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<Ali> Hi Fred
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<Ali>:-))
<zoemcfan>is it working now?
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<PhalKon>cool
<Ali>yes
<Ali>everything's ok now
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<PhalKon>thanks
<Ali>well you do not need the ops with the java but..:-))
<Ali>np
<PhalKon>yeah
<zoemcfan>okay so there's about 20 minutes until the time
<Ali>well, I hope we won't be all 3 chatting here :-))
<PhalKon>alright
<Ali>yep fred
<Ali>oh fred I want to ask you
<Ali>how do you get the connections (of magazines and all that ) about Zoe?
<Ali>you should be a very known webmaster or..
<Ali>I don't know, you get everything on time about Zoe...
<zoemcfan>I don't know, people just email me or I look around on the net
<zoemcfan>I have been on the net for over 10 years, people know me
<zoemcfan>from other stuff
<zoemcfan>But not in the "celeb" site business
<Ali>what do you work on, apart from Zoe's fan site?
<zoemcfan>So that didn't help
<zoemcfan>I used to cruise around usenet a lot way to much
<Ali>Guys, check my page if the error is corrected
<zoemcfan>Not so much doing web pages that got people like Anand rich
<zoemcfan>But I did get some free hardware and news occasionally
<Ali>how old r ya?
<zoemcfan>Hmmm.... in my 20's
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<Ali>what is your profession? hmm let me say, do you go to univercity, or, are you so much into web business that you think to work as a webmaster - net spider?
<zoemcfan>I just mess about with the web and have a real job
<zoemcfan>I guess it's a real job, nothing fancy
<zoemcfan>I'd rather not say too much, but....
<Ali>well...
<Ali>you may not if you don't want to but, you know we're curious.
<zoemcfan>It's sort of connected to aspects of the movie biz, a bit anyway
<zoemcfan>Not like in the "celeb" way or anything
<Ali>excuse me, what do you mean saying "biz"
<zoemcfan>biz= short for business
<Ali>oh ok
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<Ali>wellcome back marshall
<PhalKon>thanx
<Ali>hi vortex
<Vortex62>hello!
<Ali>wellcome to the chat
<zoemcfan>hello everyone, so far
<PhalKon>hey
<Vortex62>tks
<PhalKon>?
<Ali>phalkon check my page for the error correction!
<PhalKon>ok
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<Ali>-?-
<salrathor>hello
<PhalKon>interesting
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<Ali>hi, what was the problem with the topic?
<PhalKon>yup its fixed
<PhalKon>the site that is
<Ali>salrathor? got any explanation bout this?
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<PhalKon>mmm perhaps we should use full spelling in this chat...cause it will be put over web sites
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<PhalKon>i see
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<salrathor>see
<Ali>u better stop it
<PhalKon>this channel is op enforced
<PhalKon>not
<salrathor>yes
<PhalKon>lets better not do that again
<salrathor>listen
<salrathor>if you are usin mirc its easy
<salrathor>coz
<PhalKon>yes we know
<Ali>:-))
<salrathor>this server is chanserv and nickserv and ther both down
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<PhalKon>ok lets leave it like that
<Ali>I agree
<salrathor>ok
<Vortex62>looks good to me
<Ali>so, we better stop messing and start talking about Zoe
<PhalKon>ok guys
<PhalKon>it begins from here
<Ali>go on
<PhalKon>no s**t allowed
<Vortex62>u using mirc or java ali?
<PhalKon>hey fred since ur the top of list here...should you put up a proper greeting message?
<Ali>So, first question comes, how did it started? How did you become a Zoe fan? and what makes you a real fan of her? First answer, fred...!
