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Our case is alleging that Bush and his puppets Rice and Cheney and
Mueller and Rumsfeld and so forth, Tenet, were all
involved not only in aiding and abetting and allowing 9/11 to happen but in
actually ordering it to happen. Bush personally ordered it to happen. We have
some very incriminating documents as well as eye-witnesses, that Bush
personally ordered this event to happen in order to gain political advantage,
to pursue a bogus political agenda on behalf of the neocons
and their deluded thinking in the Middle East. I also wanted to point out that,
just quickly, I went to school with some of these neocons. At the
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AJ: He is back with us. He is former Bob Dole’s chief of
staff, very successful counselor, lawyer. He
represents hundreds of the victims families of 9/11.
He is suing Bush for involvement in 9/11. Now a major Zogby
poll out – half of New Yorkers think the government was involved in 9/11.
And joining us for the next 35 minutes, into the next hour, is
SH: Glad to be on.
AJ: We’ll have to recap this when we start the next hour, but
just in a nutshell, you have a lawsuit going, you’ve deposed a lot of
military officers. You know the truth of 9/11. Just in a nutshell, what is your
case alleging?
SH: Our case is alleging that Bush and his puppets Rice and Cheney
and Mueller and Rumsfeld and so forth, Tenet, were
all involved not only in aiding and abetting and allowing 9/11 to happen but in
actually ordering it to happen. Bush personally ordered it to happen. We have
some very incriminating documents as well as eye-witnesses, that Bush
personally ordered this event to happen in order to gain political advantage,
to pursue a bogus political agenda on behalf of the neocons
and their deluded thinking in the Middle East. I also wanted to point out that,
just quickly, I went to school with some of these neocons. At the
AJ: That’s right. They were all Straussian
followers of a Nazi-like professor. And now they are setting it up here in
SH: 7 billion, 7 billion
AJ: Yeah, 7 billion. Can you go over some of the new and
incriminating evidence you’ve got of them ordering the attack?
SH: Yes, let me just say that this is a taxpayers’ class
action lawsuit as well as a suit on behalf of the families and the basic three
arguments are they violated the Constitution by ordering this event. And
secondly that they [garbled] fraudulent Federal Claims Act, Title 31 of the
AJ: Tell you what, stay there.
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AJ: Alright my friends, second hour, September 10th, 2004, the
anniversary of the globalist attack coming up
tomorrow. It’s an amazing individual we have on the line. Bob
Dole’s former chief of staff, political scientist, a lawyer, he went to
school with Rumsfeld and others, he wrote his thesis
about how to turn
SH: Yeah, we are suing Bush, Condoleeza
Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Mueller, etc. for complicity
in personally not only allowing 9/11 to happen but in ordering it. The
hijackers we retained and we had a witness who is married to one of them. The
hijackers were
AJ: Absolutely and now it has come out – five separate drills
of flying hijacked jets into buildings that morning – which you told us
about before it even broke in the Associated Press.
They were trying to get out ahead of you. You talked about how you interviewed
military people who were told it was a drill that morning. Then to get out
ahead of that, the news finally reported on it. Now, we’ve learned that
all these operations – I want to get into that, I want to talk about the
new incriminating evidence of ordering it and how they had drilled on this, how
Cheney was in the bunker controlling this. That has even come out in the
mainstream news but they won’t release the details of that,
SH: First of all, my office was burglarized in
AJ: Stay there Stanley, Bob Dole’s former chief of staff. We’ll
come back after this quick break. Please stay with us.
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AJ: Alright, eight minutes, 25 seconds
into the second hour. Stanley Hilton, political scientist,
lawyer, Bob Dole’s former chief of staff, is suing the government for 7
billion dollars for carrying out 9/11 and for racketeering. And he joins us
now. During the break, I first really did the big interview with
SH: I did an interview with you, Alex, back in March of 2003, about
a year and a half ago, and literally two weeks after that, I was contacted by
the emissary of the chief judge of the federal court where I have the lawsuit.
And I was warned not to publicize it but to keep it quiet and threatened with
discipline. And it remained quiet until a couple of months ago and then I got
on the air on some programs and some publicity and… July 1st, I was
threatened directly by the chief judge here, threatened with court discipline.
This particular judge has been circulating communiqués to the other
federal judges seeking anything negative she can get against me to try and
discipline me after I’ve been on the court here for 30-years with no
disciplinary problems at all. This is suddenly happening. And
her assistants who are on the committee of the court met with me on July 1st in
AJ: It’s all color of law. No direct orders, just all in your
face.
