Posted by I forgot... [Bibleman] on November 07, 1999 at 06:19:26 {zExURjw8QAMSSTtTA17sslyACFuF8c}:
In Reply to: The Modern-Day 70TH WEEK posted by Parallel on November 07, 1999 at 05:22:07:
Part 2
This is just a quickie.
Here is a clear-cut exmaple of why the Witnesses don't understand the last days. They have Jesus appearing in kingdom power at the very beginning of the generation when he doesn't secure kingly power until the very end.
This is clearl indicated in the parable of the "ten minas" found in Luke 19:12:
A certain main of noble birth traveled to a distant land to secure kingly power for himself and to return. Calling ten slaves of his he gave them ten minas and told them, "Do business til I come.... 15 Eventually when he got back after after having secured kingly power, he commanded to be called to him these slaves whom he had given the silver money..."
Now this illustration is not that complex. It just shows that there would be work by various slaves put to work before the Messiah returns in kingdom power. When he returns he comes to inspect what they did and to reap from their work.
But note, he doesn't assign them this work while he is king. He is not a king when this occurs. He secures kingly power while he is away.
So this is just talking about the last generation from 1914 when the kingdom activities begin in anticipation for the Messiah's coming in kingdom power near the end of that generation! This same period is the period of the workers in the vineyard mentioned at Matthew 20. So when the work begins Christ is not yet installed as king. That doesn't happen until near the end of that generation.
So even on a fundamental basis of these prophetic parables we can see 1914 doesn't work! Even if the work began around 1914 as the signs began with WWI with "kingdom against kingdom and nation against nation", still that was to happen BEFORE the Messiah arrived in kingdom power.
And as noted many times before, even the "great tribulation" occurs and is over and there is an interval period of 45 years of "darkness of the sun and moon" after the tribulation before the Messiah appears in kingdom power.
But is this the message you're getting from the Watchtower Society?
Are they trying to tell you the "great tribulation" is still future and that it's Armageddon? This is just wrong. The "great tribulation" was to come against "that nation" (Daniel 12) and that means natural Israel.
That one-time event great tribulation against them wherin almost "no flesh would be saved" was the HOLOCAUST.
The WTS is claiming that the Messiah arrived in kingdom power in 1914! Can't you see how WRONG this is according to the Bible?
They are in spiritual darkness!
So the 1992 date which is when the sign actually appeared is totally and completely in harmony with the scriptures that the Messiah appears in kingdom power near the very end (but not later than the end) of that generation of 80 years post 1914!
So you don't even need the right chronology for the fall of Jerusalem to know that 1914 is a wrong time for the "end of the gentile times"!
So sometimes we just nee to step back and look at the BASIC PICTURE!
And that is, there is a pre-work period during that generation for the "temple class" and other organizations to prepare for when the Messiah would arrive and this activity takes place over a generation beginning in 1914. The Messiah would arrive in kingdom power near the end of that generation.
That makes sense. That's Biblical.
When are witnesses and others going to give up on 1914 (607BCE) or 1934 (587BCE) as the wrong prophetic dates for the end of the gentile times?
NOTHING in scripture works for 1914 except as the beginning of that last generation. Christ doesn't take up kingly power until the end of that generation. How fundamental can this be?
So that's why I'm saying now, that if I were to try to go back to the Kingdom Hall and just try to keep these things to myself, it would be ridiculous, since everything the witnesses believes now is totallyw wrong scripturally.
Anyway, as Luke points out, the kingdom occurs near the end of that generation not at the beginning so Luke contradicts the 1914 date. 1992 fulfills it.
Cheers,
Bibleman