Posted by WitnetObserver [WitnetObserver] on December 01, 1999 at 05:27:39 {F.qnb2WYZMY.5ADQk2RYQv.iPpdwjE}:
In Reply to: R U Kissing Obed's Butt? posted by WitnetObserver on December 01, 1999 at 04:57:37:
> Speakin' of deletions....
> http://www.cyberpass.net/~h2o/wwwboard/messages/191283.html
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> What's up with H20?
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> R U Kissing Obed's Butt?
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> R U Kissing Obed's Butt?
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> Posted by WitnetObserver [WitnetObserver]
> on December 01, 1999 at 04:57:37 {F.qnb2WYZMY.5ADQk2RYQv.iPpdwjE}:
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> I don't understand it. A loyal
> JW wouldn't be on the internet. An opposer
> wouldn't delete that type of post.
> down here sometimes it goes to
> the bottom of the page www.jwspincontrol.org
> see also http://www.cyberpass.net/~h2o/wwwboard/messages/185670.html
>
> People may have new problems
> or situations to deal with,
> stimulating a spiritual interest
> that was
> not there before.
> (We target emotionally weak "ones"
> for recruitment)
>
> as there are no paid clergy
> (in fact, we teach that
> "paid-clergy" are evil
> and can not be trusted simply
> because they are "paid"
> )
> and the meeting places are modest.
> (but we make a fortune
> on the real estate anyway...free
> construction labor )
>
> Baptism
> This act symbolizes one's dedication
> to God
> and is taken by those of responsible
> age
> (they need to already know their
> A B Cs)
> who have made an informed decision.
> (we screen them 1st)
> Baptism is by complete water
> immersion.
> (Do you understand that your dedication
> and baptism identify you
> as one of Jehovah's Witnesses
>
> in association with God's spirit-directed
> organization?)
>
>
> Guidance and instructions are
> provided by
> a multinational governing body
> (publishing company)
> made up of longtime Witnesses
> who currently
> serve at the international offices
>
> of Jehovah's Witnesses in Brooklyn,
> New York.
> (but ENFORCED by the locals.This
> supplies them
> political "power" that
> keeps them interested in the cult)
>
> Jehovah's Witnesses avoid making
> rules
> and regulations beyond those provided
>
> in the Scriptures, (the rank&file
> do what they
> are told)
> and they do not follow traditions
>
> that contradict Bible teachings.
> ("teachings" as
> defined by us to supposedly be
> from the Bible)
> Emphasis is placed on personal
> application
> of Bible principles and the value
> of a sound,
> Bible-based conscience. (Brooklyn-trained-conscience)
>
>
> SHUNNING
> Disfellowshipped members may continue
> to attend religious services,
> and if they wish, they may receive
> pastoral visits.
> They are always welcome to return
> to the faith.
> the replies below are ALL from
> obeds main forum
>
> Would you want to be counted by
> God
> as a sharer with wicked ones?
> (2Co 6:17)
>
> I would like to say that I would
> not have the respect I have
> for my father if he had not made
> the stand he made
> with regards to Bible principles.
>
> We are told not to even take a
> meal with such a man,
> this would not change because
> he is a family memeber.
>
> We should always follow the society's
> counsel on DF's
> FAMILY MEMBERS, but remember theres
> a diference between
> one who is making no effort to
> return
> and one who is making a sincere
> effort
> ie: regularly attending meetings,
> personal study
> and preparation for meetings.
>
> The latter deserves our encouragement
> if we are their family member.
>
> I am compelled to inform the community
> that Jim expressed
> apostate sentiments to me and
> to many others here.
> I know that it is difficult to
> accept but it is the sad reality.
> Our brother is very sick, both
> physically and spiritually
> and my sincere hope is that he
> can recover.
> On the other hand he cannot be
> allowed to become
> a disruptive influence here.
>
> This spin-control site is something
> they really have been needing.
> A short visit there did bring
> this "passage" to my mind....
>
> from http://www.factnet.org/rancho1.htm
>
> Looking like peaceful persuasion
>
> is precisely what makes coercive
> persuasion
> less likely to attract attention
>
> or to mobilize opposition.
> It is also part of what makes
> it
> such a devastating control technology.
>
> concerning deletions....
> Does Obed have "connections"
> here? Was I lying? Doesn't my arguement
> actually SUPPORT the Society? What
> gives? Obed himself has said: "Witnesses.net
> stands firmly against copyright infringement
> and applauds the decision taken by
> the Society to protect their interests.
> We implore those of you with homepages
> to make sure that your pages do not
> contain copies of Society materials."
> Hello? http://discussion.witnesses.net/Forum34/HTML/000348.html
> http://discussion.witnesses.net/Forum34/HTML/000385.html
> http://discussion.witnesses.net/Forum34/HTML/001387.html
> http://discussion.witnesses.net/Forum34/HTML/001405.html
> (Does his deletion mean anything?
> if I'm making this up, I sure planned
> ahead )
> R U Kissing Obed's Butt? or what?
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