Sat Guru of the Western World.
Nobody ever appointed him, nobody believe him,
everybody are sick and tired of his endless preaching, of his silly interpretations of some of the world's most excellent writers - not to mention his assertions that they were God in human form or Perfect Masters, just like Michael Martin thinks he is himself.
Yes, that's right - he really believes it,
that's how far out he is.
Here is a post from a Yahoo-group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/radhasoamistudies/message/93823
Proof that Michael Martin is a fraud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Obviously happy_shine wrote a letter to The Radhasoami Satsang Beas about
Michael Martin.)
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F28B21FAB
10/6/99
"Thanks for your letter of 7th October with the enclosure of the internet postings of Mr. Martin. As you may have seen there are numerous negative references or aspersion cast on the Master. In addition there are many claims from this self-appointed guru. The Master does not reply to spurious remarks or invitations to dialogues of this nature. My personal view from your comments about Michael Martin and from his postings would be to ignore his remarks. I can see he doesn't respond favorably or openly to criticism. There will always be imitation where there is the genuine. Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing. You are obviously perceptive enough to see the incongruity of what is being presented by him, and what is the reality, i.e., Huzur Maharaji's appointment of one successor, Master Gurinder Singh Dhillon.I would appreciate your not bringing my name into the picture, only because it might open the door for unecessary commentary naming the Master's representative as participating in internet dialogue. I wish to honor the Master's wishes 100%."
10/19/99
Message 18060 of 18097 RS Studies Club
Re: Love rambling gckier
(49/M/Santa Barbara CA) 11/6/00 8:20 pm
Actually the recent quotes from the RSSB rep were in response to a
letter I wrote to Baba Gurinder Singh ji asking about Michael's claims
to sainthood and successorship. The letter was replied to by the representative, who asked later I not mention his name on the web, but who has often been mentioned here by others. Since the original letter was directed to the Beas Master, and replied to by the Rep, I can only assume that it was with the knowledge of the Master there.
I have no doubts about that.
Michael makes a big deal out of the fact that the response was from a
rep and not the Master, however one should have very little doubt that MM does not have any type of endorsement at all from Gurinder Singh Ji.
"Regarding Mr. Michael Martin, I have heard his name mentioned before, alleging some level of Mastership. There are many self-proclaimed Master or Gurus, both in America and abroad. As you may know, Huzur Maharaj Charan Singh, dictated a will in later May of 1990 in which he named Gurinder Singh Dhillon as his successor. There are no other successors which were appointed by Huzur Maharaj Charan Singh Ji. I leave it to you to interpret the claims made by this person or others with similar claims or motives. The present Master may send you a reply on this matter."
RS Studies Club....
Dear Mike,
If Gurinder deny's you....it is catch 22 and there is no way you can get around it. No way... Your own words do it to you. What you aren't considering is that the Anami Purush that you converse with, could just be an invention of the mental region, of your mind...Which is what I've said all along. How can Anami Purush, who is above all the pairs of opposites, be offended? The more you describe Anami Purush's attributes, the more convinced I become that you are deceiving yourself.
Wes
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A person is not a guru worth listening to or being open to if:
(1) He or she insists that no rules apply to him/her.
(2) He or she insists that lactating women are sexual temptresses.
(3) He or she insists that Emily Dickinson, Shakespeare and other
historical figures were Sat Gurus.
(4) He or she threatens anyone who expresses a dissenting opinion or
anyone who leaves a particular spiritual path with God wrath and/or rape.
(5) He or she compares himself or herself with Guru Nanak, Jesus,
Kabir, and other great and deeply loved spiritual teachers.
(6) And finally he or she insists that he or she converses with Anami
Purush, God, Jesus and/or any other Supreme Being receiving
instructions directly in his or her meditation that are not subject to
question by you or anyone else, for that matter.
If such a person exhibits this and any other peculiar signs/behavior
it is fair to judge this behavior as a sign of mental disease.
Suggestions for psychiatric treatment may or may not be well received
by someone who exhibits such severe forms of delusion and mental illness.
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Michael Martin, you are clearly mentally ill...please do seek psychiatric treatment. You are in severe need of therapy and perhaps some anti-psychotic drug treatment.
For your poor wife's sake...I hope you get help as soon as possible. If money is an issue you might look into applying for state aide or at least locating a psychiatrist who would be willing to take you on within a sliding scale assessment of your financial state. I'm sure 15 minutes into your explanation of what you regard yourself to be...the psychiatrist would take pity on you and agree to take you on as a patient.
In the meantime, if you insist on bringing your hateful spewing thoughts into this forum, I will happily point out your insanity everytime that I feel this is appropriate.
You are a very sick man, Michael. Get help...seek treatment and I'm
sure you will be grateful that you did. More importantly those who have had to put up with your insanity will benefit. Do it for them if
you are too embarassed to do this for yourself.
Comment by Karen Sykes: Unfortunately Michael is guilty of violating all 6 points above - I know from experience. I alsosuggested that he is mentally ill, and he banned me from a Google group and called what I said an ad hominem. It was not, it is just so obvious when you read what he says. Well, it's seems that it is pretty clear to a lot of people that Michael is not only insane, but also that he tries to impose threats on other people. He is a very special "holy" man ...not at all what you would expect a Saint to be like.
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