Endless Sorrow 2004-02-09 3 Signed One word about your Sue and I'll leave you alone. Why continue to inflict your personal fantasies on us? Why do you crave reviews? Is it for ego? You noted before that you thought the 'Two' was a unique thought of yours. I'll have to break the illusion for you there. Many people before you have also thought of the 'Two'. Neo is called the One for a reason - he is the ONE and ONLY. Only he can do things the rebels can't. To move on. 1. The story in general. There is no way Kit can turn into a vampire. The Oracle noted in Reloaded that vampires are exiled programs ["the system's assimilating a program that doing something it's not supposed to be doing"], and the key word is PROGRAMS here. There is no way an organic being like ourselves can change into green code. It is not plausible. 2. The canon characters. Morpheus is NOT a screaming, angry dictatorial captain of the ship. Ditto for Trinity. You don't see them scream and shout in the ship in the movie. And please, Morpheus never sprayed spit into anyone's face before. Neo is nowhere to be found; he's gone into supporting actor mode. Neo does not cuddle Trinity in full view of the public. Neo has more things to talk about than Kit. He has to save the world. He's worrying about losing Trinity. He has better things than engage in idle chatter about the Two. Link is not submissive. He will not go against Morpheus' orders, even when he doesn't believe it is right. 3. Factual inconsistancies. A vampire is not killed by a silver bullet. Werewolves are. And your Magnum? "... wrought like screws... so they hurt a little bit more"? Bullets just hurt. They don't 'hurt more'. The speed of the bullet travelling is also too fast for the flesh to feel. It's only when the bullet enters the flesh then the reciever experiences pain. That one made me laugh. The bouncers [if you don't know the meaning of that word, look it up] don't just ask people if they have guns. They frisk 'em. ALL THE TIME. Especially since this is the Merovingian's bar. The Mero is a very important person, and he should take alot of measures to make sure his well being is protected. If you've seen a picture of a Magnum, it's actually slightly bigger than most of the handguns. It is impossible for Kit to hide two Magnums if bouncers frisk her. If there was a smaller one hidden in her shoe, well that's a different thing. There are no mirrors in any rebels' ships. None. Not at all. You don't see any mirrors in Zion, why should they have them in a ship? Seriously, ELVISH? The programmes to download into the rebels minds must surely have practical uses. There are no Elves in the Matrix. There isn't such a thing as Middle-Earth in the Matrix. And really, to hint over at LoTR is just... wrong. Club Hel. The Merovingian would NOT just let the Two wander straight into his bar and start trash talk. His henchmen would go crazy on her ass immediately once she stepped in. In fact, the bouncers and guards should've already noticed who she was, and would've fired on her immediately. Remember Seraph was fired on even though his guns weren't visible? And since the Two must be as famous as the One, there is no reason why the Mero's henchmen shouldn't identify her. And if you do reply with a 'don't like it, don't read it', think about that sentence for a second. Does it even make sense? 'ta. Her reply: Disclaimer: I do not own, nor claim to own the Matrix trilogy. Note: This is just a simple reply to a review/flame that I received a few days ago. If you are one of my nice reviewers, you are excused from reading it. Reply to Endless Sorrow: No cookie for you. Its flame grilled. Now, I'm not gonna' totally freak about your review, because it was somewhat constructive. -Ish. But I did get pretty angry, so I'll reply to it as best I can, without smashing up my keyboard. "One word about your Sue and I'll leave you alone." This is hardy one word: "Why continue to inflict your personal fantasies on us? Why do you crave reviews? Is it for ego?" Personal fantasies don't have plots and I don't crave reviews, I like handing out virtual cookies. Ego? PAH! "You noted before that you thought the 'Two' was a unique thought of yours. I'll have to break the illusion for you there. Many people before you have also thought of the 'Two'." Really? You think? Wow, I never would have noticed . . . *Sarcasm alert* "Neo is called the One for a reason - he is the ONE and ONLY. Only he can do things the rebels can't." Yeah, Neo is the One, the only One. And Kit is the Two, the only Two. This is my story and I can do whatever I want. "1. The story in general. There is no way Kit can turn into a vampire." You must have missed the bit with Vlad, huh? "The Oracle noted in Reloaded that vampires are exiled programs ["the system's assimilating a program that doing something it's not upposed to be doing"], and