# Sonny: Russell/Rutherford

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Posted by Camryn [camryn] on October 28, 1999 at 16:10:58 {BrTq3yWfsYCAoFoSdQ9.DroBvA4afs}:

You asked where in the "Proclaimers" book does it say that neither Russell or Rugherford ever knew that Jesus had returned in 1914...

1] On the top of page 47 of the "Proclaimers" book it says that N.H.Barbour convinced Russell that Jesus had returned in 1874. (That happened in 1876 - 3 years before the 1st Watchtower magazine.)

2] On bottom of page 133 (footnote) it says that that date of 1874 was not changed to 1914 until 1943.

THEREFORE: Since Russell died in 1916 and Rutherford died in 1942, it means that neither one of them every realized that Jesus had returned in 1914 (assuming that he did in fact return in 1914).

I cannot help but wonder how many Witnesses realize this? Perhaps none!

How many of those who are currently studying with Witnesses realize it? If the 'teacher' isn't aware of it, how can he help is student to be aware of it?

Although realizing this AFTER being baptized may not cause many Witnesses to flinch, I wonder how many would have flinched if they had known this BEFORE they got baptized?

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