Posted by Bibleman [Bibleman] on November 04, 1999 at 21:53:36 {yxewwqp4aAMSSTtTA17sslyACFuF8c}:
In Reply to: **Bibleman-questions posted by RaeStar on November 04, 1999 at 16:11:35:
Hello RaeStar,
And welcome to H20. No one will harm you here, I can assure you. You are an honored guest, particularly since we know this is a personal matter for you.
Of course, there is lots to say and little say, and so much is happening spiritually now, who knows.
I will say this though. The ingathering of the anointed ones or chosen ones, done by angels, tends to be somewhat direct though secretive.
My initial impression is that a feeling of doubt might occur before "accepting" being anointed. But if you "feel" that you are one of the anointed, that is how it "feels." But you do have to ACCEPT. And then you are assured of it. So the Lord knocks, but you do have to get up and answer the door.
I'm a little skeptical of these feelings being with you all your life, but your curiosity about the resurrected ones has my full attention. I don't know how that works, but all those resurrected are said to be "born again."
So let me just say that the resurrection is of or within those who are born recently.
This is the scripture that explains how it works for those who died before Jesus died, that is, they died without becoming anointed first:
Ps 45:16 "In place of your forefathers there will come to be your sons, whom you will appoint as princes in all the earth.
Basically, this means when they are "born again" in the modern age in some sense during the first resurrection, they will have the identities of modern persons and thus will become younger than their own children. So the fathers will become sons reference. And of course, this is only the first resurrection.
You should be clearly aware that the first resurrection is first in the flesh and those anointed will serve for the 1000 years first in the flesh, then during Judgment Day and THEN they go to heaven.
So you might want to reread closely those events in Revelation 20.
Let me also assure you that the experiences are different depending upon Jehovah's purpose. But ultimately many are chosen whoa are not witnesses or not even Christian. To be blunt, the nation of Israel should have technically served as the priest class, but the standards were made so high that no one qualified and thus Jehovah could then "choose" whom he wanted from all the "desirable ones" in the world. So it's definitely by Jehovah's own special selection.
So if you are of the anointed or chosen ones and you're in doubt about it now, you won't be later. The angels are doing the gathering work and some of their intervention in the process has been rather "direct".
The other thing to note is that the JIOR or the anointed ones are operating in total secrecy right now for the most part. So this would be something personal and private for you unless Jehovah has some special mission or public role for you, which is possible. After all, here you are.
So I'm wondering if Jehovah is bringing you to my attention for some reason. You certainly have my undivided attention.
So share what you will either on the board or privately by E-mail. And please be assured I'm very attentive to your subjective experiences and feelings. You can be as open as you want and I'll just share what I know.
But the spirituality level is very high right now in the JIOR. I've seen the Messiah in a flashing light, I've been spoken to by holy spirit and others. I've heard other people describe a spiritual experience which was extremely similar to mine. So I'm very open to many possibilities.
And I'm not at all concerned about those on the "outside" who wouldn't have the comprehension. So I'm just going to answer your questions in this thread. So ask away or share if you like (which would be nice). That way general information about the resurrection or other things might help others. But if you wish, you can contact me via E-mail. Please feel free to ask me anything.
Cheers,
Bibleman