the key word is PROGRAMS here. There is no way an organic being like ourselves can change into green code. It is not plausible." Not plausible, doesn't mean it's not possible. Oh, and, what colour are the people's (Who are still plugged into the Matrix) Residual Self Images through Neo's eyes? I wonder . . . Could it be . . . Green? "2. The canon characters. Morpheus is NOT a screaming, angry dictatorial captain of the ship. Ditto for Trinity." Well, if you knew what kind of things Kit had put them through the last few weeks, you would understand. Explanation in later chapters. "You don't see them scream and shout in the ship in the movie." I wonder how the crew of the Neb would react normally. I'm not saying that the Wachowskis f***** it up, I'm just saying, if there was a war going on and I was risking my life a lot of the time, I wouldn't keep quiet about it. "And please, Morpheus never sprayed spit into anyone's face before." You just weren't looking close enough. "Neo is nowhere to be found; he's gone into supporting actor mode. Neo does not cuddle Trinity in full view of the public. Neo has more things to talk about than Kit. He has to save the world. He's worrying about losing Trinity. He has better things than engage in idle chatter about the Two." Neo is sleeping? Is that so hard to think? That he might just be elsewhere? Oh, I needed Neo to cuddle Trin like that cuz' I wanted to make sure that no-one got the idea that he might fall in love with Kit. Just because Neo has to save the world, doesn't mean he's gonna' talk about it twenty four seven. "Link is not submissive. He will not go against Morpheus' orders, even when he doesn't believe it is right." Look, you've said it yourself. He won't go against Morphy's orders, so that's why, when Kit finds him sleeping on the job, he does whatever he can to keep her quiet about it. "3. Factual inconsistancies. A vampire is not killed by a silver bullet. Werewolves are." I take it, by this, that you've never seen "Blade" then? Meh, okay. "And your Magnum? "... wrought like screws... so they hurt a little bit more"? Bullets just hurt. They don't 'hurt more'. The speed of the bullet travelling is also too fast for the flesh to feel. It's only when the bullet enters the flesh then the reciever experiences pain. That one made me laugh." Glad I made you laugh, you might wanna' listen up though. When this specialized bullet enters the flesh, it cuts you up inside. So, it's just the little bit more painful, and probably takes longer to heal. "The bouncers [if you don't know the meaning of that word, look it up] don't just ask people if they have guns. They frisk 'em. ALL THE TIME. Especially since this is the Merovingian's bar." Hahaha! You didn't pay close enough attention sweetheart! Kit's weapons 'Appear' on her, so they wouldn't have been able to see them or feel them anyway! *Laughs* "The Mero is a very important person, and he should take alot of measures to make sure his well being is protected." No S*** Sherlock. "If you've seen a picture of a Magnum, it's actually slightly bigger than most of the handguns." It's actually the biggest handgun in the world. "It is impossible for Kit to hide two Magnums if bouncers frisk her. If there was a smaller one hidden in her shoe, well that's a different thing." They didn't frisk her. And they wouldn't have felt the guns anyway. "There are no mirrors in any rebels' ships. None. Not at all. You don't see any mirrors in Zion, why should they have them in a ship?" Unless you've seen the whole of Zion, and the inside of every ship, I can't take you seriously. "Seriously, ELVISH? The programmes to download into the rebels minds must surely have practical uses. There are no Elves in the Matrix. There isn't such a thing as Middle-Earth in the Matrix. And really, to hint over at LoTR is just...wrong." Seriously. Elvish. Get over it. This programme might not have a practical use, but Kit got bored. And there's nothing wrong with hinting at LOTR. "Club Hel. The Merovingian would NOT just let the Two wander straight into his bar and start trash talk." Don't know if you've noticed, but he didn't know she was coming. "His henchmen would go crazy on her ass immediately once she stepped in. In fact, the bouncers and guards should've already noticed who she was, and would've fired on her immediately." But, if they didn't know what she looks like . . . "Remember Seraph was fired on even though his guns weren't visible?" Seraph was a traitor, they didn't need much of a reason to shoot at him. "And since the Two must be as famous as the One, there is no reason why the Mero's henchmen shouldn't identify her." There's a problem with that. Kit isn't that well known. "And if you do reply with a 'don't like it, don't read it', think about that sentence for a second. Does it even make sense?" Okay, try this: If you don't