# *****The Great "Conspiracy"

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Posted by Bibleman [Bibleman] on November 12, 1999 at 22:09:03 {CkRQXOxAaIMRXA6xmpscslyACFuF8c}:

In Reply to: ****The Great "Conspiracy" posted by Farkel on November 12, 1999 at 20:27:05:

Hi Farkel,

Just wanted to add that being a skeptic is fine. But some people take advantage of that in order to operate in secret.

Holy spirit initiated me enough into the "mysteries" and the nature of the mysteries and their extensiveness to at least take them seriously. But it is understandable if you have no evidence to be able to believe these things.

Again, it's the same as if I told you there is a secret organization operating very effectively under cover at where you work and you assure me there is no such organization. How can you assure me if they are "effective" in keeping secret?

Or here's one since you like talking about my "drag queen" days. In that subculture, it was important if you were living as a woman to try and "pass" as "REAL". But the bottom line was that you couldn't tell the really good ones. So some men were living with other men they never knew were men (or former men), because that is what being a good fake was all about. You never know how good some of them are until suddenly the 50% of the women you think are women come up and tell you they aren't really women. They are completely blended into society, living as beautiful women usually with well-to-do men.

So that's a lesson. If they are that good, then you can't tell. So I wouldn't have expected Ray to be able to "observe" secret cultic activity if he didn't know what to look for, which why would he?

But let me tell you about how easy it is to be unobserved. Let's just say you're under surveillance or there is a general surveillance looking for suspicious rendevouz. How could you tell? If someone watched you 24 hours and they saw you meet someone in the library then they'd know instantly and they'd know who your contact was. The fact is, it is impossible almost not to be observed communicating.

But really, it's quite simple if you know how to do it. Two clever ways that are used is the car wash and the cleaners. Everybody goes to the car wash and everybody goes to the dry cleaner. But it is a seamless way to exchange information without direct contact. To the outside observer, you never meet anyone and are never under suspicious circumstances dealing with complex rendevouzs.

From your standpoint, therefore, if someone told you your neighbor was an undercover spy and asked you if you saw anything suspicious, youd' say no.
That's because they don't intend to do anything suspicious. Everything is camera proof.

And that's another thing about dumpsters. It's a great way to exchange messages. Because it looks like you're just looking through the trash for boxes so you can move or something and nobody thinks of anything, but on those boxes are secret information, coded at that!

By that I mean, there may be no writing on the box, but the type of box itself may be a hidden message.

But holy spirit is even more secretive than that. I could leave a flier with dating information at an ice cream parlor and never even meet a JIOR who is supposed to get the message. Then holy spirit may causea child to pick up the flier and take it home and it's her brother who the message is for. So there is no connection.

And sometimes it was simpler since it wasn't me or the message itself that was secret but the JIOR who was secret. So sometimes I'd just make 300 copies of a flier and hand them out in a wide area knowing the key JIOR who needed the message would be led to pick up a copy of the message. So even if I was under surveillance there would be no direct contact.

Anyway, the eagle-organization is a secret organization which flies into the wilderness "out of the sight of the dragon" so they are hiding from somebody. There is a reson for all the secrecy and once you've gotten close to any secret organization or secret society, you become very aware of how easy it is to lead a double life or to communicate on a secret level while right in front of others.

So I appreciate your general skepticism, but that's a short speech for me, an "insider."

And besides that, I've "outed" some secret cultists by infiltrating their secret symbolisms.
If you wear certain items of clothing belonging to them then others will suspect you're a secret member and then will all ask you the same dumb question, to which I never knew the answer, but it told me instantly they were a secret member.

So as I've said, I've been "initiated" closely enough and shown just enough of what goes on to take this seriously. If you don't have some of this direct knowledge, however, I can understand why you might doobt until you do.

But the bottom line is, just like I tell you about the JIOR, a secret Jesus underground cult that was prophesied in the Bible and you don't believe a word I say. You think you're smart because you don't believe me and you have no proof. But I just sit back and realize you're living in a total fantasy world since it IS real. So at some point I just laugh at how naive people are and how self-confident over their own error.

But that prejudice not to believe in anything they haven't seen or anything their mothers didn't happen to mention five times while they were growing up is the very prejudice secret societies operate against to remain secretive. So they end up thinking the rest of the world are just "dumb" for being so easily fooled and so gullible. Which is a near accurate assessment.

Cheers,
Bibleman

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