<Ali>(yes vortex)
<zoemcfan>Okay, I'll answer
<zoemcfan>It wasn't that long ago
<zoemcfan>Actually the Diagnosis Murder episode
<zoemcfan>A nice one to begin with
<zoemcfan>About a few seconds (or maybe a minute) I realized something really
<zoemcfan>cool about zoe
<zoemcfan>That was in the back of my mind for awhile
<Ali>( by the way, I all thank you for attending the chat, and please, If you got any questions, simply open a private window to me and say it to me, not to the room. Thanks, Enjoy the chat)
<zoemcfan>about 1 1/2 years I guess
<zoemcfan>I would see her on TV and think "cool, Zoe's on" but not
<zoemcfan>that much involved in it
<zoemcfan>Then I noticed the D&D stuff and the site Don put together
<zoemcfan>dndmovie.com
<zoemcfan>We're from the same state, Don and I
<zoemcfan>That's one of the interesting bits of info
<zoemcfan>Then I instantly one day figured I'd make a site since Don had
<zoemcfan>gotten some nice info to get me started
<zoemcfan>And there was no real site
<zoemcfan>which was dissappointing to me
<zoemcfan>so there you go
<Vortex62>cool Fred
<zoemcfan>Oh, I had missed her in Sliders
<PhalKon>thank you
<zoemcfan>I started watching Sliders about the end of season 3 when Kari was
<zoemcfan>on there
<zoemcfan>Okay, everyone else?
<Vortex62>i'll go next
<Ali>okey then go on...
<Vortex62>as you can tell i am a huge Sliders fan from my website
<Vortex62>www.earth62.net
<Vortex62>and when Zoe first appeared in the Ep Double Cross
<Vortex62>and said "Wow this lady is awesome!!"
<Vortex62>that was in 1997 sometime
<Vortex62>ever since then, alot of Sliders fans wanted to see her again
<Vortex62>in upcoming episodes but it never happened :(
<Vortex62>she is prob the best known villian to be on Sliders
<Vortex62>then when Fred started his website...
<Vortex62>i didnt realize what other work she was involved wiht
<Vortex62>thanks again Fred for the site :)
* Vortex62 steps down from his box
<Ali>:-))
<PhalKon>I guess it would be my turn?
<zoemcfan>GA
<Ali>yes, for sure..
<PhalKon>Well I started more recently...when I watched DnD
<PhalKon>I have been a real fan of Role Playing Games like Baldur's Gate series, and of course DnD it self
<PhalKon>and I appreciated the depth of those...
<PhalKon>when i heard that DnD was out in australia I rushed to watch it
<PhalKon>and that is when I noticed something very different in Zoe compared to the rest of the cast
<PhalKon>As an actress - I believe she is one of the most creative..
<PhalKon>havent you ever wondered why other famous actresses feel a bit...controlled by the script of the movies they star in?
<PhalKon>this is not the case in Zoe
<PhalKon>she had this ensorcelling sense of wilfulness and humor about her i have yet to see in anyone
<PhalKon>hence her acting reflects her personality
<PhalKon>which is powerful in both humor and seriousness
<PhalKon>But then this personality is not so treasured by many other people, but everyone in this room should have that same feel, and that is what makes us fans
<PhalKon>to conclude, Zoe acts my inspiration, encouragement, and of course my favourite actress...
<Ali>great word, marshall!
<PhalKon>thank you
<zoemcfan>thanks
<Ali>well, I guess it's my turn...
<Ali>hmm
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<PhalKon>your turn Ali
<Ali>To tell the truth, my "Zoe" idea in mind is slightly different from yours.
<Ali>let me start from the beginning.
<Ali>I am not involved in any FRP, apart from Tolkien ( I really love him)
<Ali>I went to see D&D when my friends (who are FRP addicts) insisted...
<Ali>this was the first time I saw Zoe, and when all my brain functions stopped working during the film
<Ali>:-))
<zoemcfan>:>
<Ali>I really don't know sliders or the invisible man, as I live in Turkey. So, I just thought she was a "movie star".
<Ali>that she had taken minor roles in some films and D&D was one of those.
<Ali>But, after coming home and making a search through internet and bursting into Fred's web, I 've seen that, D&D was an exception. It's not D&D that made many people "Zoe Fan"
<Ali>It's those TV shows that prepared the foundation, and D&D made the building onto it.
<Ali>( that works for many fans that I chat with)
<Ali>but my situation is not like that, I saw her as MArina, and I became her fan by seeing her as Marina
<Ali>So, you may say, I am a "Marina" fan.
<Ali>Now comes the most important question... Is Zoe really like MArina, in her other films and real life?
<Ali>Well, I don't have the answer. That's why I look forward receiving Fred's CDs.
