LIMPSFIELD PARISH COUNCIL

Minutes of the Meeting held on Tuesday, 30 March 2004,

in the Millennium Room, St Peter’s Church, Limpsfield at 7.30 pm

 

 

PRESENT:                        Chairman                        Mr C Walker (CW)

                        Councillors                        Mr B Alexander (BA), Mrs R Harris (RH), Mrs C Heijmer (CH),

                                                Mr J Pannett (JP), Mrs A Williams (AW),                        Mrs L Wingate (LW)

 

 

1.0  APOLOGIES

 

Apologies were received from Mr Jonathan Jensen.



2.0  MINUTES

 

The minutes of the previous meeting were approved and signed as a true record.

 


3.0  MATTERS ARISING

 

Minute 6.0 Chairman’s report:  Trish Bloxham has offered to attend the May meeting of the Council to discuss taking forward the Tandridge LA21 ‘Adopt-a-Street’ scheme in Limpsfield.  Agreed.

 

4.0  PUBLIC SESSION

 

There were no questions from the floor.

 

 

5.0  COUNTY & DISTRICT COUNCILLOR REPORTS

A written report from County Councillor Nick Skellett was received and read out by the Chairman.  The Chairman was pleased to note that Mr Skellett would be putting a funding request to the Local Committee for up to £2,000 towards the Limpsfield Chart playground appeal.


6.0  CHAIRMAN’S REPORT (including correspondence)


Corrrespondence:

·         Age Concern – invitation to AGM being held on Monday, 5 April 2004 at the Social Centre in Bluehouse Lane at 2.30 pm.  CW to attend.                  Action:  CW

·         LCAS – newsletter March 2004

·         TDC – “Tomorrow’s Tandridge”.  It was agreed to invite Paul Newdick to give a presentation to the Parish Council in September about the new planning system and some of the major issues that we may face.

·         Surrey Community Planning – Surrey in 2020.  Meeting to be held on Monday, 26 April 2004, at Bletchingley Village Hall from 7.30 – 9.30 pm.  AW / BA to attend.           Action:  AW/BA·         TDC – “Tomorrow’s Tandridge”.  It was agreed to invite Paul Newdick to give a presentation to the Parish Council in September about the new planning system and some of the major issues that we may face.

·         Surrey Community Planning – Surrey in 2020.  Meeting to be held on Monday, 26 April 2004, at Bletchingley Village Hall from 7.30 – 9.30 pm.  AW / BA to attend.           Action:  AW/BA·         TDC – “Tomorrow’s Tandridge”.  It was agreed to invite Paul Newdick to give a presentation to the Parish Council in September about the new planning system and some of the major issues that we may face.

·         Surrey Community Planning – Surrey in 2020.  Meeting to be held on Monday, 26 April 2004, at Bletchingley Village Hall from 7.30 – 9.30 pm.  AW / BA to attend.           Action:  AW/BA



 

6.1     Allotments Update

 

The Chairman and LW declared an interest in the following discussion

 

A written reply to the Council’s letters dated 20 January and 8 March 2004, has been received from Strutt & Parker.  It points out that the offer of alternative sites has to be made to the Allotment Holders, who are the tenants, but that copies of the correspondence will be forwarded to the Council.  It also points out that any Compulsory Purchase Order could only be confirmed after all other alternatives had been considered, not just land comprising part of the Titsey Estate.

 

The alternative site offered in Strutt & Parker’s letter to the PAAA is an area of 4.564 acres to the rear of the properties in Park Road at the eastern end, with access from Water Lane.  The letter states that it is a level site with good road access, the possibility of providing a small car park and can be better fenced against vermin.  In addition, the site could be somewhat bigger than the existing site if there is a demand for additional allotment.  The Titsey Estate would also undertake to provide fencing, car parking and water to the site.  Moreover, a transition period would be allowed for the transfer from the old site to the new site and the Notice to Quit on the existing site would be extended so that it expires in December 2007.  The proposal is subject to agreeing terms with the existing agricultural tenant.

 

The proposed site is designated an Area of Oustanding Natural Beauty, Area of Great Landscape Value and Green Belt.  Whilst allotments are not subject to the usual planning permission requirements, car parking is and the Planning Department has informally indicated that there may be concerns about the extent and visibility of this in the open AONB/AGLV and GB.

