Posted by GT=Holocaust [Bibleman] on November 17, 1999 at 03:59:01 {xx2d.1sWpQMSSTtTA17sslyACFuF8c}:
It is amazing how few people really read the Bible to
specifically see what it says about events of our
day including and especially the details of the
"great tribulation." One amazing item is how
witnesses totally ignore Matthew 24:29 and refuse
to even discuss it. That verse clearly says that
the great tribulation is over and done with before
the Messiah even arrives.
The prophecy is based upon Daniel 12 and is clearly
an event that was supposed to be directed at natural
Israel. This great tribulation like none other was
all about "dashing the holy ones to pieces". That
means this was to be a final blow to the nation of
Israel in the distant future, one they would almost
not survive. Matthew says "if the days were not cut
short, no flesh would survive." This simply meant
that the Jews would at this time be facing literal
total genocide of their race and nation. And that is
precisely the circumstances of the HOLOCAUST. Had
Hitler won the war you can be sure he would have
tried to exterminate every last Jew and half-Jew
off the planet. As it is, he was successful in
liquidating 2/3rds of that race.
But one of the most important details of this
great tribulation prophesied by Daniel is that it
is connected to the chronology of the 1290 days and
the 1335 days. You see, the trampling of the holy
ones must end the 1290 days but the Messiah would not
appear still for 45 years later! He wouldn't arrive
in kingdom power until the end of 1335 days.
So for the great tribulation to occur and be over and
still allow for 45 years before the Messiah arrives,
means we are limited as to when this event could happen
to the first 35 years of that 80-year generation from
1914!
But of course, as prophesied, that is exactly the
period during which the HOLOCAUST occurred. We date
the end of the 1290 days to 1947 when the Jews official
could return to Palestine, meaning the 1335 days
would end in 1992 A.D. That corresponds exactly to
the correct dating of the fall of Jerusalem in 529BCE
which is 2520 years earlier (2520-529=1991+1=1992;
1947+45=1992).
But what are witnesses thinking? How can they read
Matthew 24:29 which says "AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF
THOSE DAYS..." and still think that it is Armageddon
when a period of darkness occurs between that end of
the tribulation and when the sign of the Son of man
appears in the clouds confirming the Messiah had
indeed arrived?
How can witnesses not know that 1914 is the wrong date
if they don't have a "great tribulation" scenario
occurring before 1914? The great tribulation has to
occur BEFORE the Messiah arrives and at least 45 years
before he arrives! That doesn't give you many choices
post 1914. Of course, this event which is clearly
in the setting of "Judea" and the trampling of "Judea"
is that of fleshly Israel and that event was actually
the HOLOCAUST.
Another factor that doesn't seem to phase witnesses at
all is they think this is an event that happened in
70CE and then was supposed to happen again. If there
is sone thing that is clear about this "great
tribulation" is that it is supposed to be a ONE-TIME
ONLY event! An event that would make world history
because nothing like it had happened before nor would
happen again! That's a pretty strong historical
statement.
Well guess what we are now calling the "WORST EVENT
IN HUMAN HISTORY?" at the moment? You're right!
THE HOLOCAUST! So right now that basically
fulfills that part of the prophecy that this would
be something that had never happened before. Certainly
the fall of Jerusalem in 70CE can't match that kind
of unique historical event hype. But the HOLOCAUST
does and easily.
Besides that, again, this even is only supposed to
happen once in history and it only happens during
the "last days" or when Michael "stands up" which is
the end of the days, that is, during our day.
What is amazing though, once you have the correct
chronology and interpretation of scripture, is that
it actually occurred! Bible prophecy was actually
fulfilled just as it said it was! The HOLOCAUST,
that is, this great tribulation of the Jews did
happen and it did happen during the first 35 years
of that last generation from 1914 to 1994.
Thus the 1335 days which would bring on the END of
the gentile times could also end before 1994 as
prophesied.
So, therefore, JWs and others have no excuse for not
recognizing the critical time we are living in right
now once they actually accept the reality of what
the Bible says and recognize this prophecy of the
great tribulation must be fulfilled upon natural
Israel and that it involves not the destruction of
the nations at Armageddon, but the "dashing of the
holy ones [God's chosen people] to pieces" as
Daniel brings out. Furthermore the period of
"darkness of the sun and moon" corresponds perfectly
with the period of the 45 years from the end of
the 1290 days to the end of the 1335 days.
And that is why the Bible says the "AFTER the
tribulation of those days..." there would be a
darkening of the sun and moon and then the Messiah
would arrive. That interval period of darkening of
the sun and moon (spiritual darkening of Biblical
understanding of the Messiah's 2nd coming by the
anointed remnant) is the same 45 years from the
end of the 1290 days and 1335 days.
So witnesses and others need to wake up. The
"great tribulation" is over and the END has already
come and gone. The "great tribulation" was the
HOLOCAUST and the "END of the system of things" was
simply the end of the "era" of the "appointed times
of the nations" as Luke 21:24 points out.
Now let's review this one more time. How do we
know the "great tribulation" was the HOLOCAUST?
1. Because it involves "Judea" and is a "local" event.
When they saw the "disgusting thing in a holy place"
they were to flee to the mountains. "Judea" refers
to the Jews and the largest settlement of Jews was
Warsaw, Poland. So anti-typical "Judea" really was
Warsaw, Poland! The "disgusting thing in a holy place"
was the Nazi army and its racist theology surrounding
the "holy place" of the Jews in 1939. In 1939 the
Nazi's literally surrounded Warsaw Poland with jumbo
canons, parallel to the Roman Army surrounding
Jerusalem in 70CE. That was the sign to get out
of Warsaw, Poland and Judea in general, that is,
wherever the Jews were if they could. That was the
sign to leave IMMEDIATELY. Because if they didn't,
they would be exterminated. And much of the fleeing
would be literally into the wilderness and into the
mountains where some Jews could hide from the Nazis.
But that was easy for young men and persons who were
fleeing alone. It was very difficult for a mother
with young children or a baby.
So that is one important point. This happens to
"Judea" and if you check Daniel 12, the whole theme
of this tribulation is about the trampling and the
dashing of the "holy ones" to pieces. This is the
prophesied last great tribulation of the JEWS! It
is not Armageddon!
2. The second point is that it is an event that is
totally over before the Messiah even arrives! It
has to happen before the Messiah arrives and 45 years
earlier at that! The HOLOCAUST fulfills that when
you date the Second Coming appropriately in 1992.
3. And finally, this was supposed to be an event that
never happened before and that shocked the world and
that would almost wipe out the Jewish nation and
people. This ONE-TIME event could only happen during
the last generation. The HOLOCAUST fits that
description. It is an event that we call the "worst
event in human history." It truly shocked the world
and continues to shock the world. In fact, it is
impossible to put what happened during the HOLOCAUST
to men, women and little children into perspective.
So really, now there is no excuse to continue to
fantasize that this great tribulation is a future
event or that it is Armageddon. For those who insist
to ignore the Bible though, can there be any excuse
if Armageddon catches them by surprise?
No!
The Bible gives enough information to establish what
these events are and only by ignoring the Bible can
one imagine anything differently. The Bible's
prophecies have come true and exactly as stated!
So if anyone is imagining this great tribulation of
Matthew and Daniel is anything but the HOLOCAUST,
they are not really paying attention to the scriptures
are they?
The "great tribulation" was the HOLOCAUST.
The "END of the system of things" occurred in 1992.
Know this.
Cheers,
Bibleman