Posted by Bibleman [Bibleman] on November 12, 1999 at 21:40:01 {CkRQXOxAaIMRXA6xmpscslyACFuF8c}:
In Reply to: ****The Great "Conspiracy" posted by Farkel on November 12, 1999 at 20:27:05:
Dear Farkel,
Ray was reporting on what he was exposed to, which was an open association with Freemasonry.
But the mysteries don't work like that. Furthermore, I excluded the period when he was associated with the governing body.
My comments were more specifically on the Russell and Rutherford era of the Society which show clear signs of influence from Freemasonry.
No one can claim there was no association when the WTS cover has two symbols of Freemasonry. Rutherford had a Freemasonry pyramid as a monument to Russell on his grave? Why didn't he just erect an idol?
So Ray may not have been aware of any secret cultic goings on, which is good, but that doesn't mean they weren't going on and that's because people who are in these secret cults are totally secretive. It's like telling someone God is invisible and having them say "Well, I don't believe it because I've never seen an invisible God."
But I know the organization is infiltrated now. The JIOR is so open-phobic that if there is an indirect way to communicate they use that. And they wouldn't be in hiding and under such strict secrecy unless there wasn't an intense network of surveillance among secret socieities in general and perhaps a concentration within the organization.
As I told you before, the day after I was anointed I had to be trained in secrecy and the ways of the holy spirit. And one of things it did was to expose near-imitation JIOR. So there was some effort to infiltrate the JIOR and they came very close. But holy spirit would expose these persons by making them do certain things like sweat or figit or adjust their glases or something so that we wold know who they were. But basically, in the beginning, in order to know another JIOR holy spirit would have them wearing the identical thing you were wearing. Thus when I went out in service that day we all had on some of the same clothing. But it had to be EXACT, not near.
Sort of like Janus and Jambrees immitating the snake trick.
So there are secret socities and people within those socities who use organizations like the witnesses as a cover, and why not. And apparently the secrecy of the JIOR was to make sure these Satanic groups didn't infiltrate the JIOR and disrupt things until the Messiah became anointed and everything took place as prophesied.
So that's another take on the "dumpster" scenario.
They may not have been expecting something so corny and even if they were watching they wouldn't have known what was going on.
Now I know your line is just to dismiss all this. But I've seen it. It's real. And you can just log onto the net and they claim the same thing. There must be something behind this.
To me people who say there is no "secret society" or "illuminati" or anything may as well say there are no such things as Freemasons, when we know they are and what they believe you can access on the net.
So, Farkel, please be as naive and unaware as you need to be for your own comfort level. Lots of things go on in secret that would shock the world.
I used to wonder why the JIOR was so secretive but now I'm beginning to understand why. They had to operate in secret because of all the other cultic-organizations which operate in secret. Otherwise, they would have been infiltrated.
Cheers,
Bibleman