<Ali>So, what made me admire MArina in D&D?
<Ali>Well first of all, I agree that she's acting awesome. But that is not the major thing that makes Zoe unique.
<Ali>She has such a face and voice tone that ...well stops my brain functions.
<Ali>She's so beautiful, yes. And with the harmony of her beauty and brilliant acting skills, she's the "idol of idols" (Remember snails!?!)
<Ali>to us, fans.
<Ali>I know it's been so long talk but I want to mention something more...
<Ali>I have been waiting to say this to fans like you.
<Ali>have you read the transcript of SCIFI channel with Zoe?
<Ali>I guess you did.
<Vortex62>hehe yeah it's on my site as well
<Ali>There was something weird with the words Zoe says.
<Ali>:-)) yea vortex I really love your site, if only I could watch sliders.
<PhalKon>I think that too ill check up on it now
<zoemcfan>what do you mean?
<zoemcfan>"weird"
<PhalKon>(a bit moderated perhaps?)
<Ali>I don't know how to say this but, her sentences are not as "hospitable & friendly & warm-blooded" as I had expected from the "idol of idols" in my mind...
<Ali>for example...
<Ali>as far as I can remember,
<Ali>in one part she says "if you don't like the film, It's not my fault" ( please correct me if I had made a mistake)
<zoemcfan>Well, it is true, she just didn't want to be in trouble and get flamed
<zoemcfan>if the film wasn't good since she, herself, did a good job
<Ali>that's not the way you talk to people that admire you. She could have said much more fluttering things to fans, for example "I love fans and I plan a web page for you, I hope all of you liked the film, your love to me makes me more powerfull"
<zoemcfan>But I think i know what you mean
<zoemcfan>Though I didn't find anything wrong with the comment
<Ali>could you get it?
<Ali>any comments about this chat transcript?
<Ali>anyone agrees or disagrees me?
<PhalKon>hold on let me analyse
<zoemcfan>I think sometimes it's hard to express things correctly with typed words
<Vortex62>oh i see where she said it
<Vortex62>this was the question to her: What does it feel like to be either idolized or hated, by millions of gamers all over depending on how the movie turns out?
<PhalKon>yes...and another reason...the guys who asked the questions have the questions worded like paparazzis
<zoemcfan>This is different than a talk show since those are somewhat planned in
<zoemcfan>advance, a chat is a bunch of unexpected questions thrown at you
<Ali>vortex, that was only one part of this "unexpected" situation. you feel this within all the chat, she's not like a star who's so into the fans. For example, i see she has no sense of humour.
<PhalKon>also it is not hard to understand that the SCIFI site is commericial, so this also concerns Zoe's job
<zoemcfan>Yeah, sometimes I wondered about her sense of humor, but I think she
<zoemcfan>laughs a lot more than we think
<zoemcfan>This is what I can determine from reading the various magazine articles
<PhalKon>about that chat transcrpit I think the problem is that they have edited it later on, for example, they made each line full sentences...
<PhalKon>this makes the words not linked together
<Vortex62>i took the chat directly form Mirc and posted it
<Ali>and what i fear is "Is this a real Zoe personality? not kind and not that much friendly to 10 or 20 chatters, but an "idol" for millions with the movies of her???
<Vortex62>i agree, this is her first chat with fans that i am aware of and she might have been uneasy talkin to the public
<Ali>excuse me vortex but I don't think a movie star would be uneasy while talking with public, as least we're not in front of her, she should be at ease in front of the PC :-))
<zoemcfan>I do know, at least was told, she laughed at one of the pictures on www.allthings.zoe
<Vortex62>oh really...
<Ali>well fred tell us about Zoe&your site.. is she visiting it or what..???
<Vortex62>also, is Cassie actually her sister from the egroup?
<zoemcfan>Well, in the SCIFI chat was the first time I was aware she had visited
<zoemcfan>the site. At least she answered that question.
<Vortex62>;)
<zoemcfan>Then I guess in the guestbook, which I had no idea about until someone
<zoemcfan>emailed me that I should look there.
<PhalKon>hey how about one of us go chase down a SCIFI guy on email and and get the motives of the chat clear...and put this gloomy topic out of question?