SH: They sent a letter out, and of course they deny it’s
because of the political content of the suit but they told me directly on the
phone that it is because of this suit and this judge is very, very angry,
apparently has been in contact with Ashcroft’s Justice Department. I got
a call from Ashcroft’s Justice Department a few months ago about this,
demanding that I drop the suit, threatening sanctions and all kinds of things.
I refused to drop it.
AJ: Now let’s go back over, you had them break into your
office, harassment. Let’s go over that in detail.
SH: My office was broken into about 6 months ago. The file cabinets
– it was obvious they had been rifled through. Files were stolen. Files
dealing with this particular case and particularly with the documents I had
regarding the fact that the – some of these hijackers, at least some of
them were on the payroll of the U.S. government as undercover FBI, CIA, double
agents. They are spying on Arab groups in the
AJ: Now, let’s talk about what they want you to drop.
Let’s talk about, without giving names, the people you deposed, what
really happened, the picture you’ve got. You said earlier that Bush
ordered this, they were simulating this which they now
admit there were simulations on that morning. Let’s go over what they
don’t want you to talk about,
SH: We have evidence both documentary as well as witness sworn
statements from undercover former FBI agents, FBI informants, etc., that other
officials in the Pentagon and the military and the Air Force that deal with the
fact that there were many drills, many rehearsals for 9/11 before it happened.
Bush had seen this simulated on TV many times. He blurted this out at a press
conference in
AJ: And now Mayor Giuliani, a few months
ago in the 911 Commission, admitted that – Tripod II. They had their
whole command post already moved out of Building 7. Now, this is very, very
important. This is a key area of this whole event. You said months before it
came out on the CIA’s own website and the Associated Press, you said I
deposed people. They said there were drills that morning and exactly what
happened, happening – that was the smoke-screen for the stand-down. And
then to get out ahead of it, the CIA comes out and said yeah we were running a
drill that morning. Now, we’ve learned that five, possibly six, were
confirmed. Five of these – one drill with the exact same thing happening
that actually happened, at the exact same time in the morning. That’s why
NORAD stood down with 24 different blips on the screen. You’ve said this.
You brought this up first. Now, I know you can’t get too much into detail
but can you tell us how you learned of this?
SH: I have interviewed individuals in NORAD and the Air Force. I
personally toured NORAD many years ago around the time that I worked for Dole.
I’m very familiar with the operations at
AJ: But five drills that day.
SH: That day, that day, and Bush thought it was a drill.
That’s the only explanation for why he appeared nonchalant………
AJ: We also had NORAD officers and civilian air traffic controllers
going, “Is this part of the exercise? Is this a drill?”
SH: Yes.
AJ: on the tapes and in TV interviews, they thought it was, quote,
a drill.
SH: That’s right. That’s exactly what I said long
before it became public. I’ve known about this since earlier in March of
’03, as I stated before. This was all planned. This was a government
ordered operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized the
attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder. And now, obstruction of
justice by attempting to use a federal judge and FBI agents to inhibit a
legitimate civil lawsuit in this country, in federal court. Even a chief judge
in this court tried to harass and threaten me personally for representing
legitimate plaintiffs. And they got
AJ: Well, I mean look, they say they never heard of a plan to fly
planes into buildings – said it all over television – Rice, Bush,
Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft.
And then we find out they were running all these drills that morning. Even if
they weren’t involved, that proves they were liars about ever hearing of
such a plan.
SH: Well, I’m trying to take their depositions –
I’ve been trying to take their depositions for months. They’ve been
trying to object to it. They will have to admit they were either lying then or
now. It’s clearly perjury either way. They are liars and perjurers;
that’s what they are. These are the people that we have running this
government and, of course, they knew about it. How are they going to claim now
that they didn’t know about these drills? Their idea is that nobody knew
anything. It’s the old know nothing mentality. And how anybody considers
this believable is beyond me.
AJ: Alright, now people ask how could a huge organization, how
could the AWACs, how could
the military let this happen; whereas before, if your Cessna got off course for
five minutes, they would launch F-16s on you. It’s real simple.
It’s what
SH: Well they are going to admit it, they’re going to release
it in the court case because if you demand it under subpoena powers and they
must release it. And part of our lawsuit is brought in the name of the
AJ: I think you need to publicly tell folks that you are not
planning suicide. Would you like to tell folks that?