 

Paul Clayden has confirmed that the Parish Council is not directly involved at this stage because it has no legal interest in the land.  It will become an interested party if, or when, it takes steps to acquire an alternative site.   However, the Council is entitled to comment on the suitability of an alternative site, as are allotment holders, residents and electors, bearing in mind that any of them might become allotment holders. 

 

The Chairman welcomed Mr Ted Riches and the Chairman of the PAAA to the meeting.

 

Mr Riches confirmed that very few existing tenants would be prepared to move to the proposed new site on the north side of Park Road.  A number of site visits to the new site have been made at different times to assess the condition of the soil.  The site is considered unsuitable for a number of reasons:  the soil does not compare at all to the present site – it is a very heavy Gault clay making the ground extremely difficult to work and prone to water logging; the site is isolated compared to the existing site; it is extremely noisy; it is situated in a frost hollow formed by the downs on one side and the Bluehouse Lane ridge on the other.  Because so few members appear to be willing to relocate to this site, it is impossible to advise Strutt & Parker how much land would be required.  The PAAA has concluded that the site offered is not a “reasonable alternative” and would, therefore, urge the Parish Council to compulsorily purchase the existing site.

 

Members were in support of the PAAA’s decision to write a letter of refusal of the offer made by Strutt & Parker.  It was agreed that in the letter the Association should make clear their intention to ask the Parish Council to pursue the Compulsory Lease or Purchase of the land if a viable alternative cannot be found.

 

It was further agreed, subject to Strutt & Parker’s response to that letter, that the Parish Council would write to the agent once again to request the withdrawal of the Notice to Quit.

 

 

6.2     Diocese / St Peter’s Church land swap

 

The Parish Council has been copied on a total of 23 letters opposing the land swap.  The Chairman read out a list of the key points made in the letters.  The Chairman also pointed out that an open land policy, Policy BE11, to protect the open use of the land at Brook and Glebe Fields was incorporated into the 2001 Tandridge District Local Plan.

 

After lengthy discussion, members were unanimous in expressing serious concern about the possible future development of the Glebe and Brook Fields and agreed to strenuously object to any planning permission for the site, as and when application is made to the District Authority.

 

AW confirmed that the PCC would be giving a presentation about the proposal on Tuesday, 1 June 2004, in St Peter’s Church Hall, commencing at 8.00 pm.  The format of the meeting was unclear.

 

Action:  Clerk

 

Footpath 42:  Philippa Gates has inspected this footpath and will arrange for the vegetation to be cut back.

 

AW confirmed that she has walked her rights of way.  A number of them are on Limpsfield Common and Mark Richards has agreed to deal with them.  More graffiti has appeared on the fence at the Granville Road end of footpath 78.  CW agreed to ask Tony Yates to remove this.                        Action:  CW

Action:  Clerk

 

Footpath 42:  Philippa Gates has inspected this footpath and will arrange for the vegetation to be cut back.

 

AW confirmed that she has walked her rights of way.  A number of them are on Limpsfield Common and Mark Richards has agreed to deal with them.  More graffiti has appeared on the fence at the Granville Road end of footpath 78.  CW agreed to ask Tony Yates to remove this.                        Action:  CW

Action:  Clerk

 

Footpath 42:  Philippa Gates has inspected this footpath and will arrange for the vegetation to be cut back.

 

AW confirmed that she has walked her rights of way.  A number of them are on Limpsfield Common and Mark Richards has agreed to deal with them.  More graffiti has appeared on the fence at the Granville Road end of footpath 78.  CW agreed to ask Tony Yates to remove this.                        Action:  CW

Action:  Clerk

 

Footpath 42:  Philippa Gates has inspected this footpath and will arrange for the vegetation to be cut back.

