# **Friend's Question

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Posted by AP [AP] on November 14, 1999 at 17:36:52 {fiuUEQ5dxU/CPYT8orz2MAe0EfOyQM}:

In Reply to: *Friend's Question posted by AF on November 14, 1999 at 11:38:29:

AF, it is you who continues to miss the point of what I am saying:

: AF
So when one finds that extremely bad errors were made in a basic doctrine like the 1914 chronology, and finds that explanations were given that turn out not to be explanations at all (one JW told me that the 1943-44 material was like a shell game), and finds that the Society is unwilling to deal with the errors today and set matters straight, one can only conclude -- like a jury determining a murderer's motivation -- that some of the errors were deliberate and certainly that the covering up of them was deliberate.

AF ::

No, that is NOT the "only" conclusion one can reach! THAT is the point I have been trying to explain: it is ONE possible option. But you cannot prove that it is the ONLY option. Do you see the difference, now? On the one hand you say that it cannot be absolutely proven, but then you turn around and claim that "deliberate deception" IS the "only" conclusion one can reach.

Also, previously when you were explaining the situation about your "two witnesses" you claimed that this was not a courtroom, and now you wish to have legal principles, as used in a court of law, applied. I will have more to say about this, if the discussion continues. So, take your pick: Proceed with your reply, and I will reply after it has been given, and in the meantime I will offer further posts for consideration, with respect to your appeal to the two unknown witnesses, the "Schroeder claims," and other, related issues.

If you are willing to acknowledge that while you believe that deliberate deception is the most likely motivation behind the two examples that are at the core of our debate, but that there are other possibilities, then we can move on to other issues. Otherwise, that is not likely going to happen for some time, as you likely do not plan on stopping your replies, and I do not have any intention on ceasing my responses. Since the exchange is even at this point, in terms of the number of posts made by each participant, you might consider giving a summary of main points, and I will do the same, and we can submit them to barJonah at an appointed time, to complete this present discussion.

Apok

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