like it from the beginning, don't read it until the end. Savvy? Now, if you don't read Mary-Sues, you must remember, that all my stories say that they are Mary-Sues somewhere. So . . . Bite me. Just as a final note: Ante Diem Rationis. Out of the four chapters that you posted, you got two good reviews from me. Now, if this is the way you thank your reviewers, then I won't review your work again, understand? Oh, and you have to update, I still think it's good. So, as I said at the start. Your cookie got flame grilled and is now inedible. Kit: *Throws cookie in the bin* And do us all a favour. Don't review anything done by me or my friends, unless you want to say something nice. Later days, dude! I replied her through email: Hello. First thing's first: I've already reported you to ff.net for abuse of your authority as an author. You posted something exclusively to me as a chapter - something that has nothing to do with your story whatsoever. If you have something to say to me, by all means email me, not to post something in public for all to see. I'll copy and paste the words you left for me. I don't know what you consider a flame. I found my review to be constructive, since I did enlighten you on the areas where you just screwed the canon over. If you expect constuctive criticism to be just about spelling and grammar, then you're wrong. It's about the whole package - the logic, the plot, characterization, everything. I did not insult you excessively, neither did I say 'YOUR STORY SUXXXX111!!1!!!!11one' --> Now that is a flame. 1. >>This is hardy (sic) one word I sincerely hope you are not at that age where people take everything literally. 2. >>Personal fantasies don't have plots and I don't crave reviews, I >>like handing out virtual cookies. Ego? PAH! Personal fantasies are honestly up to the individual. Some may have plots, some may not. Don't generalize. From what I see, 'cookies' are given to those who give you a good review. So indirectly, you're telling me you want reviews. Furthermore, in every end of the chapter you keep telling people to review. I don't know about you, but it seems like you do crave reviews. If you tell me in retaliation that you give 'cookies' to people whom you review, go ahead, do that. Then stop writing. 3. >>Yeah, Neo is the One, the only One. And Kit is the Two, the only >>Two. This is my story and I can do whatever I want. Just because it is 'your story' doesn't mean you can go rape the canon into something unrecognizable. When Morpheus turns from wise to dictatorial, Morpheus is no longer Morpheus. He is now only a shell to which your imagined characteristics of him are applied into. There is honestly no point in writing fanfiction when the canon characters are now barely in character and all they have is a name. Write original fiction if you have to. 4. >>Really? You think? Wow, I never would have noticed . . . *Sarcasm alert* You did note it before. You said you thought the creation of the 'Two' was unique. 5. >>You must have missed the bit with Vlad, huh? "1. The story in general. There is no way Kit can turn into a vampire." "The Oracle noted in Reloaded that vampires are exiled programs ["the system's assimilating a program that doing something it's not supposed to be doing"], and the key word is PROGRAMS here. There is no way an organic being like ourselves can change into green code. It is not plausible." Apparently the two sentences did not link into your head. To break it down for you, I made a statement and then elaborated on it. Just because you are angry doesn't mean you can mindlessly rip apart everything I say and try to look smart. 6. >>Not plausible, doesn't mean it's not possible. Oh, and, what colour are the people's (Who are still plugged into the Matrix) Residual Self Images through Neo's eyes? I wonder . . . Could it be . . . Green? You've already said it yourself. Kit is not part of the Matrix anymore, and she is no longer in green code. Therefore it is impossible to have her turn into a vampire. To elaborate further, programs are not humans. Understand the difference. Humans only have their minds plugged into the Matrix. Their residual self image, is as you noted, in green code. The keyword is residual. Green code is NOT their true bodies, and therefore cannot turn into programs. 7. >>Well, if you knew what kind of things Kit had put them through the last few weeks, you would understand. Explanation in later chapters. Once you have to explain why so-and-so happens out of the story, it's already a sign of badfic. There is no need for authors to convey what they want outside of what they write. Morpheus never got beyond frustration. Even when in Revolutions he and Niobe were struggling to get back to help Zion, he never got beyond frustration. Even when he was going to fight the Agent, he didn't get angry. He didn't get angry when the Mero was in control of the conversation in Reloaded and Revolutions. He didn't get angry when his ship blew up. He didn't get angry when Neo told him the One was never meant to end anything. He will not get angry over something 'he went through the last few weeks', because he has experienced alot more that would have made him angry. Look, I can give a thousand examples why Trinity and Morpheus will not be angry over an incident. Just watch the movies again. 