 

AW confirmed that she has walked her rights of way.  A number of them are on Limpsfield Common and Mark Richards has agreed to deal with them.  More graffiti has appeared on the fence at the Granville Road end of footpath 78.  CW agreed to ask Tony Yates to remove this.                        Action:  CW

 


7.2  Planning

·         Mr Francis Thompson of Strutt & Parker has responded to the request for information about the Moorhouse sandpits by offering a guided tour of the sandpits to two members of the council.  Suggested dates are Friday, 23 April, 30 April or 7 May, commencing at around 10 am.  He is also planning to invite representatives from the County and District Planning Departments, Tatsfield Parish Council and Titsey Parish Meeting.  JP / BA to attend.                  Action:  JP / BA

·         The Limpsfield Memorial Stores committee would like to erect a small shed adjacent to the stores.  There was no objection in principle.

 

 

Planning Application Lists Nos 9, 10, 11 & 12

 

No objections

TA/2004/254  45, PARK ROAD, OXTED

ERECTION OF CONSERVATORY TO REAR.


TA/2004/260  LANGSHAW COTTAGE, PASTENS ROAD, OXTED

ERECTION OF SINGLE STOREY REAR EXTENSION.

 

TA/2004/225  FERNSHAW, ROCKFIELD ROAD, OXTED

ERECTION OF TWO STOREY DWELLING WITH DOUBLE GARAGE (OUTLINE).

No objections providing that the dwelling is of a reasonable size, in keeping with the size of the small the plot.

 

TA/2004/305  18, STONELEIGH ROAD, LIMPSFIELD

ERECTION OF REAR CONSERVATORY.

 

TA/2004/337  ASH FARM, HONEYPOT LANE, EDENBRIDGE

ERECTION OF SINGLE STOREY EXTENSION TO NORTH-WEST ELEVATION.

 

TA/2004/343  THE HAY BARN, SHINGLE BARN FARM, DWELLY LANE, LIMPSFIELD

ERECTION OF SINGLE STOREY LINK EXTENSION TO NORTH-EAST ELEVATION INCORPORATING CONVERSION OF GARAGE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ACCOMMODATION.  No objections provided that a garage is not subsequently added.

 

TA/2004/236  CHARTWELL, BRASSEY ROAD, OXTED

ERECTION OF SINGLE STOREY REAR EXTENSION.

 

TA/2004/354  61, BLUEHOUSE LANE, OXTED

ERECTION OF SINGLE STOREY SIDE EXTENSION.

 

TA/2004/393  STAFFHURST LODGE, GRANTS LANE, LIMPSFIELD

USE OF ADJOINING LAND AS PART OF RESIDENTIAL CURTILAGE (APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF LAWFULNESS FOR AN EXISTING USE).

 

TA/2004/336  ASH FARM, HONEYPOT LANE, EDENBRIDGE

RELOCATION OF EXISTING MENAGE FACILITY.

 

TA/2004/426  NATWEST BANK, 12 STATION ROAD EAST, OXTED

ERECTION OF ACCESS RAMP AND STEPS WITH ASSOCIATED HANDRAILS AND LIGHT.

 

TA/2004/432  CHARTVIEW, WESTERHAM ROAD, OXTED

ERECTION OF SIDE CONSERVATORY.

 

TA/2004/433 7, STANHOPES, LIMPSFIELD

INSTALLATION OF SOLAR PANEL TO SOUTH ROOF SLOPE. (Application for a Certificate of Lawfulness).

 

TA/2004/199  HAZELWOOD SCHOOL, WOLFS HILL, OXTED

ERECTION OF STEEL SHED.  Subject to adequate screening with shrubs/trees.

 

TA/2004/377  THE LITTLE SHEPHERDS COTTAGE, KENT HATCH ROAD, LIMPSFIELD

ERECTION OF SINGLE STOREY EXTENSION TO SOUTH ELEVATION.  Subject to the cottage remaining ancillary to the main building.

 

TA/2004/370  22, GRESHAM ROAD, OXTED

ERECTION OF A TWO STOREY SIDE AND REAR EXTENSION AND CONVERSION OF RESULTANT BUILDING TO PROVIDE 5 X 2-BED AND 3 X 1-BED FLATS WITH ASSOCIATED PARKING (10 SPACES).  Subject to car parking spaces meeting the requirements of Policy BE1.9 of the Local Plan and appropriate landscaping in keeping with the existing streetscape.

