Posted by Cheeky [Cheeky] on October 25, 1999 at 15:02:35 {DjTI9F5X/Y0agrEMBCZM/TLhkFm5FU}:
In Reply to: *****Gulp, choke posted by Cygnus on October 25, 1999 at 14:24:52:
>"Wrong, it is not a simple concept. It is a fact of logic that if nothing exists, nothing can be "resurrected." There is nothing to resurrect. It can only be reproduced or re-created. Therefore, any "loved ones" who return in such a pseudo-resurrection are not the real "loved ones" but are copies, Xeroxes of the persons who lived and died years before."
I don't know what to say to that. You are just making up crap now. Jehovah is a great God, and doesn't need to xerox. ROTFLOL.
>"It is also a fact that JWs are hardly alone in promoting soul-sleep as a biblical teaching. Christadelphians, Seventh-Day Adventists, WWCOG Faith of Abraham, Associated Bible Students, and some other Adventist groups believe that the soul is the person."
Who? You are talking about puny little off shoots that I don't even recognize. Except the seventh day adventists, and the teachings of that religion vary depending on where you live. Granted a small group may have recognised this possibly after speaking with Jehovah's Witnesses, but is is less than on a grand scale and don't have other things going that Jesus said "you will recognize my people by.......one thing love. Do these people go to war and kill people?
>"Wrong. Jehovah's Witnesses do not preach what Jesus preached. That should be self-evident. The singular message JWs preach is that the world entered its "last days" in 1914AD and the great tribulation has been imminent since then. Jesus did not preach that."
No, you are wrong. Jesus said to preach the good news through out the inhabited earth, and THEN the end will come. Don't start on that stupid "date" reasoning again. That is another subject. Pay attention. Focus.
>"Wrong. Many of the Adventist groups above believe this. Plenty of evangelicals do, too, as I've discovered."
No, you are wrong. I was raised in one of the "many" groups you suggest and it is all hellfire teaching or going to heaven. Nothing is consistant with these people and again probably seen the reasoning after speaking with a Jehovah's Witness. We are the leaders in this way of thinking. Compare 6 million to a congregation scattered in opinion of maybe in the thousands. That probably wouldn't include all, because of their particular off shoots or opinion of the preacher.
">Now, will you simply switch the subject and not acknowledge any of this, or forget that any of this exists? "
Right back at ya, you guys are the masters of switching. It is funny how you take my words and try to apply them to me. Twist twist twist.