8. >>I wonder how the crew of the Neb would react normally. I'm not saying that the Wachowskis f***** it up, I'm just saying, if there was a war going on and I was risking my life a lot of the time, I wouldn't keep quiet about it. Well, they reacted calmly. Locke didn't punch the wall or anything when the machines broke through. Neo never complained [or got angry] when he realized he had to save the world, and 'risking [his] life a lot of the time'. Since he's the One, he should be risking his life more than the Two. 9. "And please, Morpheus never sprayed spit into anyone's face before." >>You just weren't looking close enough. So you just want to exploit a movie mistake to your advantage? If he did spray spit, he sure as hell didn't do it intentionally. Your fic suggests otherwise. 10. >>Neo is sleeping? Is that so hard to think? That he might just be elsewhere? Oh, I needed Neo to cuddle Trin like that cuz' I wanted to make sure that no-one got the idea that he might fall in love with Kit. Just because Neo has to save the world, doesn't mean he's gonna' talk about it twenty four seven. The only few lines Neo had in your fic were about Kit. The purpose of a first chapter is to attract the audience, define what your story is about and implement the beginnings of characterization. Thus, Neo's first impression to me was just a supporting actor. He's not trying to save the world anymore. People will 'get the idea' if you suggest something implicit or explicit between Kit and Neo. Kit had no contact with Neo whatsoever in your fic, and therefore doesn't suggest that she will fall in love with Neo. You didn't have to make Neo cuddle Trinity. It suggests nothing. 11. >>Look, you've said it yourself. He won't go against Morphy's orders, so that's why, when Kit finds him sleeping on the job, he does whatever he can to keep her quiet about it. Exactly. He does not go against Morpheus' orders, and thus will not allow Kit into the Matrix in the first place. 12. >>I take it, by this, that you've never seen "Blade" then? Meh, okay. May I remind you that you're writing in the Matrix fandom here. If you want to write about how logic works in the Blade world, go there. Secondly, it appalls me that you would consider something on another movie accurate. You should have done research, and you would know that Vampires cannot be killed by a silver bullet. Crosses either. They can make the vampire flee, but will not kill them. Unless the bearer's faith his absolute, the cross is rendered useless. Do research. It helps your fic look better once you know the facts. 13. >>When this specialized bullet enters the flesh, it cuts you up inside. So, it's just the little bit more painful, and probably takes longer to heal. Let me get this straight: Bullets just hurt. They don't hurt more. When you say 'probably', you don't know your facts again. Do research. Well then, you should have explained the bullets in detail before. Your description wasn't enough. Why tell me now? [by 'me', I do operate under the assumption that your reply was just an immature way of replying when my email was plainly there for all to see] 14. >>Hahaha! You didn't pay close enough attention sweetheart! Kit's weapons 'Appear' on her, so they wouldn't have been able to see them or feel them anyway! *Laughs* Do you remember something called the 'White Room'? It is the only place where they can create objects out of nowhere. Neo could not make his guns appear from nowhere. Trinity could not. Morpheus could not. If you've played Enter the Matrix, you'll remember that Niobe had to go back into the White Room for more firearms. I see that you didn't take any offense from my 'check up the dictionary' statement. Glad to see that. 15. >>No S*** Sherlock. "The Mero is a very important person, and he should take alot of measures to make sure his well being is protected." "The bouncers [if you don't know the meaning of that word, look it up] don't just ask people if they have guns. They frisk 'em. ALL THE TIME. Especially since this is the Merovingian's bar." Apparently these two sentences didn't link up into your brain as well. May I explain. Since the Mero is a very important person, security should step up by loads. Thus, frisking the people who come into the bar is a form of security. 16. >>It's actually the biggest handgun in the world. And your point is? It is bigger. That's what I said. 17. >>They didn't frisk her. And they wouldn't have felt the guns anyway. I'm really astounded by your reply. 