Posted by Tantalus [Tantalus] on November 24, 1999 at 19:49:19 {BlpRHB6gpc5mhrmu9.YkAJToxO4pJo}:
In Reply to: *****With a Bang posted by Cheeky on November 24, 1999 at 15:12:21:
Hi again Cheeky,
I admire the fact that you are willing to investigate it. However, what I said was that they deny you Jesus Christ as YOUR mediator, they claim he is only THEIR mediator. That is what I am saying is a lie. My question to you was, "Who is your mediator?" These old men can't be, no matter what they tell you. When you investigate notice that the blood of Christ is offered to God in payment for your sins by Jesus Christ. No one else can do this for you. If you accept the sacrifice of Jesus Christ and he mediates for you then you are in the New Covenant. If you are not in the New Covenant then you are not recieving the benefit of Christs Blood and the forgivness of sins. If you want me to post the scriptures to support this again I will be glad too. I will just quote them on this right now. They are of course talking only about themselves, I say the Bible here is talking about all who are forgiven through Christ's blood, hence in the New Covenant.
Jesus Christ is Mediator of this covenant. The apostle Paul writes: "There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all." (1 Tim. 2:5, 6) The shedding of his blood was necessary, because those taken into the new covenant are sinners, having inherited sin and imperfection from Adam. (Rom. 5:12) Christ’s ransom sacrifice bought back all human life rights and is the basis for forgiveness of sins. Jesus "suffered death, that he by God’s undeserved kindness might taste death for every man," says the apostle. (Heb. 2:9) Thus God can deal with those in the new covenant as righteous persons.—Rom. 3:23, 24; 8:1.
po 13 Other Mysteries Relative to Messiah Revealed p. 160
I think that is pretty clear. So if you investigate and can't figure out who your mediator is then I am right. If you investigate and find that they say you are in the New Covenant, that Jesus Christ is your Mediator, then I am wrong and will humbly apologize. If they deny you Christ and say he is only their Mediator, then forget the apologies and deal with the fact that you are being cheated out of Christ.
You really can't call yourself a Christian if you are not in the New Covenant with Christ standing between you and God offering up His blood to pay for your sins. While looking all of this up I found a place that seems to say only the ones in the New Covenant are even Witnesses. I just posted that up top, if it is wrong I am sure I will be corrected. Thank you, Cheeky, for being open minded enough to really look. I admire your courage, as what you find can really change your outlook.
Tantalus