# **Proclaimers Book

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Posted by Bibleman [Bibleman] on October 28, 1999 at 17:23:19 {BrTq3yWfsYMSSTtTA17sslyACFuF8c}:

In Reply to: *Proclaimers Book posted by FRED HALL on October 28, 1999 at 11:57:24:

Hi Fred,

It's a shame you don't know your own history. As late as 1937 the Witnesses still believed Jesus had arrived in 1874 and thus the date for the "end of the gentile times" (1914), the "last days" (1799) and "the Second Coming" (1874) were three different dates.

But it is logical to think that if Jesus took up kingdom power in 1874 that that should have been the date that the "gentile times" ended. They understood this generally, but had to make a half-way excuse as to why the gentile times didn't end when the Messiah arrived in kingdom power in 1874 instead of 40 years later. In 1928, the Harp of God tries to address just why this is so:

> Page 250 "The length of the Gentile times is definitely fixed in the Scriptures as a period of seven symbolic times of 360 years each, or a total of 2,520 years. This period beginning with the year 606 B.C. necessarily must end in 1914 A.D. God had declared that he would overturn the right of the descendants of Abraham to rule, thereby permitting the gentiles to have an uninterrupted sway until he should come whose right it is. The one whose right it is, is the great Messiah, Christ Jesus the Lord. It would be reasonable to expect him to be present some time before he would take unto himself his great power to reign. His presence beginning in 1874, he has carried on his harvest work from 1878 forward, but has not interrupted the Gentile dominion until that dominion should end. The end of the Gentile rule, therefore, would mark necessarily the end of the world. We should expect, then, to find 1914 as the beginning of the end of the old world or Satan's organization. And this would take place during the presence of the Lord he definitely stated."

Of course, now, the simple fulfillment is simply that when Christ takes up kingdom reign in 1914 that that is when the "gentile times" end, since he who has the right has begun to reign. They sensed this but gave him a preparation/practice period from 1874 to 1914. Which, having passed by now (1928) is now stretched out to not being Armageddon itself but just the "beginning of the end." Thus the end did begin in 1914 it was just not totally over yet.

Poor guys. When you have the wrong dates, it just takes a lot of explaining to do. This was 1928 mind you. They had the right understanding, just the wrong chronology, in the beginning. Now they have both the wrong understanding and the wrong chronology.

Oh well....

Cheers,
Bibleman

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