Posted by Captain of My Fate [COMF] on April 02, 1999 at 05:04:17 {ppHCdFLRUM0vgA2d.KEIoRa3VCcycQ}:
Echoing the words of practicus about H2O, I said of the WBTS:
If the promoters are dishonest about how many JW's died in WWII prison camps, how can they be trusted about anything else?
If the promoters
are dishonest about the history of the organization, how can they be trusted about anything else?
Moderator 14 said:
repeated references to 'dishonesty' are slanderous because you have not produced
nor has anyone else proof that any of these things were known to be untrue or that there was any intent to deceive. Being wrong is not the same as being dishonest.
Let's see if Moderator 14 is telling the truth. Were "any of these things known to be untrue" regarding the number who died in concentration camps? Has the society rewritten its own history?
As detailed by many helpful folks in this thread and on various websites, here are the figures:
Watchtower 50 12/15 "1,000 of Jehovah�s witnesses died in prisons and concentration camps"
Watchtower 51 2/15 "...went to concentration camps and prisons, where 2,000 died cruel deaths"
Watchtower 64 1/1 "...were put in concentration camps and over 4,000 died there."
Yearbook 74 "A total of 2,000 brothers and sisters had been put into concentration camps...A total of 635 had died in prison"
Watchtower 89 1/1 21 "...were sent to concentration camps, a thousand of them were executed, and another thousand died"
Let's go back to Moderator 14's statement
above.
You have not produced nor has anyone else proof that any of these things were known to be untrue or that there was any intent to deceive.
Well... I believe everyone knows the rest of this post, the need of apology, the resigned acknowledgement that it won't be given, nor will an admission of the truth be forthcoming from Moderator 14 due to pride and a lack of concern for real truth. No need to go into detail.
Thanks to all who provided the links and information. I will still respond Moderator 14's post to the thread about not knowing the year, but since his points were rebutted by A.F. Cygnus and several others, and neither he nor Rick chose to answer those posts, I don't see the need to get in a hurry. I'm on my way to the beaches of Corpus Christi for the weekend... how's that for irony? Have a great weekend, all.
Love,
COMF