# ****Why 144,000 to heaven?

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Posted by Bruce [Bruce] on November 28, 1999 at 10:14:15 {hcnmikA.Fk0hi4VK0MIQGSlVkCl.V2}:

In Reply to: ***Why 144,000 to heaven? posted by Bibleman on November 27, 1999 at 23:13:28:

Hello Bibleman,
Well I really opened up a hornet's nest. Just the questions being asked of me from the e-mail was plenty. And as mentioned in my letters I suffer from Lou Gehrig's disease. Just able to peck out the answers with one usable finger on my left hand. But the truth is worth much more than my debilitated effort of bringing it to the world.

Bibleman, thank you for accepting the number 14. In my E-mail to you I stated that my forte is the flood account. The poem at the end of the first letter explains much for us.

First of all just because Adam sinned, this did not change Jehovah's plan for the human race. It certainly was a detour caused by Satan but not a change in his plan for a perfect world of perfect people. If only Satan had sinned, the account of his final demise would be less complex. But, since 144,000 sinned, the complexity of the great crowd and the 144,000 going to heaven gets tangled in a web of confusion.

The 2 clean and unclean animals in Gen. 6 only picture the future generations of Jews and Gentiles. The only people on the earth today excluding the angels offspring and the angels
themselves.

The twelve extra clean animals picture the 144,000. Just as they were together in the ark with the other two, so too are we of the anointed together with the rest of the world, at least about 8,000 or so. The 2 plus the 12 is the sum of 14.

Those not of the 12 apostles, the foundaton stones of the entire bride of Christ, numbering
144,000, are seperate from the rest of the world as replacements for the fallen angels.

Bibleman, I have not as yet checked out the measurements you mentioned in Ezekiel, but the numbers 14 and 12 are the two seperate measures. The 2 could mean the earthly class leaving 12 picturing the heavenly 144,000.

Right now I am very tired, the doctors have estimated that my illness started 7 years ago and my time here is getting shorter. Will continue later to answer other questions but only those about the flood and the 144,000. Read the poem.

Agape, Bruce Bainbridge

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