Posted by Kriss on March 20, 1999 at 22:46:25 {MW9hQZt3yw8IU}:
In Reply to: *Revised Biblical Chronology posted by Covert on March 20, 1999 at 14:43:09:
Hi Covert,
>>>When Jesus doesn't return to collect his "elect" in the next 30-40 years, I'd like to see what nifty "prophecy" chart you'll be drawing-up next. :o)
Say, Covert, your commentary is not applicable. You're not paying attention.
Remember what happens just before Jesus is to collect his elite? FLASHBACK: Battle in heaven? Woman runs into the wilderness for 42 months -- OUT OF THE SIGHT OF DRAGON?
Do you understand what that means? It means that the gathering of the elite is going to be done by the "angels." The "wilderness" represents this is an invisible, secret procedure, "out of the sight of the dragon."
Please note also that 1992 is not a future date, but a past date! So there is no waiting 40 years to see if the Messiah has come. According to the 1992 prophecy, he should have come in 1992.
Well did he? or didn't he?
To answer that, guess what? You have to go to the Bible. Do you think you're going to see some new organization forming where everybody has a visible halo over their heads indicating they're of the anointed?
C'mon! How is this supposed to happen Covert? What does the Bible say about the second coming?
If you don't know, then how are you going to be able to tell he's come or not?
What we're saying is not prophetic, therefore. We're ANNOUNCING the correct date for the coming of the Messiah and acknowledging that he has come and the ingathering of anointed ones is IN PROGRESS.
Didn't notice did you? Because you're not paying attention to scriture.
Here's a nice question for you.
Is the Second Coming visible or invisible? Is it public or private? Is there more than one stage or not. Does Jesus announce to the world his coming when he first arrives, or does the Bible say he comes as a "thief in the night"?
The Bible gives us signs to watch for not only for when the Messiah is "near at the doors" but for what will happen when he actually arrives. Do you know what to look for?
What if I told you the signs are happening right now in front of your very eyes?
DUH?
Right. Because most people aren't in on what will happen immediately after the kingdom is set up. In order to take hold of this reality, you must "pay more than the usual attention." You remain "awake!"
Are you AWAKE Covert?
Did you miss the "great tribulation" for instance? That was the most significant and unique sign that was to happen to indicate the Messiah would appear within the next 40-45 years. The tribulation like none other that had ever occurred before "to that NATION" and which would not occur again, the one in which if the "days had not been cut short no FLESH [OF THE JEWS] would be saved" was none other than the HOLOCAUST.
Did you miss that?
So it's not a matter of another prediction. This chronology says the Messiah must have arrived in 1992. Did he?
Apparently so. If you think he hasn't, then perhaps you need to do a really close look at the scriptures again.
Focuss on what is to happen immediately after the kingdom is set up and determine whether this first stage will be public or private, secret or open.
Focus on how the ingathering of the anointed ones takes place. Is the separation work by public witness, or by the angels, invisibly.
How will you tell if the gathering is taking place?
Will there be some physical manifestation?
Or will "two be grinding at the mill...one will be taken, one will be left?"
Everything that is prophesied about the Messiah's Second Coming has been fulfilled and is being fulfilled.
But you don't see it, because you have been deluded into looking for the wrong things.
Let me ask you a simple question.
What are you expecting?
Is Jesus coming in the flesh? or in spirit?
If you can't answer this affirmatively from the Bible. Then how do you know if he hasn't come or not?
No big deal. But it's time to get down to the nitty gritty as to what EXACTLY we are to be expeting when he arrives.
As far as ingathering the anointed ones, this is done by angels, privately, and totally secretly, completely invisible to the world. So if you're looking for some outward manifestation of this ingathering, then you're looking for something not quite scripturally accurate, aren't you?
Remember, Covert, you must be AWAKE! Something is happening before your very eyes, but you can't see it. DARKNESS was prophesied for the world during the Messiah's coming, but the light shines brightly for those who are paying attention.
Thus please note, the biblical chronology points to 1992 as the kingdom date. We're not expressing any disappointment that for some reason this event didn't happen. In a way, we are confirming that it did.
But since you didn't notice that it did. You must have been expecting something else. So ask yourself, just WHAT AM I EXPECTING...and is that expectation Biblical?
Now is the time if any.....
Best wishes on your search for truth, by friend...
Kriss