.

 

TA/2004/1510/TPO  5 Padbrook, Limpsfield

Various tree works to Atlas cedar

 

TA/2004/1563/TCA  24 Stanhopes, Limpsfield

2 x silver birch to be reduced in height.

 

TA/2004/956  73 Bluehouse Lane, Limpsfield

Erection of detached double garage / workshop.

 

 

Planning Appeal

 

2003/437  Land adjacent to Pitchfont Lane, Limpsfield

Appeal against Enforcement Notice No 8 of (2004).  The installation without planning permission of telecommunication apparatus consisting of a 15 metre high trailer mast with two antennae, a dish and integral radio housing equipment.  Clerk to write to Planning Inspectorate in support of TDC’s Enforcement Notice.                             Action:  Clerk

 

7.4  Highways

 

Correspondence:

·         Mr David Claridge – e-mail requesting consideration be given to erecting a Limpsfield Village sign in Wolf’s Row highlighting where the Conservation Area begins.   At the same time and in conjunction with other relevant authorities consider introducing measures to reduce vehicle speeds at that point.  Members were in agreement that they did not wish to introduce additional signage in the Conservation Area.  The whole point of the Conservation Area is to keep it that way.  RH will arrange a meeting with Stuart Eastmond to discuss the question of cars speeding along the whole length of the road from Wolfs Row through to the new development in Red Lane.  Clerk to respond to Mr Claridge accordingly.           Action:  RH / LW / Clerk

·         Mrs Brenda Ralph, Co-ordinator for BTH Neighbourhood Watch – letter concerning the speed of traffic along Pollards Wood Hill / Pollards Wood Road and Red Lane.  RH to suggest to Stuart Eastmond implementing a similar scheme to that used in Tandridge Lane with speed limits painted on the road.  Clerk to respond to Mrs Ralph accordingly.                      Action:  RH / LW / Clerk

·         Mark Richards reported the damaged verge at the junction of Pollards Wood Hill and Wolf’s Hill.  RH to discuss with Stuart Eastmond.                                                                                      Action:  RH

 

 

Footpath repairs in High Street, Limpsfield:  JJ reminded members that Highways had advised the Council in May 2004 that repairs to the footpath would be carried out by the end of the year.  The Clerk will contact Highways for an update.                                                                                                             Action:  Clerk

 

The Chairman thanked RH for her hard work on Highways.

 

 

7.5 Publicity

 

The finance committee had recommended seeking an independent quotation for producing the Limpsfield Report.  Oxted Colour Printers supplied a written quotation of £445.00 to produce 1500 copies.  Resolved:  to use Tangent Printers who had produced the 2004 report for £350.00.

 

BA asked Members to submit their articles for the Annual Report to the Clerk by early January 2005.

 

7.6  Trees  & Parish Property

 

Landscaping adjacent to the Memorial Stores:  Durham District Land Registry has confirmed that there is no register entry for the triangle of land adjacent to the Memorial Stores.  Old Oxted Landscapers has submitted an estimate of £600 to carry out landscaping work to include labour and materials (not including compost or shrubs).  Resolved:  to accept the estimate for works to be carried out as soon as possible, subject to CW first explaining to Mr Wright of Sandstones that the land is unregistered.                                                                                                         Action:  CW / Clerk  

 

Notice board on Limpsfield Chart:  the Clerk has spoken to Lady Critchett who considers the grass verge alongside the Carpenters Arms PH would be a good location for a notice board.  Titsey Rotary Club want to mark their Centenary in some way and Lady Critchett has suggested to Malcolm Lowe that they may like to supply a notice board and perhaps a new bus shelter as well.  If they agree to a bus shelter, the notice board could be incorporated into it.   BA has also discussed this with Malcolm Lowe who has confirmed that the suggestion will be considered at the next meeting of the Rotary Club.

 

Playground on the Chart:  the committee is awaiting permission from DEFRA and the National Trust before active fund raising commences.  A major concern is the ongoing fund raising that will be needed to pay the ‘high risk’ annual insurance costs.

 

Detillens Lane bus shelter:  the repairs have now been carried out by Old Oxted Landscapers.

 

 

8.0  REPORTS FROM REPRESENTATIVES ON OUTSIDE BODIES

 

8.1  Limpsfield Common

Mark is organising the next guided walk of the Common on Tuesday, 28 December, at 10 am.  Meet Ridlands Road car park.

 

The Chairman thanked Mark for all his work on the Common.

 

8.2  Limpsfield School

There was nothing to report.

 

8.3  Police Community Partnership Group

 

There was nothing to report.

 

9.0  ANNUAL PARISH MEETING PREPARATION

 

There was nothing further to discuss regarding the Annual Parish Meeting.

 

 

10.0  FINANCE

 

10.1  Approve 2nd quarter internal audit (deferred from November meeting)

The second quarter internal audit was approved and signed by David Marnham and the Responsible Financial Officer prior to the meeting.  

10.2  To discuss the budget and precept requirement for 2005/06

JP reported on the Finance Committee meeting held in November.  The Committee put forward a policy proposal that the grants budget should amount to no more than 10% of the annual income.  Furthermore, it was suggested that the availability of Parish Council grant funding should be advertised in the Annual Report and the village newsletters with an invitation to submit applications (that would benefit local associations) by the end of July each year for consideration within an agreed period.  A vote by show of hands was carried 7 for and 1 against.  It was agreed to defer a firm resolution until the Chairman was present at the next meeting.

 

Members were in agreement with JP’s suggestion to grant £25.00 to each of the two parish newsletters.  To be confirmed at the January meeting.

 

JP presented the budget proposals for 2005/06.  There was no increase in the precept last year.  To keep pace with increased insurance and staff costs, a 3.3% increase in the precept is recommended for the year 2005/06, taking it from £9,200 to £9,500.  It was agreed to defer a resolution to adopt the budget and precept until the January meeting.

 

The Chairman proposed a vote of thanks to JP and DM for their hard work on the Finance Committee.

 

10.3  Accounts for Payment

 

·         Clerk’s salary                                                                                      £393.75

·         Durham District Land Registry (office copy & plan)(chq268)                         £8.00

·         CPRE membership renewal                                                                    £25.00

·         Seeboard (DD 6/12/04)                                                                             £5.89

·         Woodland Trust membership renewal                                                      £21.00

·         LCAS annual fee                                                                                  £305.00

·         Mr R Bristow expenses                                                                            £3.10

·         St Peter’s Hall room hire                                                                        £18.00

·         Old Oxted Landscapers (bus shelter repairs / grass cutting)                    £184.00

 

 

Part II  Owing to the confidential nature of the business to be transacted, the public will be requested to leave the meeting during consideration of agenda item 11.0.

 

11.0  ALLOTMENTS COMMITTEE

 

See Appendix I

 

 

12.0  ANY OTHER BUSINESS

DM referred to his suggestion at the October meeting to get ‘Limpsfield’ re-instated as a recognised postal address.  The post office will only agree to allow ‘Limpsfield’ to be included as a separate line of the address (subject to filling out numerous application forms), but they will not agree to it replacing ‘Oxted’.  DM’s view is that this is not worth pursuing.

 


13.0  DATE OF NEXT MEETING

The next meeting will be held on Tuesday, 4 January 2005, at Limpsfield School Hall.

 

 

 

The meeting closed at 10.25 pm.

 

 

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