<Vortex62>hehehe good luck..scifi not very cooperative
<zoemcfan>Well, I guess everyone gets something different about the chat.
<Ali>oh let me emphasize something guys...
<zoemcfan>She was on a talk show here, The X Show, but I didn't get to see it
<zoemcfan>That would have told you more than the SCIFI chat probably
<Ali>ok ok
<Ali>let me say something..
<Ali>well I was a Julia Roberts fan earlier, and Sandra Bullock..
<Ali>not like Zoe of course...
<Ali>but
<Ali>I know
<Ali>how they do keep the attention onto themselves and build a bridge between the fans and themselves. I really know how it feels
<Ali>I have attended many chats with Julia
<Ali>By the way
<Ali>I am not less than 6 years into those internet issues..
<Ali>And, well yes we do use swear words in our real life
<Ali>we say bad things when we're in trouble and we're nervous
<Ali>but
<Ali>As a star, a gentle actress, an "IDOL" female, a person like i say "The QUEEN of the world" , she should ABSOLUTELY NOT use such words like "scum" or I don't remember
<PhalKon>and things like "I suck"
<Ali>but it really took my attention, not only chat transcript, in many of the interview links in fred's web. I read all of it and it's really frustrating to see the "perfect female" using such words..
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<Ali>ZoeMcLellan: and I suck
<Ali>what do you think of this fred?
<CalQdeX>sorry iam late
<PhalKon>very...
<PhalKon>missed out heaps
<Vortex62>she was talkin about belling dancing when she said that
<zoemcfan>I thought it made her more real, but it was a little surprising
<zoemcfan>People actually worry about me sometime when they say bad words and
<zoemcfan>talk about bad subjects, but ....
<zoemcfan>they don't know I probably can do worse than them in such subjects
<CalQdeX>WHAT????
<CalQdeX>she was here?????
<PhalKon>no
<Vortex62>hi Cal
<Vortex62>her chat transcript
<CalQdeX>NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
<Vortex62>lol
<Ali>calqudex, relax. She was not here..
<CalQdeX>ok next time give out the times for all time zones
<CalQdeX>wherethe chat trans?
<Ali> http://www.scifi.com/transcripts/2000/zoemclellan.html
<PhalKon>ok
<Ali>calq, you will read about our chat in my web, I will upload the transcript.
<PhalKon>yeah i was confused and got here 1 hour ealier cause i was in daylight savings
<zoemcfan>So what I got was the feeling that this person was more of a "regular" person
<zoemcfan>Although I guess Ali would prefer that to be different somehow
<Ali>Well I don't know, CET or GMT is the universal time settings. I really don't think I will be into writing each time zone.. Don2t you see we're 5 people here...
<CalQdeX>what ru talking about?
<CalQdeX>zoemcfan
<CalQdeX>is that fred?
<zoemcfan>yes, we're talking about the SCIFI chat transcript
<CalQdeX>ah
<Ali>calqdex, please stay calm, this chat is in record and we don't talk unless the talker stops- finishes his speech. If you got something to say, Use privates.
<Ali>thanks :-))
<CalQdeX>lol
<CalQdeX>ok
<Ali>I feel like chanserv
<Ali>:-))
<CalQdeX>to bad ryan couldnt come
<Ali>fred, u say that person was more of a regular one.. you do mean Zoe?
<zoemcfan>yeah, that's what I mean
<Ali>then,
<zoemcfan>But since I don't know her, I don't think I can or should judge her
<PhalKon>As dedicated fans, we probably all think of her as someone unique...but the case is that everyone has their own troubles, and Zoe, as an actress, will probably shift jobs a lot...note that all those chat records are done by commercial organisation that she might want to work for
<Ali>well you are so right, but we cannot claim the opposite of the fact, you are the most informed person between us about Zoe and her personality, don't you think so?
<CalQdeX>you think they paid her to chat?
<PhalKon>I think it is called how she wants to build herself...by making te companies think that she is serious about the acting
<CalQdeX>have anyof you talk with ryan on icq?
<PhalKon>nick?
