Posted by Bruce [Bruce] on November 28, 1999 at 17:12:31 {hcnmikA.Fk0hi4VK0MIQGSlVkCl.V2}:
In Reply to: *****Why 144,000 to heaven? posted by Bibleman on November 28, 1999 at 12:31:25:
Bibleman,
Thank you, I certainly do know Jehovah's love. I read your remarks to LA about a third of the angels. Once again we have been fooled by the WTS. We were all taught that the 24 elders are the 144,000 in their heavenly places. And the four angels with them are cherubs.
First of all the 4 angels have six wings, Rev. 4:8. Isa. 6:2 verifies that the seraphim are the six winged angels. The 24 elders sang a new song that only the 144,000 chosen from the earth could master. The 24 elders are 2 groups of 12 or two thirds of 36 legions. Satan took a third of this group and not a third of all the angels in heaven.
Rev. 5:11 shows that there are myraids and myraids and thousands of thousands both of the living creatures and elders. But the 24 elders and the 4 angels with them stand out alone through
the book of Revelation. Twelve is a devinely constituted arranged number by Jehovah, not 24.
When Jesus at Matt. 26:53 directed our attention to 12 or more legions of angels, he was telling us how they are grouped in heaven. Some Bibles shows 12 legions of angels to be 72,000 when relating to Matt. 26:53. The Roman legions when at their full strength consisted of 6,000 men. This is man's number, Jehovah's number is 12.
12x12,000 = 144,000
Agape, Bruce