'They didn't frisk her'. Just like that. You have failed to explain why they didn't frisk her, since the Mero is an important person and should take every precaution and thus frisking must come into play here. About the guns - see point 14 above. 18. >>Unless you've seen the whole of Zion, and the inside of every ship, I can't take you seriously. Unless you've actually seen a mirror in Zion or any ship, I can't take you seriously either. A mirror is not logical as well. The rebels are fighting for their lives here. They have no time to go and primp about their looks. Plus the earth's core is made of iron. To remind you, they live nearer to the core, and most of the metal they extract would be from the old pipelines or they used machines to extract it from other areas. Not silver. You don't see a smidgen of silver anywhere outside the Matrix. They would also have to extract and manufacture the silver through machines. Since they're fighting for survival here, most of the machines they make would be for warfare and survival, not for personal use. 19. >>Seriously. Elvish. Get over it. This programme might not have a practical use, but Kit got bored. And there's nothing wrong with hinting at LOTR. The programme that is available on a ship must have practical uses. There is no point in carrying a useless programme on board a ship where the rebels plug into the Matrix. LotR came from J.R.R Tolkien. Since you have already admitted there is no thing as Middle-Earth, we can safely conlude that you're talking about a book, not something that is real. Since the real world is nearing 2199, as Morpheus said before, and unless Zion has run out of anything to read and time to train for battle, they will not dig up a book Tolkien wrote in the 1950s. There also will not be machines to do the printing for them - Zion has a small population, why should they need machines to publish books? In fact, I wouldn't think that they would have any Tolkien text at all. The machines would have destroyed everything on the surface of the earth when they bulit their city. 20. >>Don't know if you've noticed, but he didn't know she was coming. That wasn't my point. The Mero did not fire on her straightaway. He should have. 21. >>But, if they didn't know what she looks like . . . >>There's a problem with that. Kit isn't that well known. Amazing. Kit is the Two, and yet no one knows her. The One however, is being used as hostage in return for the Oracle's eyes. A problem? Yes there is. The One is very well known. When you have someone as 'unique' as the Two, someone who can whip guns out of nowhere like the Two, who can fly like the Two, who wouldn't know her like the One? And really, since you made Kit the Two, you're looking for some popularity here [since it's a big spinoff from the One] 22. >>Seraph was a traitor, they didn't need much of a reason to shoot at him. A traitor? Where did you get that? There are different interpretations, of course, to each his/her own, but to blindly say that Seraph was a traitor without proof doesn't convince me much. 23. >>If you don't like it from the beginning, don't read it until the end. Savvy? >>Now, if you don't read Mary-Sues, you must remember, that all my stories say that they are Mary-Sues somewhere. So . . . Bite me. I guess that all that got into your head was my take on the Sue. I merely asked for your opinion why you chose to write about Sues when people don't like it at all. Before you tell me that alot of people like Sues, hold on for a sec. You've only seen the minority. I've been around on ff.net for a few years and I've seen it gone from bad to worse. Do you know on livejournal there are so many communities dedicated to posting Sues at ff.net and ridiculing the badfic out there [and sad to say, yours was one of them]? In regard to your first fic, it is already obvious that not many people like Sues and they took the time to tell you that. You ignored them all and ploughed on. That's why no one wants to criticize your other fics now. You have proven yourself not to take constructive criticism and well, there wasn't any point in spending time to review to you. Apparently your ego has grown so big that you think your fics are perfect and all you demand is praise. To continue, the rest of my review said nothing about your Sue. Nothing. Not criticizing you why you brought a Two into the mix, not criticizing you about flawless Sue, nothing. I brought to your attention about your inconsistancies in your fic in relation to the movie, the OOC characters, the illogical occurances in your fic. I had never once mentioned your Sue after that. I never reviewed you for the sake of criticizing your Sue. I wrote the review because I wanted you to know you were screwing up the canon badly. I had taken out my time to point out these problems, because you would've continued screwing it. However, I see now my review was just a waste of time to you. 24. >>So, as I said at the start. Your cookie got flame grilled and is now inedible. Kit: *Throws cookie in the bin* I don't need 'virtual cookies' to sustain my health. I don't know why you're getting into such a big deal that I don't have a cookie. You could've used a better conclusion. 