9) On what authority, or on what principle, would we accept as Scripture books that we know were not written by one of the twelve apostles?

Extrabiblical tradition. Admitting this was meant to prove sola scriptura is unworkable as the canon was decided by using extra biblical tradition.

The argument is a non sequitur because it is trying to prove INFALLIBLE tradition is necessary, by arguing fallible tradition was used when judging the "apostolicity" of Bible books.


In other words, as the Church was able to decide the canon without an infallible list, so can anyone else. To conclude otherwise is a special pleading fallacy inconsistent with historical fact. Others accomplished the same feat centuries before the church existed, with the Old Testament..

Sola scriptura permits the use of any extrabiblical data, it just doesn't allow that is equal in authority to Scripture.

It is not required we have infallible lists to decide the canon....because the canon is not known to us via a list....God bears witness to His Word.

I first read the scripture because of arguments against Evolution. Questions about canon and lists didn't concern me at all. I was given a Bible with 66 books, so I read those.

What I wasn't prepared for was my reaction to these, they exerted a power over me unlike any other writing. Although I didn't understand most of what I read, I could not put it down. The Word of God convinced me He is. Afterward I became a Christian.

Later I read the apocrypha and pseudopigrapha, to see if these were also scripture. I had a distinct perception many of these were written by devils....the witness they are not scripture is clear.

If what I did were unique, then it would be special pleading to suggest this rebuts Catholic apologetic. However, I call as my witness Catholic apologist Patrict Madrid, who described the situation of Jews before Christ...how did they know if a book was of God or not:

Second Question from James White to Patrick Madrid:

White: Mr. Madrid, I've asked you this before. How did the Jewish man 50 years before Jesus Christ know that the books of 2 Chronicles and Isaiah were Scripture? Would you like me to repeat that?

Madrid: No, I think I got that. Thank you. The Jewish man of the 50 year period before Christ knew that that Scripture, 1 and 2 Chronicles, was inspired because the Old Testament church, the Old Testament people of God, regarded it as Scripture. It had the official pedigree of coming from a prophet and it had always been regarded that way. So he would draw not only on what his internal testimony was of what those books say, but he would also base what his position was on what the constant teaching of the Old Testament people was as well. As you remember, they regarded 1 and 2 Chronicles as Scripture.

http://vintage.aomin.org/SANTRAN.html



What the Jewish man did, the Christian church did, that means they discovered which books were canon WITHOUT an infallible authority.

If they could do it (and they did for centuries), I can and so can every Bible Christian.

A list made by man wouldn't inspire any confidence in me at all. The reason why I can KNOW beyond doubt its the Word of God, is because God bears me witness He wrote it, as I read it. The only author essential to sola scriptura is God Himself....human authors are accidental to the authority of God's Word.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

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