SH: (laughs) I’m not planning suicide. I’ve got family
and I’m not planning that but I don’t like the threats I’m
under – but I can tell you this, it’s taking a toll emotionally on
me and my staff. And particularly, when you get a threat from
the chief judge of your own court.
AJ: Why have you decided to go public again after a year of being
under the radar?
SH: Because the more and more evidence that I’ve been
adducing over a year and a half has made it so obvious to me that this was now
without any doubt a government operation and that it amounts to the biggest act
of treason and mass murder in American history. I mean George Bush makes
Benedict Arnold look like a patriot. He makes Benedict Arnold look like George
Washington. I mean that’s what we have – a criminal and a traitor
sitting in the White House pretending he’s a patriot, wrapping himself in
the flag. And it’s pretty disgusting because the other side of the so-called
opposition, the Kerry camp is just saying nothing because they’re afraid
to speak.
AJ: Stay right there. We’ll be right back.
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AJ:
SH: National Security Council classified documents which [garbled]
and it’s was part of a series of documents that were involved with the
drill documents. This was all planned – they had it on videotape. These
planes were controlled by remote control, as I stated previously a year and a
half ago, there’s a system called Cyclops. There is a computer chip in
the nose of the plane and it enables the ground control, the military ground
control, to disable the pilot’s control of the plane and to control it and
to fly it directly into those towers. That’s what happened. It’s
also a technology used on what’s called the Global Hawk, which is an
aircraft drone – a remote-controlled aircraft. And they were doing it. We
are talking about National Security Council classified documents that clearly
indicated that [garbled] had a green light to order this to go and this is no
drill. These drills that were running were clearly a dress rehearsal and this
was a government operation. You wonder why these people are trying to threaten
people and trying to intimidate people who have written this suit, I guess if
you murdered 3000 of your own citizens, in conjunction with the corrupt Royal
family of
AJ: I mean let’s look at this. Not only are there dress
rehearsals, they are smoke screens so the good military stands down and
doesn’t know what’s happening. But it’s now coming out, even
in mainstream news, that yes these drills were going on. Yes, and some of these
drills, quote, passenger-type jets were under remote control – this is
decades old technology. In 1958, NORAD was [ ] old jets and using them for
target practice. Decades ago they flew jumbo jets from LA to Sidney Australia.
So since that’s going on, everybody knows that. And it’s the same
MO. Just like the first
SH: It’s one of the things that we are looking into –
that nerve gas or something else disabled people. It’s possible. I
can’t say for sure to be honest with you…
AJ: All you know is they were government agents and they were on
board and the planes were remote controlled.
SH: Yeah, it was basically a smokescreen. I mean, the events of the
hijackings, how someone snuck in those cutters, it was a plant. It was like a
classic decoy. I’ve got some military background. And it’s called
decoy. It’s a decoy operation. You make the people focus on the decoy to
avoid looking at the real criminals. So they are focusing on these so-called
nineteen hijackers and saying, “Oh, it must have been these Arabs. When,
in fact, the guilty person is at
AJ: Well, the media is owned by the same military industrial
complex that carried out the attacks.
SH: Yeah, the media is only interested in maintaining the official
government fantasy that this was a little lone Arab. These Arabs couldn’t
even steer that plane down a runway.
AJ: Stay there
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AJ: Mr. Hilton, when you talk to these FBI agents, when you talk to
these military men and women, what’s their attitude? They’ve got to
be pretty freaked out to have the big picture and know what actually happened
on 9/11.
SH: Yes, you know it’s like clouds just before a thunderstorm
in the sense that they are sort of pregnant with rage. They are just enraged at
the criminal politicians who have perverted and misused the government to
murder its own citizens and pursue these dubious political ends. And many of
them, in increasing numbers, are willing to talk and will talk under subpoena
– but only under subpoena because the official party line of the
government is shut up and don’t talk to the trial lawyer. But more and
more, they are very outraged that part of the government has done this to its
own people, to its own people. I mean you have to go back to Stalin to see
something – not even Hitler did this to his own people. You have to look
at Stalin who murdered the Kulaks, the Russians for his own dubious gains. Also
we’ve got – we have a Stalinist mentality in this country. And, if
these people pose as patriots and wrap themselves in the flag, it’s
disgusting.
