# ***TravisJ45 Post II?

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Posted by Friend [Friend] on November 06, 1999 at 19:49:15 {p8g/8h8r5QhxaL3hj3H2OgnjR4Br/g}:

In Reply to: **TravisJ45 Post II? posted by Greg Stafford on November 06, 1999 at 19:27:54:

Greg

> Friend:
> What would have happened to all that self-praise and condescension if TavisJ45 was not found out? In that case the posts would have deceitfully remained standing as a presumed third party view. Surely you see the problem with all that.

> GREG:
> No, that is not the case at all. Do you have the second post? Can you please post it if you do? As I said in my Enter Reality post, I made an error in the way I decided to handle things, but there was absolutely no intention of unknowingly, to the board, taking on a new identity. THAT is precisely why I asked those who were confused to email me for clarity, if needed.

Greg, you don’t want to get me stirred up on this one.

For now I suggest you just read what I am about to write and then drop it, or better yet offer a simple one sentence apology to those of us who do care and then leave it. I think you will find that serious participants here are willing to discuss issues without resorting to ad hominem.

First of all, no, I do not have a copy of that second TravisJ45 post, though you know that I responded to it and I think you recall what I had to say representing how I understood it then. I maintain that my perception of that second post was an honest one.

The problem with your first post I have already described. The reason that your second post did not alleviate things is because of what I said in my former post on this thread. I said, "it all sounded more like damage control." I might add that my response to that second post pretty well confirmed that that was how I saw it then. I still feel the same way. The problem with you putting your explanation in a second post is that by then you could have realized [GregStafford] came up alongside the TravisJ45 and so you had to do some quick explaining, which is what looked like happened. Sincere participants are thus left with the awkward task of having to chose whether what TravisJ45 said would have remained as a third party comment otherwise.

You are right, you made a mistake. I have no hard feeling toward you whatsoever. But I do think you should apply the one sentence apology and then forget it. Your actions puts an onus upon you. You can beat others responses to this thing all day long and it remains true that your actions started the whole thing. Why not end it now?

Please do not press me further on this issue.

Your
Friend

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