26. >>And do us all a favour. Don't review anything done by me or my friends, unless you want to say something nice. You have made the ultimate contradiction. Let me copy and paste the stuff from your bio. "What you put in that review box is supposed to be constructive criticism (sp), or general praise ^_^ But flaming does not help the author, it just makes them feel bad. No-one likes a b*****d and doing something like flame someone badly is just evil. Next time you even think of doing something like that agian, try to remember what a conscience feels like. Next time you go to flame, either say something nice, give constructive criticism (sp) or dont say anything at all." I have made a constructive criticism. Yet, now you say that if I don't want to say something nice, I shouldn't review at all? Or should I paste these two sentences side by side so you can see your contradiction? You have shown yourself that you cannot take criticism. 25. >>Now, if this is the way you thank your reviewers, then I won't review your work again, understand? You misinterpret. I do thank you for reviewing. You were my inspiration to continue the fic after I wanted to abandon it. However, you cannot expect me to say the same thing to you when your fic is riddled with problems. It will be a lie. While everyone [as well as I] enjoy praise, I see no one had taken the time to point out the problems in my fic. Only in retaliation to a fic I reviewed before an author's supporter angrily came to point out all my mistakes. I understand that you enjoy my fic, and maybe you honestly have nothing bad to say about it. If you review or not it's fine with me now, because I already know you like it. You've reviewed twice, and it's a wonderful thing. Thank you. To end, I spent quite an amount of time writing this thing. And I also thank you for taking the time to read it to this point. That's how much I want you to know how badly your fic has done [I had three people email me thanking me for reviewing you]. At the most just let me know if this has gotten through to you. - Endless Sorrow She replied: To Endless Sorrow, Wow, you have an answer for everything. Huh. I read it all the way through, found it very interesting although i'm not the idiot you think i am. It's cool that you replied, and i realize now that i shouldn't have posted the reply on FF.net. The next chapter i did was a little better, though rushed. I tried my best to put the chars into charactor. Still, they probably arent perfect. But nobody is perfect. I would reply to your email more fully, but i really cant be bothered. I had a rough day at college and i'm pretty tired. Just know that some of the things i wrote in my reply you misenterpreted. Thanx for your email. -- Kit P.s, who are the three people who emailed you? I'm intrigued. P.p.s, i wont stop writting. I replied: If you'd take the time to reply, I'd appreciate it. And please spell 'misinterpret' and 'writing' properly. She goes: Okay, firstly. It's an email and i don't care how my spelling is. Secondly, what do you want to hear? Seriously? Why do you have to be so cold? If i you mind too much, i'd like to drop the convo. I don't give a damn anymore and it's taking up my time. Thanx -- Kit Finally: You don't give a damn? Well, I do. Your stories are not perfect, Kit. They're not even considered as average. Taking up your time? Isn't writing crap like this taking up YOUR time? You know there were reviewers who flamed other stories and added one of your fics to their expletive vocabulary? It's that bad. I've tried to tell you how bad your fics were. Apparently, your ego is so big the seriousness of the situation isn't even registering in your head. You whine to all your other friends about recieving a flame. You have made so many contradictions on your part it's not even funny. It's pure hypocrisy. You want cold? Now this is cold. That was plain constructive criticism. You whine, contradict and expect your immature friends to give your support just because someone pointed out all the mistakes in your fic makes you stupid and an idiot. My reason for calling you that is purely justified. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Do you want me to elaborate on that as well? You will now thus forgive me on ridiculing you on livejournal. And by the way, did you notice you deleted your chapter instead of the author's notes you made to me? Fine, I'll drop it. Now. - Endless Sorrow