Posted by FaithFulJW [FaithFulJW] on November 15, 1999 at 06:34:50 {AS5l1tybL6R5jeV9AY8wNGKwq73NbY}:
In Reply to: MESSIAH=ETHIOPIAN EUNUCH posted by The 2nd Coming on November 15, 1999 at 04:20:16:
THE MESSIAH TO RETURN AS AN "ETHIOPIAN
EUNUCH" DURING THE SECOND COMING? ON
WHAT BASIS?
Well Bibleman,
Your conversation is very interesting. I have some things that I agree with and others that I'm quite sure you are missing the mark on, as I speak to him moment by moment. Would you like the have the REAL answer to these questions?
FaithFulJW
"Brad: So now you're saying the Messiah, during the second coming comes in the imperfect flesh. Thus is an individual who lives
the life of the "prodigal son"...."
"This is quite true."
"M: ...yes, and God's house is..."
"Brad:...and God's house is the Witness organization, and the "woman" in the wilderness is a secret organization?"
No the Woman is Jehovah's anointed out here in the field in the "wilderness" it has nothing to do with a "secret organization" other than that the anointed are secret because only Jehovah and Jesus know whom they are. I have been given the ability to feel holy spirit in a person. None of them are secret to me.
"M: That's correct."
"Brad: Okay, I can see that. I believe the Messiah is to come in the flesh simply because it makes more sense that he will rule on the earth for the thousand years rather than from heaven."
No! Christ Jesus will never come in the flesh again. Except by holy spirit through the anointed as a whole.
M: Right, and the 144,000 do also. And we know the first resurrection is an earthly one first! Remember Abraham and others are part of that resurrection and they are said to be "princes in the EARTH."
Brad: Right. Okay, well what about this "Ethiopian eunuch" stuff. You said the "eagle-class" which represents the secret-woman organization could identify him physically by his being an "Ethiopian eunuch."
The Eagle Class is also the anointed in the last days with eagle eyes to see everything by holy spirit.
M: Correct. The Bible gives hints as to the actual physical character of the person whom would be chosen to embody the spirit of Jesus Christ. Now remember, Jesus Christ himself is not a sinner. It's just that in order to return in the flesh again, after
having given up his body, he accomplishes this by using someone else's body. But while he is at it, he adopts that person's memory and identity as well as body.
That person willingly allows him to share his body and is controlled by him.
And that person who is selected just happens to have lived the life of the prodigal son.
Remember, though, that the prodigal son does learn his lesson and does repent! So he is not a "sinner" when he is chosen to become the Messiah. He returns to God's house.
So do most of the Remnant, I have experienced it already. In 1992.
Brad: Okay. So what scriptures do you base it on that he comes back as an "Ethiopian eunuch" which you claim means he is both black and gay?!!!
(also laughing).....No he is not gay nor is he black. LOLOLOL. He may appear efemanant appearing but NEVER GAY. And not black either. That has nothing to do with it. One of the Remnant could just as well be black, red, brown, or yellow. Any of the children of Shem, Ham, or Japheth could be one of the remnant. I believe however that in order to be one of the 7000 or one of the 300 you must have experienced what you are describing because I have.
M: (laughing....) Yes, I know...
Brad: See you don't even believe it. You're laughing!
M: I'm not really... It just sounds "funny"...
Brad: Yeah, in more ways than one.
M: Okay, all I can do is give you what THEY...
Brad: ..."they" the JIOR...?
M: Yes. What the JIOR read into the scriptures. And there are two specific ones. First of all, things are hidden in scripture because this was not to be understood until the Prodigal Son Messiah fulfilled his life after 40 years and returned to the truth.
I already did!
And there are specific scriptures that refer to the Second Coming that do not refer to the first coming, and a key text in that regard is Isaiah 53 which talks about the suffering and "sickly" Messiah which can't be fulfilled by Jesus at this first coming, so it
is considered to only be fulfilled at his Second Coming.
Yes that is correct!
Brad: Okay, right.
M: Right. So therefore, it is more than a coincidence than when Phillip comes to the Ethiopian eunuch that he is reading, of all texts, Isaiah 53! That's the connection. He would be prophetic of the Messiah in some way. And also the connection is what he
said when he got baptized. He said, "What is preventing me from getting baptized?"....
This happened the second time, just like the Ethiopian eunuch whom was already a converted Jew. I was baptized the second time and asked the same question. What would prevent me from getting baptized the second time? The answer was I got baptized again.
The third time was when I was baptized by and with holy spirit.
Brad: Just like Jesus did...
M: RIGHT! Jesus expressed that as well. So the spiritual minded person would make the connection. And thus they learned
that the Ethiopian eunuch would prefigure Jesus in some way. It is assumed, thus this would be the general characteristic of the
person chosen to become the Messiah.
Brad: And you say that means he would be gay.
Ridiculous!
M: Yes! I those days, what we generally would call a gay person they called a eunuch. But this is reestablished by Revelation 11:8 which refers to "the broadway of the great city which is in a spiritual sense called SODOM and Egypt where their Lord was impaled."
Impaled in this case means put to death for our faith. This happened when I was put to death over my believe of the blood issue. I died for 20 min. and the heavens were silent for about a half an hour. When I was restored to my fleshly body to wait until my enemies are put as a stool for my feet. Now I know not when that will be. But I also, will never die, as I am immortal now. If someone destroys this frail earthly body I will materialize another one immediately and they will be destroyed immolate.
Brad: Where their Lord was impaled?
