# ********4 GB member

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Posted by Gedanken [Gedanken] on October 27, 1999 at 11:29:39 {dPkPwxsNJEHdgEG/iekYGxDfYXLgH2}:

In Reply to: *******4 GB member posted by ros on October 27, 1999 at 09:52:05:

Ros,

It's the same old COMF. From a practical standpoint it is clearly good if a GB member were to make amends. However, that it no way abrogates responsibility for past actions. I think COMF's point is, and I share his opinion, that we ought to think twice before turning these fellows into heroes, especially before they have actually done anything. They might be victims but they are also perpetrators. I don't know Ray Franz personally but he has gone a long way in advancing the cause of reform and he has shown great courage in so doing. COMF's assessment of him seems rather extreme given that. I would imagine, however, that Franz himself would see COMF's general point. On the other hand, these guys are not exactly criminals, at least no more than one might consider the CEO of Phillip Morris to be a murderer. Balance is called for but it is hard to converge to a balanced outlook when so many emotions are involved. Thus it is perfectly natural that we here will have extreme and opposite opinions when something new surfaces. Ideally we will modify our views as time passes, through exchanges such as COMF's, and reach a reasonable consensus. That is how reasonable people reach reasonable conclusions.

In my opinion the best approach is to be realistic and use whatever opportunity presents itself to advance the cause of eliminating WTS abuses. This GB member will have to prove his mettle before he warrants special considerations from those he has "knocked about" for so long.

Gedanken, who has read COMF's posts for a long time and values their directness.

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