# **BIBLICAL MATHEMATICS

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Posted by Bibleman [Bibleman] on October 28, 1999 at 14:29:24 {BrTq3yWfsYMSSTtTA17sslyACFuF8c}:

In Reply to: *BIBLICAL MATHEMATICS posted by FRED HALL on October 28, 1999 at 12:42:23:

Oh, my! I'm so honored! I got Fred Hall's attention.

What is my point?

My point was for Al, basically, in that the Bible's chronology is part of what let's us know the Bible is inspired. There has to be a link between past dates and future dates and it all has to work out with multiple patterns of numbers. And if you have the wrong dates, then the patterns don't work out.

But Fred now that I have your moments attention. I've been in the "truth" a long time. But doesn't it seem strange to you that, in general, the main work of preaching and getting ready for the new order, that the Messiah should arrive at the very beginning of that generation instead of at the end?

I mean, I know it works out because the WTS has made note of the "parousia" which occurs during this whole time, these signs leading up to the big moment when the Messiah is to arrive. But ultimately, the context of all the parables and everything else is that the Messiah doesn't really come to inspect until near the end of that generation. When all the work has been done, the slaves have worked and brought in their increase.

Fundamentally, I don't see how witnesses can really say they understand what is going on when the Messiah arrives in 1914 before the work even gets started barely.

The "END" is the Second Coming. The "end of the system of things" is the "system of things" of the gentile times. When the Messiah takes up kingdom power again, then that ENDS that period when there was no earthly representative on God's throne.

The END of things is the Second Coming. The END of things is what all these signs are leading up to. Thus there is a difference between the "parousia" which is the entire time and the "coming" which is that specific time near the end of that generation. His coming in the clouds is the last thing expected to happen before the end of that generation.

That's so fundamental to me now. Yet I wonder how witnesses can not realize that second coming is what "ends" that generation. It doesn't begin it.

Thus, what the WTS thinks is happening now is so profoundly dark. Jehovah has cast them into such a deep pit of dysunderstanding. You need only read the scriptures afresh to see this.

1914 is the beginning of that generation...but that's all. Everything else must come near the end of that generation including the "END" of the gentile times.

Thanks for your note. I'm so honored! :>

Cheers,
Bibleman

P.S. For you, I guess my point is that it's time to wean off the Watchtower and focus on the Bible, more now than ever. Think about YOURSELF. YOUR LIFE! Your personal life that God has given you.
Jehovah gave everybody their own life. The GB were given their lives. The WTS has served its purpose. It's time to focus on the next step now.

But you must be focussed. You can't be like Lots wife worrying about Sodom and Gomorrah now. If that "city" is condemned then that's God's purpose and his choice. It's not for us to look back but to show our allegiance to the Creator. And to remember what this is all about. Taking advantage of the Random Sacrifice which boils down to selfishly saving our own little lives!

Don't let your devotion to an institution cut across that fundamental purpose. The PURPOSE of the organization was to help you get life. But now it may be interfering with that. You must not let that happen. You must think of YOURSELF. You must say to yourself: "I'm personally responsible to Fred. I must save this life."

That means moving toward the light. It will be painful, but you must, absolutely MUST do it!

Bible first....now.

It's the only way.

Have a nice day, Fred.

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