Posted by Bibleman [Bibleman] on November 03, 1999 at 11:46:51 {eZOTANvCI6MRXA6xmpscslyACFuF8c}:
In Reply to: ******WTS History posted by Antique on November 03, 1999 at 04:50:16:
Well, I'm kind of limiting the application of the "JIOR" for my own purposes.
Basically, you have the woman who gives birth to the kingdom and they flies into the wilderness "out of the sight of the dragon." This is the secret, underground organization of those who actually meet the Messiah "in the clouds" that is, not in public assembly, but they understand he comes in the flesh, etc.
Then the Bible speaks of Satan warring with the "remaining ones of her seed".
Logistically, these are seen by Satan. So this represents the "public aspect" of the anointed ones. Basically, those anointed ones who claim so publically associated with the the "anointed remnant" of Jehovah's witnesses.
So that's the basic two groups, the private group who is the "woman" and the public group who is called the "remaining ones of her seed".
But both groups are heavenly and it could be said that "JIOR" appropriately applies to all of them. But when I say "JIOR" I tend to mean the secret organization and when I say "older brother" the public anointed ones.
It's sort of like a mother whose child has a "fever" and she'll say, "He had a temperature."
And if he didn't have a "fever" she might say, "He doesn't have a temperture." Or we sometimes ask, "Do you have a temperature."
But actually, what we are saying is "Do you have a high temperature" since no matter what, high or low, we all have a temperature.
{For instance my normal temperature is around 98.6, whereas Farkel's is well, I think around 20 below normally...(nah! Just kidding him. He's gonna get me for that one... Of course, since he doesn't read my posts, he won't see this, right? I used to pick on Jan, now its Farkel. Anyway...)
So I just sort of call the secret organization of the woman the "JIOR".
Thus all anointed ones whether the "woman" or the "remaining ones of her seed" will serve ON THE EARTH first with Jesus, then go to Heaven. They are all part of the "Bride of Christ."
Now, the "other sheep" in my mind are the entire body of faithful ones both anointed and "regular" (let's say, "earthly"). The context of this term seems to mean everyone who are in the "sheep" category of both classes. That means that the "great crowd" are part of the "other sheep" but no part of the Bride Class.
Logistically, when Jesus comes, he separates out the sheep from the goats from within the Witness organization, both anointed and earthly/great crowd, and then that group joins a larger "other sheep" group both anointed and earthly.
Hope that wasn't too confusing. Not really, huh?
So basically, again, "JIOR" which means "Jehovah is Our Righteousness" likely could be applied to the entire body of anointed ones, but more specifically is being applied to just the secret organization of the woman right now, to distinguish those from the "older brother" public organization of anointed ones.
I hope that helped.
Cheers,
Bibleman