# **********Awake! 12/8/99

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Posted by Friend [Friend] on October 28, 1999 at 17:28:08 {BrTq3yWfsYhxaL3hj3H2OgnjR4Br/g}:

In Reply to: *********Awake! 12/8/99 posted by Luis on October 28, 1999 at 17:12:58:

Luis

> It would be very arbitrary to assign [wars, earthquakes, pestilences, etc…] to a specific time period as some kind of "sign" indicating Christ's Return.

I agree with that unless there is something about the observation of those events which is unique. Along those lines I invite your consideration of this link. regarding Jesus answer for a sign.

Otherwise you have still not explained the text of Luke 21:10,11 in that it does hold all events mentioned as equals in respect to Jesus answer, without distinction. How does your understanding of Jesus answer for a sign explain that?

> As far as being disfellowshiped for a "personal disagreement alone", a judicial committee is now in the works for a friend who expressed to two elders that he doesn't believe that the Society is the "faithful and discreet slave." Even in Franz's book "Crisis of Conscience" on page 293 a copy of a letter from the Society states that point.

Yes, I am familiar with that outdated letter. Please, show me something that elders actually have that authorizes disfellowshipping for "personal disagreement alone". I contend that you will not find such authorization. Regarding personal and deviant views I contend that you will only find authorization for shunning action if those deviant views are used to sow discord.

Friend

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- ***********Awake! 12/8/99 Luis 18:00:58 10/28/99 (4)
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