# ******Oneglove Guess what???

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Posted by DaJahVeu [DaJahVeu] on November 25, 1999 at 07:37:21 {yaNwUlwC5c3MfqfVB0wUoEhE92Gn1k}:

In Reply to: *****Oneglove Guess what??? posted by AF on November 25, 1999 at 00:00:56:

Thank you for the effort on your part to relate the parrotted responses without the stated proof needed to support your claims of evolution of a species. I'll be glad to examine any other evidence you might find, but what you've shown me has supported no claims of proof of any evidence of a species change.
NOW!!
Science and the BIBLE are in harmony. In fact science is just now catching up with the Bible on some issues. Let me restate that the BIBLE supports evolution. Modern scientists have been on a mission to disprove the existence of God. It's been stated that God is dead, and that science has killed Him. That is to say that science has rid us of the need to explain the natural by means of the supernatural. This philosophy is known as naturalism. Naturalism denies the possibility of the supernatural, therefore all tests based on naturalistic assumptions will yield results which exclude the supernatural. Contrary to popular opinion, science does not equal naturalism.
The scientific method requires that data be observable and repeatable. When scientists say that evolution is fact, they are referring to what is called "micro-evolution." Microevolution involves the changes within species of plants and animals. These changes can be observed and repeated. In fact, these changes are observed so often that microevolution can, in deed, be referred to as fact. The theory of evolution, however, is not limited to microevolution. The theory of evolution includes an account of how the universe came into existence, and how things got to be how they are today.
This is why the theory of evolution is not a law and not a fact. The theory of evolution involves history, and history can neither be observed nor repeated. No one has seen a star form from hydrogen gas, an ape become man, or life form from non-life. These things can only be speculated upon. In fact, as sure as you can determine that the Big Bang created the universe, you can determine that God created the universe. The theory of creation is just as scientific as the theory of evolution, and the theory of evolution is just as non-scientific as the theory of creation. Because the theory of creation involves God does not make it unscientific. It is naturalism, and not science, that determines that God does not exist. Science merely means "knowledge", and that includes knowledge of any kind.
The theory of creation and the theory of evolution are hand in hand when it comes to the present processes of the earth and universe. It is only in the respective historical accounts that they disagree. Once one realizes this fact, they are free to determine which historical account best fits the present knowledge. The Bible has been proven historically accurate time and time again. Only when the question of origins is at stake is the Bible seen as unreliable. Any piece of information that challenges the theory of evolution is discarded or interpreted in a way that does not compromise the validity of the theory.

The theory of evolution is constantly changing. One might say, "This proves that evolution is the best theory on origins, because the conclusion is not predetermined." This sounds very convincing at first, but when one considers the masses of false information that have been taught to students of the natural sciences, it begins to lose its appeal. Think for example of the evolution of the horse scenario. The horse skulls or skeletons have been proven false over and over.If the theory is constantly changing, how can we be sure that what is put forth as evidence today is really true? We use the sam analogy for the Watchtowr don't we? In fact, how can we be sure that anything in the theory of evolution is true, when we know that every piece of evidence for evolution is only one discovery away from refutation (Piltdown Man, vestigial organs, etc.)?
What does this say about the theory of creation? Has it not been proven false on more than one occasion? The theory of creation has, in deed, been "proven" false many times. However, these proofs rely on the assumption that evolution is fact. How could the earth be young when scientists have proven it to be old? How could there have been a global flood when scientists have shown that there was not? The answer lies in the assumptions made by the scientists before beginning their research. Every scientist must make assumptions. Sometimes these assumptions are wrong. Remember, scientists once believed that the sun revolved around the earth.
So the answer is is simple. The equation is formatted in Genesis. Each kind shall reproduce after its kind. Science has NO record in the fossils, that in itself should demonstrate a global flood, that any species has ever evolved into anything else, either micro or macro.
So, I beg the evolutionist to put away their antiquated charts and graphs, some of which I saw on the board as references are no longer considered accurate by some "Scientist" and demonstrate one instance of ANY species evolving into another. Forget the long drawn out convuluted theories, that even their own supporters cant agree upon, and demonstrate one case of a species change. This, my friends in GOD, has been what the Bible writers, and all the ancient debunkers of this theory have asked for. Did the clay ever say to the potter, "You did not make me?"

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