M: See! That's right. The prodigal son, while he is away from God's house and living a debauched life, is like being DEAD. He's spiritually dead. He's conquered. And thus Matthew 24 when it refers to "where the CORPSE is, there also the eagles will be gathered", it is referring to Jesus when he is dead. But that conquers him, as you can sort of read between the lines is dealing with being "gay" and dealing with being black.
Brad: Oh, I see...
M: Right. So you see the comparison of "Sodom and Egypt" meaning Sodom referring to homosexuality or the gay world, and "Egypt" in general referring to persons of Hamitic descent or being black.
Your all wet, bibleman. Sodom means the homosexual world all right the broad way is that road to destruction. Egypt (and here's a bit of new light for you.) is the Medical field. Now put that in you pipe and smoke it.
Brad: How is Egypt related to being black.
M: I'm assuming a general reference to someone of Hamitic descent?
Brad: Hamitic descent?
M: Yes, someone who is descended from Ham, the father of the black races.
Brad: Oh, okay, I see.
M: So we have the Biblical euphemism here that Sodom and Egypt really refer to the gay subculture and the black subculture in modern times.
This is wrong!
Brad: Oh, I see. Okay.
M: Right! So you can see how much has to be fulfilled by this person who would become the Messiah. They had to be a witness and then leave being a witness, likely disfellowshipped....
No but he did walk away "the prodicial son", and he walked back.
Brad: Right. They have to be black and gay.
M: Right. And they must be around 40 years old in 1989...
Brad: Right.
Right!
M: Ummm, what else? Oh yes! They must appear become the Messiah in 1992 and also war with the world with the long, two-edged sword of his mouth.
Brad: Oh, right. That means in some public way publish something or debate god's word on the internet you said.
M: Right.
Brad: Now you don't really think anybody is going to believe all this do you? Don't you think this is pushing it?
M: It doesn't matter. All that matters is that it is BIBLICAL. So I ask you: Did I show you this in the Bible.
Brad: Well, yes, but it's just your interpretation...
M: Really? Well, guess what?
Brad: What?
M: 1992 is a past date!
Brad: So?
M: So that means Jesus and the prodigal Messiah have become one and Jesus has now returned in the flesh, and....
Brad: ...and?
M: And that means that the womanly eagle organization, would have accepted him. And that's the main point!
Brad: Uh, what was the main point again?
M: The main point was that Jesus comes in secret only to the womanly organization and the womanly organization is the secret organization that sets up the mock death of the Messiah. So, therefore, the people who would believe this scenario of Jesus
coming in the flesh and an Ethiopian eunuch, X-JW being chosen are already gathered! The people who would believe this have already passed that threshold. And on top of that, the Messiah doesn't appear to the world in the beginning. So there is no
pressure for anyone to believe this who aren't already on the "inside". So you see. Not only is it hard for you to believe this, if you're on the outside, you're probably not MEANT to believe this.
Very Good! You are quite close to the truth.
Brad: Well, it's working!
M: Right. But I just wanted you to know, since others might claim to be the Messiah, that there are specific things he must fulfill in general in order to be the Messiah and he must appear at a certain time. And I also said, that if the JIOR ever wanted to show that the "sign of the Son of man" actually did occur, they did take photos.
I don't need any photos I have Jesus Christ holy spirit and Jehovah's holy spirit inside me!
Brad: Oh yeah.
M: Oh yeah! So if for any reason you should be persuaded by anything else, like photos or something else, you should first make sure you know the Bible does teach that Jesus would return as an imperfect man, or at least he would adopt the identity of an imperfect man, and that man would be the Ethiopian eunuch Prodigal Son. So that is who you'd want to look for if you were looking for anybody. And it has to be someone who is known for debating the Bible effectively which suggests the internet was prophesied in the Bible since how else can an individual talk to the world except via the internet!
Brad: Now that is interesting.
M: Right. Sooo.... by the process of elimination, if you believe the Bible at all.....
Brad: Okay. Well thanks. I'll have to think about this.
M: Sure!
Brad: And what about... well, where is this alleged Ethiopian eunuch now?
M: Sorry, classified!
Right here Brad!
Brad: Right!
M: [ROLF].... I know, I know. But just remember, the JIOR is gathered. Only they really have access to him so no one else has to be convinced unless they really, really believe in the Bible and they are chosen. Then they will accept this. Otherwise, it's
too hard to accept. I agree.
There is NO secret organization that Jesus deals exclusively with, EXCEPT the anointed remnant of Jesus as a whole. He NEVER does a thing unless he lets his servants know.
Brad: Well what about the rest of us.
M: Well, everybody is not in the JIOR so if you're serving God to the best of your ability and you're doing what you were supposed to be doing from 1992 to 1999 then I suppose you'll survive Armageddon as these events unfold. Even some of the anointed ones in the "older brother" class are not part of the secret JIOR for a variety of reasons. So it's okay to doubt who the Messiah is, just as long as you know the theory behind the second coming in the imperfect flesh. When all that turns out to be true, then you'll have a head start. So you are better off than most.
Brad: Okay. Thanks. It's a lot to handle.
M: I know. But if you are supposed to understand this, Jehovah's holy spirit will cause it to happen. But it is real. The Messiah did appear on December 26, 1992. I saw it myself.
I'm glad for you, I remember what happened that night with crystal clarity
Brad: Hmmmm. Are you gay?
M: Now why would you ask that?
Brad: Are you this Messiah?
M: You mean just because I'm black? (smile). Sorry, that's classified...
Brad: What? Are you kidding?!!! JEEEEEZUS CHRIST!
"M: I know.... :>"
"[END of dialog between Brad and Michael]"
Well I'm not classified. I'm the LEAST one of all Jesus brothers. I was the last to die and the first to rule. NOW!
FaithFulJW