| All Others (5) |
| Chris (1) |
| Blake Drew (2) |
| Jim (1) |
| Vote to stop Pitcher's Points from counting towards the Monthly Prize once a team's Pitchers points stop counting towards the yearly prize due to reaching the Yearly Innings Pitched Limit. |
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| FINAL RULING: |
| The League rules NOT IN FAVOR. |
| VOTING TALLY: |
| "Yes" = a vote in favor of the proposal |
| "No" = a vote not in favor of the proposal |
| "Impartial" = a voiced indecision on the proposal (Uncounted towards final percentage of votes entered) |
| "No Vote" = an unvoiced indecision on the proposal (Uncounted towards final percentage of votes entered) |
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| Percentage to IN FAVOR = 33% (1/3) |
| JIM |
| INITIAL POST: |
| clarification
by: Jim (Team AARP) Sep 21 12:10pm I want to rehash something that was brought up at the beginning of the month and now makes no sense - counting pitching stats for your monthly limit after running out of useable innings for the year. I want to go ahead and call shenanigans on that - and now it is largely obvious why this rule is in place BLAKE. I would like to call a vote - I propose that once you run out of innings for the year, you no longer get to count pitching stats that will help you win any given month. If it doesn't count for your annual tally, then it shouldn't count for the month either. That is just a way to run through your innings in 5 months, then still pitch guys in September and try to win the month...which Blake is doing right now. Just my 2 cents. |
| JIM |
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| Clarifying the Clarification
by: ** COMMISSIONER ** (** COMMISSIONER **) Sep 21 4:37pm Follow the logic... 1.) Let us first agree that a team's performance one month has zero effect on the next month. For instance, the fact that you scored 900+ points and won May did not change your team's circumstances over any other team come June. Once June arrived, your performance in May was insignificant. You were not awarded bonus points, nor were you deducted points to give another team an advantage. Everyone began the month of June all squared. 2.) Let us also agree that a team's YEARLY performance has zero effect on any month. The fact that I was leading by 300 coming into September did not mean that I was awarded bonus points to start the month, nor deducted points. I began the month at zero - same as everyone else. Therefore, when speaking about performance, what a team does in previous months or for the yearly total has ZERO effect on the new month prize. By this logic does it make sense to penalize a team the ability to accure points for that month based on prior happenings in the league? Disregarding the fact that I noted above that yearly performance has no barring on monthly prizes which, in itself, should be a valid enough reason, by your logic you are ACTUALLY saying that April for Team A has a pitching limit of 1450 - as it does with Team B. However, your argument holds that May has an ip limit of 1450 minus April. For team's A and B this number will be different, thus giving one team an advantage over another. But this simply is not the point of the monthly prizes. All prior happenings are to become unimportant at the beginning of each month and each team is supposed to start of the same plane. Therefore, as I hope you get by now - it makes no sense to institute an IP limit of 1450-April-May-June-July-August for September because, at that time, teams have trendously different starting grounds. As Chris noted, this difference in player performance is measured BY THE YEARLY tally in that both Matt and Drew have not had pitchers counting towards their scores. Following the new rules, we will do the same for monthly limits, where point totals for the monthly socre will not count once you surpass the limit. Still, your proposal COULD apply under this system because a team could pitch more than the monthly limit and have it count towards the yearly limit - thus, the same problem would arise. But I hope I have shown the error in your judgment. Quit being a whinny BITCH and accept that you suck. P.S. I just read through all your posts and wanted to answer explicitly that... a.) Chris, you still do need to manager your IP over the course of the year because if you run 15 pitchers out in a particular month WHEN THOSE INNINGS ARE COUNTING TOWARDS YOUR SCORE, then you inevitably have to count the -10 point Jose Contreras nights, etc. So throwing out bad pitchers only matters. |
| BLAKE |