<CalQdeX>one winged angel
<zoemcfan>I really have no idea, I mean it not like she is going to drop me a message because everyone in that industry has to be careful of crazy people/stalkers and stuff
<PhalKon>no my toolbar screwed
<CalQdeX>well i dont know if i shouldbe saying this but he has come in contact with zoe
<CalQdeX>or a zoe
<CalQdeX>=-p
<Vortex62>fred have u heard anything about her official website?
<Vortex62>i know she has the domain name already
<zoemcfan>No about the website
<Ali>Where does she live now?
<CalQdeX>she has lived in la from like 5 years now
<CalQdeX>right fred?
<CalQdeX>she sed in the dragon interveiw
<zoemcfan>According to the info, I think only 3 or so.
<CalQdeX>3?
<CalQdeX>sliders ep was made in like 96
<zoemcfan>Sliders is shot in Canada I think
<zoemcfan>Or was, I guess
<Vortex62>Season 3 in La
<zoemcfan>Really, wow
<CalQdeX>i can find out jas
<zoemcfan>Most of her work was done in Orgeon
<PhalKon>Im confused
<CalQdeX>no
<zoemcfan>Or 4 years, depending on the 2000/2001 thing
<CalQdeX>she took acting classing in orgun and moved to la
<Ali>hmm please stop it
<zoemcfan>You want a new subject?
<Ali>im getting confused with every part..
<Vortex62>so when is the next chat?
<CalQdeX>yes
<zoemcfan>LOL again
<Ali>ok then
<Ali>now
<CalQdeX>i thot the chat was over
<Ali>no not yet.
<Vortex62>cya later folks have to run
<CalQdeX>cya
<PhalKon>ok
<Vortex62>later
<PhalKon>back just done breakfast
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<Ali>ok
<Ali>guys
<Ali>me and fred
<Ali>we will work on this fake cassie matter
<PhalKon>lol
<Ali>cos we have info bout her bits and pieces
<Ali>so
<Ali>wait for us, and cut it up here. It's getting bored
<Ali>ok calq
<zoemcfan>anyone want to comment on the websites?
<CalQdeX>iam going to be making one real soon
<PhalKon>yep
<zoemcfan>I might spend time to put more screenshots, or at least improve the ones I have
<PhalKon>ferd
<CalQdeX>a place to chat and talk about her and get some info
<PhalKon>fred that is...the layout can be improved
<PhalKon>the color is great...but i prefer the greyish purple layout
<PhalKon>and try tables to put together pieces
<zoemcfan>greyish purple?
<PhalKon>frames are usually no go and heaps of browsers
<PhalKon>check the color scheme on this site:
<PhalKon>www.gamersdepot.com
<zoemcfan>there's a no frames option too
<PhalKon>maybe flash?
<Ali>oh it's a hard work
<zoemcfan>also, the site has to work in low res for WebTV
<zoemcfan>that means like 512x384
<zoemcfan>which it does
<zoemcfan>very few web sites do this
<PhalKon>oh ok
<zoemcfan>I get some regular WebTV people so I need it to be okay with them, who know it may be Zoe's relatives or something
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<zoemcfan>well it's probably time to go
<PhalKon>we dun gave webTV in Australia...
<PhalKon>ok
<zoemcfan>Hopefully I will be getting pictures from the Megacon from someone who goes
<Ali>oh i hope so
<zoemcfan>Funny thing, I mentioned to some other people, I'm putting stuff together that will be displayed a the
same Convention Center a few days after the Megacon
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<CalQdeX>dum inet
<CalQdeX>what did i miss
<Ali>nothing though
<CalQdeX>fred you should really get icq
<Ali>:-)
<zoemcfan>spent way too much time here LOL
<CalQdeX>o fred
<CalQdeX>what comp you use fer ur domain name
<zoemcfan>it's not too hard to find out.... :)
<CalQdeX>?
<PhalKon>geocities?
<CalQdeX>no
<CalQdeX>the domain name
<zoemcfan>yeah I know
<zoemcfan>he he
<Ali>hey guys
<Ali>I got to go
<Ali>thr record ends here..
<Ali>:-))
<Ali>it's 12:15 AM here and i am about to fell asleep
<Ali>the chat lasted 2:30 hours
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<zoemcfan>I'm going too, been a bit long
<Ali>bye
<zoemcfan>bye

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