I wanted also to point out that the Japanese television network,
Asahi, is going to be airing a special on primetime tomorrow, on September
11th. They interviewed me for eight hours a couple of weeks ago. I’ll be
on that. I wish – of course, the
AJ: Stanley, the globalists, the new
world order crowd, definitely intend to carry out more
terror attacks. I know they would have carried out more attacks if we
wouldn’t have done what we’ve been up to, if you wouldn’t
have been out there boldly speaking out and many others. And then their
electronic
SH: Well, yeah, I think they have an agenda. They have contingency
plans. I think they are laying low now because there
are an increasing number of people, like myself, who are openly challenging
them and accusing them of criminal conduct. I think they would have done it
again if we had not spoken up. I think they’re planning, what they would
like to do is silence any dissenters. That’s why we are trying to get the
Patriot Act declared unconstitutional in this lawsuit also.
AJ: Let’s talk about polls. In the beginning a patriot is a
scarce man, hated and feared, but in time when his cause succeeds, the timid
join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. You are one of those
guys who hit the barbwire for us, or figuratively jumped on the hand grenade
for
SH: Well, I think that’s why they want the Patriot Act to
suppress political dissent. They have to, they’re anticipating, they are
not dumb individuals. I know these people personally, Wolfowitz.
These are criminal individuals but they are smart and so they anticipated
political dissent. And that’s why, like the Nazis, their forebears, and
their blood brothers, the Nazis and the Stalinists, they’re all for
political repression. Every corrupt and criminal government has done this
– they suppress their own people: Nazi
AJ: You’ve got to go in just a minute or two. But I wanted to
also tell you about
SH: Well, that’s right, the word terrorist is now being
overly broad and overly defined [garbled] and also, you know, it’s like
the word communist was used for anything during the McCarthy witch hunt. And
anybody can be called a terrorist by Bush’s definition. But the irony is
that the number one terrorist in the world is living at the White House at the
oval office today. That’s the real irony. For sheer hypocrisy, I think he
deserves the world prize and ought to be in the Ripley book, Believe It or Not,
and the Guinness book of world records for sheer brazen chicanery and fraud.
AJ: Let me ask you a question on this because this is the
experience that I had. Watching television, watching the killers, watching
those that are guilty, stand up there as our saviors is incredibly painful.
It’s like watching Ted Bundy being the judge at his own trial. I mean it
is just painful to know who these people are. To see them putting
SH: Yeah, it’s very disturbing and as one who has studied the
theory and concept of dictatorships, I personally interviewed Albert Speer, who
was Hitler’s armaments minister. I interviewed him in 1981 in
AJ: The answer is to expose them as the
terrorists, to show how PNAC [Project for the New American Century] said we
need helpful
SH: Well, that’s why they want repression and, then again,
the ancient old diversion, launch another terrorist attack to get people to
pitch it away. I mean who knows what they’ll do next. I mean their
capacity for ingenious creation of these events is sort of untraveled.
I mean there is no limit. My guess is they are going to try another stunt
– maybe a stunt just before the election to justify getting Bush
reelected. Although it seems like he is running against a straw man or a ghost
right now, anyway. But, my guess is they’ll try some other tactic to get
people’s attention away from 9/11 if it gets to be too much attention.
What you really want is for the public to just lose interest because the public
- and it’s like remember the Alamo, you know, people don’t forget
things like that. To me it’s like the
AJ: We are at a crossroads, I
don’t think they anticipated this much resistance,
SH: Yeah, I hope they are truly wrong and as incompetent as they
are corrupt and guilty. That means their incompetence is exceeded only by their
corruption and their guilt. And eventually, if enough people are going to get
outraged enough, these people in the bureaucracy and in the civil service and
our military, and eventually we can get people under subpoena these individuals
will be exposed.
AJ:
SH: Sure, just give me a call.
AJ: God bless you my friend. Any closing
comments?
SH: My closing comments would be, I think people ought to just
think about the consequence of having someone like Bush in the White House and
the danger for the future that these sort of individuals pose. This is not just
a historical event of the past. This is part of the plan and the camera is
still rolling. They have an agenda. These individuals are extremely dangerous.
They are armed and dangerous. They pose a clear and dangerous threat to every
freedom-loving person not only American but in the whole world.
AJ: You are absolutely right
SH: And they are counting on the repressive Patriot Act and threats
and chief judges and FBI agents threatening people who are exposing them.
That’s what they are counting on.
AJ: But you’re not backing down are you, my friend. SH: No,
I’m not AJ: Well, we all stand with you, my brother, and God bless you.
SH: All right. Thank you.