# ***AF-GREG DEBATE BACK ON!!!

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Posted by Gedanken [Gedanken] on November 05, 1999 at 13:43:30 {6xiCHW3gJ2HdgEG/iekYGxDfYXLgH2}:

In Reply to: **AF-GREG DEBATE BACK ON!!! posted by Mod101 on November 05, 1999 at 13:01:17:

:Hey I think I saw him blink...He's still alive. Why don't I get more stones for you to throw. Somehow I have this mental image of
some here wanting to be in the front row if this was an actual stoning.

bJ resurrected the issue and suggested that Stafford's email to him might cause some pause so as to revaluate Stafford. So I did and simply responded with my opinion. Actually, your attack on me is much more offensive in that you imply that I would do actual physical harm to the man. Maybe that is why you are Moderator 101.

My attack was on Stafford's demonstrably unethical standards. Until Stafford apologizes then you don't have a leg to stand on. Even then this incident should not be forgotten.

:Look I too disagree with the way Greg handled things here but don't you think you are taking this a little too far?

No I don't. He is a published author who is actively propagating lies. His book won't go away and neither will its critics.

:My first thought was delete this as a personal attack, but I don't want to get the whole deletion mob going again.

Do whatever you want. It is fairly obvious that you haven't managed to grasp the issues involved. Try thinking instead of deleting.

:It looks like the majority of the Board is ready to move on from this.

As I said bJ raised the issue.

:Therefore any future personal attacks such as this will be deleted. Fair?

Not at all. How is it a personal attack to call someone a liar when they have publicly lied to the board and failed to apologize? It is simply stating the truth. On the other hand you have attacke me so how about you delete your own post?

:Mod101 - whose mother taught him to stop picking at the scabs otherwise it will never heal.

Naive. What you are suggesting is more along the lines of ignoring the wound. Better to root out the dirt and clean the wound before the scabs form.

Please understand that this is not about attacking Stafford personally. Also I have no major beef with you either. It is, however, about showing a person who defends, among other things, the Society's murderous blood policy, to be a liar. It may be that you don't have the stomach for such things but I personally don't give a rat's posterior. Stafford's feelings are irrelevant compared to the loss of an innocent life. I would have thought that you would see that. Forget the warm fuzzy feelings that come from wooly thinking and simpering ideals of forgiveness. We are talking about the hard reality of being misled by an organization that will do whatever is necessary, ,i>including allowing people to die without reason to preserve itself. With Stafford aiding and abetting. Since I know you have a penchant for movies how about watching the The Matrix (again probably) and asking yourself which pill did you swallow, red or blue?

Gedanken

Follow Ups:

- ****AF-GREG DEBATE BACK ON!!! Rick 17:55:57 11/05/99 (1)
  - *****AF-GREG DEBATE BACK ON!!! Gedanken 18:15:04 11/05/99 (0)
- ****AF-GREG DEBATE BACK ON!!! Dean 17:23:16 11/05/99 (4)
  - *****AF-GREG DEBATE BACK ON!!! Gedanken 18:04:39 11/05/99 (3)
    - ******AF-GREG DEBATE BACK ON!!! Dean 22:17:50 11/05/99 (2)
      - *******AF-GREG DEBATE BACK ON!!! AF 01:47:15 11/06/99 (1)
        - ********AF-GREG DEBATE BACK ON!!! Observer 06:01:09 11/06/99 (0)
- ****AF-GREG DEBATE BACK ON!!! correction 14:32:43 11/05/99 (0)

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