Posted by Bibleman [Bibleman] on November 05, 1999 at 10:49:31 {6xiCHW3gJ2MSSTtTA17sslyACFuF8c}:
In Reply to: Questions For Bibleman posted by RaeStar on November 05, 1999 at 07:53:03:
Hi Rae Star,
Thanks for filling me in more. Based upon what you have told me though, it seems the other obvious answer to your "voices" are these spirits, which you already know about. So this is not a matter of a medical problem.
The thing is, though, are these "good" spirits are deceptive spirits. The spirits, of course, you know are real. But in your setting as a Wiccan or being associated with that, obviously the chances of them being the rebel angels is more likely than those of God's. But the angels I've seen have not been visionary but materialized people. I have had no hallucinations of any individual personal angels like this.
So at this point I would just presume these voices and experiences are classical of those who dabble in spiritism and that wouldn't fit into the category of what's going on with those of the anointed associated with the Bride class.
But I will tell you this, the "millieu" is very similar.
So at this point, I would fall back on something I had said before and that is, if you are of the "anointed" associated with the Bride Class, then that will accomplished. I can't say you're not anointed. But I would think that it might involve breaking away from these wayward angels you have been aware of. There were many demon-possessed persons in Jesus' day who had these cast out and who became Christians.
So I think a key issue for you is whether you feel plagued by them or are you complicit with them. All types of spiritistic activity is opposed to the Messiah.
In the garden of Eden it was established that there would be war between Satan and his angels and Jesus and his angelic followers. My first presumption would be that these are not Jesus' angels and thus are enemies of Jesus and therefore your experiences with them would not be an indication you would be of the Christian "anointed" class.
So, anyway, likely these are rebel angels and thus opposed to Christ and there would have to be a severing of ties with these spirits if you were to become acceptable within Jehovah's arrangement. I would think your experiences would be typical of someone dabbling in spiritism and thus would not consider your experiences one related to the JIOR.
Of note, those who are anointed who are not witnesses are still quite focussed on the Bible. At any rate, you can be assured angels, both good and bad, are real and since you know that is who is talking to you, I think you've answered that part of your question. This is not necessarily a medical condition, as you likely are aware. But paganism and Christentism don't mix. You'll have to make a choice to serve the God of the Bible if you are to please them.
On Jacob and Esau: The story of Jacob and Esau I was referring to Genesis 25:23-26. That's where the twin boys were struggling in the womb and when born, Esau was born first but Jacob was holding onto his heel, which meant even though Esau was the technical firstborn, it was Jacob who would do God's will and that is whom he chose. Proving God's sons are those who obey him first, and not by any birthright. But that would be a moot issue now and of no consideration now that I know its angels that have been speaking with you. But unfortunately, they are rebel angels. God does not permit a mixture of spiritism and true worship.
Well, I hope this has been a help. That was resolved rather quickly for you. To serve Jehovah and please him you must learn about him through his word the Bible. That's the key. And get out of paganism, of course.
Thanks for sharing and I hope you are led to the truth. It seems you have a special challenge ahead of you.
Best regards,
Bibleman