# **********Awake! 12/8/99

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Posted by AF [AF] on October 28, 1999 at 20:15:05 {BrTq3yWfsY1EwaxRomAMdaOt1gg/Zk}:

In Reply to: *********Awake! 12/8/99 posted by Friend on October 28, 1999 at 19:54:22:

: I see you again sidestep direct contradiction of your claims about how holy spirit is involved in appointing elders.

I sidestepped nothing. You may claim that my plainly pointing out your errors is sidestepping, but then, that's what JWs do all the time on this forum, isn't it?

Proof: tell us what I sidestepped.

: You asked:

:: does the Society teach that its leaders get information from God that they could not possibly get on their own?

: Yes, by means of the Bible and sharing with fellow Christians. (Hebrews 4:12; 2 Timothy 3:16,17; Matthew 28:19,20)

That's not what that 1987 Watchtower said and it's not what most JWs believe and it's not what they believe the Society teaches.

Furthermore, as I've pointed out time and again, and you've ignored completely, the Society teaches that you can't even be a Christian unless you're a JW. Therefore they teach that they and only they receive direct input from Jehovah above and beyond what anyone else can get "by means of the Bible and sharing with fellow Christians." Since the Society admits that its leaders are not more intelligent or better interpreters than anyone else, their exclusive understanding cannot come from a mere reading of the Bible, but must come directly from God.

The fact that you've time and time again sidestepped dealing with these points, but go off in any number of other directions or simply ignore the points, proves that you don't want to deal with them.

So let's try this one: Do you agree that the Society teaches that only JWs can be Christians?

: I don’t owe you an explanation for this and will not dignify you with one. But I am tired of your recent childish accusatory manners.

I'm tired and saddened at seeing an otherwise intelligent man argue himself in circles. Everyone can see it but you.

: Take them elsewhere! I have not the time or need to spend with someone willing to insult a ready participant in meaningful dialogue.

I'm hardly insulting you by badgering you for clear answers to questions you claim to be able to answer. Really, you insult yourself by engaging in this massive game of dodging.

AF

Follow Ups:

- ***********Awake! 12/8/99 Friend 20:30:35 10/28/99 (2)
  - ************Awake! 12/8/99 AF 14:20:06 10/29/99 (1)
    - *************Awake! 12/8/99 Gedanken 14:37:06 10/29/99 (0)

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