Posted by dproper [dproper] on November 10, 1999 at 14:26:36 {AAJB0ph6mYqWvNK4R.ToP1C36qMA2w}:
Hello Bibleman and others,
A question was asked of me and I decided to answer on H2O.
I was asked if I could expound on my thoughts about Bibleman.
The term expound means to explain or to teach.
I myself have been interested in the a field of study that I would call psycho-history. This
field of study really does not exist because it involves the study of archeology, history of
human behavior, human behavior management, world history, cultural history, THE
BIBLE, and bible history. Bibleman has taken all this information and has made it
available to all of us. Thank you Bibleman for all your hard work. I believe what he is
teaching us is as correct as history will allow, and I want to get as much of this
information crammed into my head as I can. Sorry I could not attend the chat on Yahoo,
if you were able to get it scheduled.
I am new to this website. I have visited other websites that pertained directly to actions
and events of JW. I avoided the obvious apostate sites. I feel this site has good things I
want to learn. I have learned much, I feel my spiritual advancement has been productive .
I can actually see how I benefited from the spiritual darkness I experienced while inside
the WTS and for the short time I was alone in the dark. I survived because first, I love
Jehovah, I am stubborn, and because I was searching for an answer for myself. I learned
about my NEED for forgiveness, and the need I have to freely love others as I have
learned to love myself. This is not selfish. We also have a need to survive not only for
our own benefit but for the benefit of all those we love. I accept everything I have learned
so far.....
I have a question for the Bibleman, it has to do with time, dating. I looked up the
information in the WTS insight books of the month of the last part of the harvest which is
HESHVAN(BUL).
*** it-1 373-4 Bul ***
The eighth lunar month of the sacred calendar of the Israelites corresponding to the second
month of the secular calendar. (1Ki 6:37, 38; Ge 7:11) It included part of October and part of
November. Following the Babylonian exile, this month was called Marheshvan or Marchesvan,
later abbreviated to Heshvan. These postexilic names do not appear in the Bible but are found in
the Jewish Talmud, the writings of Josephus, and other works.
Bul came at about the start of the rainy season in the autumn. (De 11:14; Joe 2:23; Jas 5:7) It
was a month in which the sowing of barley and wheat went on, and in northern Galilee olives
were gathered. The shepherds were now bringing their flocks of sheep back in from the open
fields to put them under cover during the winter months of cold and rain.
According to Genesis 7:11 and 8:14, the Flood of Noah’s day began on the 17th day of “the
second month,” and by the same month a lunar year and ten days later the earth had dried off.
Concerning this, Josephus (Jewish Antiquities, I, 80 [iii, 3]) commented: “This catastrophe
happened in the six hundredth year of Noah’s rulership, in what was once the second month,
called by the Macedonians Dius and by the Hebrews Marsuan, according to the arrangement of
the calendar which they followed in Egypt.” Therefore, according to Josephus, the second month
in Noah’s time corresponded to the month Bul, or Marheshvan.
Following the Exodus from Egypt, Bul became the eighth month in the sacred calendar, and it
was during this month that Solomon completed the construction of the temple at Jerusalem. (1Ki
6:38) Jeroboam, the founder of the separatist northern kingdom of Israel, arbitrarily made this
month a festival month, as part of his plan to divert the people’s attention from Jerusalem and its
feasts.—1Ki 12:26, 31-33.
Bibleman, is there a way you can use the dating information you have and see
where we are now in the extended harvest time. The Jewish month of Heshvan
was the very tail end of their harvest so can we apply this in our present time in
a spiritual sense, and with the correct dating techniques you have; can we at
this time be able to tell where we are at in the spiritual harvest ? I hope this
makes sense. I am not completely clear on this.
Other comments always welcome.
always pondering.......
dproper