 

 

Planning Appeals

 

TA/2003/977                          Chardleigh cottage, Pains Hill, Limpsfield

Erection of two storey side extension & front porch.

 

Planning Refusals

 

TA/2004/73                               Three Gables, Ballards Lane, Oxted

Erection of 1.8M high wall with gates to front boundary.

TA/2004/80                        Comforts Orchard, Grants Lane, Limpsfield

Erection of detached triple open-fronted garage (amendment to previously approved scheme TA/2003/693).

TA/2004/88                        47 Westerham Road, Limpsfield

Erection of single storey rear extension with raised decking and room under for storage.

 

Planning Approvals

 

TA/2004/22                               Pitchfont Farm, Water Lane, Oxted

Demolition of existing cattle building and outbuildings; erection of two cattle buildings, with attached garage and workshop; erection of barn.

 

TA/2003/1620                         Clementsdene, 88 Bluehouse Lane, Oxted

Demolition of existing building and erection of 7 x 2 bed flats with associated landscaping and car parking (9 spaces).

 

Planning Appeal Dismissed

 

TA/2003/P/621                        Thornhill School, Westerham Road, Limpsfield

Erection of detached double garage.

 

 

7.3  Highways

 

RH reported on the following issues:

·         Wolfs Row parking:  a reply has been received from Highways stating that no action will be taken to deter parking near the corner by the traffic lights.  RH expressed concern that the Highways Assistant was not fully acquainted with the facts and requested that a site meeting be set up to discuss a solution the problem.   Action:  Clerk

·         Copy of Highways’ e-mail to Nick Skellett.  Highways is endeavouring to co-ordinate the reparations to the footpath in Limpsfield High Street with two vehicle crossovers which are within the area to be re-laid.  These crossovers are currently in the planning stage which is causing a short term delay to the necessary works.

·         The Parish Council confirmed its support for the installation of a vehicle activated warning sign on the eastern approach to Snatts Hill, which was being put forward for approval at the Tandridge Local Committee meeting on 26 March 2004.

·         A complaint has been received about the large ‘valley’ in the Titsey road surface, just after the left hand bend going north.     Action:  Clerk

·         Parking outside Hazelwood School:  a meeting to discuss parking arrangements has been arranged for Monday, 17 May 2004, at 3.45 pm.   Action:  CW / RH

 

The clerk agreed to ask Highways to replace the old style street light near Sylvan Close.

 

7.4  Publicity

 

There was nothing to report.

 

7.5  Trees, Village Green & Parish Office

 

The Chairman confirmed that Mr Wright of Sandstones was very happy with the Parish Council’s plans for the area adjacent to the Memorial Stores.

 

AW reported that a number of shingles were missing from the roof of the bus shelter outside the Council Offices in Station Road East.

 

 

8.0  REPORTS FROM REPRESENTATIVES ON OUTSIDE BODIES

 

8.1  Limpsfield Common

Apologies were received from Mark Richards.

 

8.2  Limpsfield School

The minutes of the Governors’ meeting held on 11/02/04 have been received.  There was nothing further to report.

 

8.3  Police Community Partnership Group

 

There was nothing to report.

 

9.0  FINANCE

 

9.1  Grants – Age Concern

Resolved:  having inspected the Annual Accounts, it was resolved to grant the sum of £150 to Age Concern under s137 of the LGA1972.

 

9.2  Accounts for Payment

 

·         G Cannon salary (26 March 2004)     £380.66

·         Tandridge District Council (first half rates)(chq 221) £96.80

·         Tangent Printers (Annual Parish Report)(chq 222) £398.66

·         Glasdon UK Ltd (two jubilee bollards)(chq 223)     £321.26

·         G Cannon expenses & broadband (chq 224)       £38.08

·         Age Concern (s137 grant)(chq 225) £100.00

 

 

10.0  ANY OTHER BUSINESS

Dr J Nathan, as Chairman of Master Park Management Committee, has requested that an appeal be made at the Annual Parish Meeting on 31 March 2004, for financial support to maintain the park.  Agreed.


11.0  DATE OF NEXT MEETING

The next meeting will be held on Tuesday, 4 May 2004.

 

 

 

The meeting closed at 10.30 pm.

 

 

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