# *Liberal Elder

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Posted by Amandita [Amandita] on October 29, 1999 at 05:14:41 {CAtoZJLIp2cb2I0chVEoQV/2MntAmg}:

In Reply to: Liberal Elder posted by jimmyjames on October 28, 1999 at 21:00:11:

I agree with Liberal Elder. Nobody makes ordinary Moonies or JWs believe anything that they don't want to believe. The fact is that most people who are converted to the Moonies leave the Moonies and hundreds of thousands have left and are leaving the JWs. So so-called mind control doesn't work. Those that are "loyalists" want to remain and are as guilty as the GB for shunning and being hateful. I have a former girlfriend who hasn't spoken to me for years and refuses to listen to anything about the organization. Nobody has taken over her mind; She just doesn't want her nice little JW world disturbed.The ordinary loyalist JW is like most Germans were when they supported Hitler. They want to believe.

In the case of the Witnesses, to bring in government to use against them is very dangerous. It would make martyrs of them and make them worse. Besides, governments often aren't very bright. Take a look at what happened at Waco. So let's be content. Liberal Elder and thousands of other supposed Witnesses and ex-Witnesses are doing a great job destroying the Watchtower machine or forcing it to change. So let's give the organization a little more rope; it's hanging itself.

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- **Liberal Elder jimmyjames 08:31:19 10/29/99 (0)
- **Liberal Elder Exactly 06:25:09 10/29/99 (2)
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