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Press Statement

Office of the Spokesman

Brussels, Belgium

April 3, 2003

 

Background Briefing on Secretary Powell's Meetings With NATO Officials

 

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: The Secretary started out, after a brief

introduction by Lord Robertson and by Papandreou -- they were the co-hosts. He

went through what the military situation on the ground is very briefly, how

much effort we make to avoid civilian casualties, how much we re sensitive to

the images on television that are upsetting to European publics, and as

upsetting to us.

 

He then talked briefly about the importance of the U.N., that there has to be a

partnership with the U.N. We can t say when that will all start, but that we

look forward to Kofi Annan appointing a coordinator or a representative of some

kind who can help get the U.N. efforts started. He closed by saying that he

would be very interested in hearing from all of his colleagues as to their

ideas about how to move ahead on Iraq, how to move ahead on the Middle East. He

mentioned briefly that the intention is that as soon as Abu Mazen gets his

thing confirmed that the roadmap will be issued and a lot of work will begin to

implement the roadmap.

 

He said that he would be very interested in hearing what all the ideas are of

his colleagues around the table, and that it s very important to look ahead to

how we can begin working together on establishing democracy, rule of law, etc.,

etc. in Iraq and not spend any time .

 

QUESTION: We re back to Iraq now?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Yes.

 

QUESTION: That s right. We know their ideas on the Middle East. We re talking

back to Iraq now, right?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Sorry, right. I switched back to Iraq. And

how important it was for us to look ahead on Iraq, to figure out all the ways

that we can work together on Iraq and not spend any time debating the things

that divided us in the past. He said that we will look to endorsement by

international organizations, international authorities, the U.N., for an Iraqi

interim authority, because of the importance of their being able to function as

part of the international community.

 

Then, his presentation was maybe 10 to 15 minutes. And then every single other

foreign minister in the room spoke. Each one was meant to be brief. They were

fairly brief. And to summarize, each one focused on the following: They focused

on, number one, how glad they were that he took the initiative to come talk to

them, that they thought it was not only a very important gesture but an

important way to get the dialogue going again. They all emphasized the

importance of a dialogue rather than a debate. That they appreciated his asking

them for their views of how we might begin working together on Iraq. Virtually

every single one of them said that they were very happy to hear that he

mentioned the importance of a role for the U.N. They looked forward to talking

about that as the situation develops so that we have a better sense of what

that would be.

 

And every single one of them mentioned how important it was that the United

States was committing to, not only issuing the roadmap, but working to

implement the roadmap in the period ahead.

 

Those were the major themes from each of them. There was a summing up at the

end in which the Secretary said that one of the things he s taking away from

this is that as he s listened to all the different ideas about the U.N. role,

that this is a dialogue, that there have been no decisions made about what the

role of the U.N is, since after all the U.N. isn t even sitting here. So we can

t make decisions for them. They have to be part of the dialogue.

 

 

QUESTION: They said that. Or the Secretary said that?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: The Secretary said that. The Secretary said

that. The U.N. isn' t sitting here. We can' t make decisions about the U.N. They're not here.

 

QUESTION: Apart from saying that the U.N. should have a role, an important

role, did he actually put any flesh on that and say what role and how it would

be related to the ...

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: No.

 

QUESTION: He used the word, partnership in his words?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Yes. Partnership with the U.N., important

role of the U.N. What he said at the end is it' s important we not use words

that make it look like we made a decision about what that role is exactly

because it s too early to determine that, number one. And number two it cannot

be determined without further discussions with the U.N. itself since Kofi Annan

himself doesn t want to be the director of Iraq.

 

QUESTION:. I can only think of two constructions of what you' re telling us that

the others said.

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Okay.

 

QUESTION: Either that in two magical hours all the opposition to the U.S.

approach for post-war Iraq is melted away. If that' s the spin you re trying to

give us, it ain' t going to go down. The second construction that' s possible is

he didn' t ask for any decision, that he made the point this is all preliminary

discussion.

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: That s right. That s exactly right.

 

QUESTION: We' ve got to talk to the U.N. and, by the way, did he say when he s

going to see Kofi Annan?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: No.

 

QUESTION: Because he told us he d see him soon.

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: I don t know when he s going to see him. He

didn' t say.

 

QUESTION: So, everything is sort of on hold?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: It s the beginning of a discussion. It s the

beginning of a dialogue. Nothing is decided. At the end, he said he very much

appreciated all the comments. He wanted to take them back to Washington for

discussion with his cabinet colleagues, what their views are about the U.N.

But the critical thing is nothing is decided. Too early to decide. Not

possible to decide. But one of the ...

 

QUESTION: Certainly outside of the U.N. it s too early?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Outside the U.N, certainly it s too early to

decide.

 

QUESTION: Did anyone ask him what U.N. role he does envisage? Did they press

him on this point?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Partly because of the nature of the

discussion. He speaks. They each speak. By then we re already way past time. So

he only had about a minute to respond. So they presented their comments on what

he had said or on what the others had said.

So there s a whole range between us, which is why we need to talk to the U.N.,

about what kind of role. Is there going to be a coordinator? Would that be a

good idea? How to get the U.N. humanitarian workers in, because of the security

situation? How is all that going to work, which the U.N. has to help us out

with? All the way to, the U.N. has to be in charge.

 

QUESTION: What about NATO peacekeepers?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Was there any talk of NATO peacekeepers?

 

QUESTION: Because [Spanish Foreign Minister Ana] Palacio thought maybe it s

time to get into it.

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: I believe I'm correct in saying there was

zero talk of NATO peacekeepers there. One or two might have said one thing to

keep in mind is the U.N. has a role, the EU has a way of participating, NATO

might even have a way of participating. But absolutely nothing except that.

That s the sort of thing that could come up now, in the next bit [meeting].

 

QUESTION: Oh, what s now?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Now [the next meeting] is NATO only.

 

QUESTION: What was this earlier?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: This [previous meeting] was NATO and the EU

together.

 

QUESTION: And now we re just going to have NATO?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: And now it' s just NATO.

 

QUESTION: On the question of international endorsement of the interim

authority, how much opposition was there?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: None. None. The way it was discussed ...

 

QUESTION: Was there any support for it?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: The way most people discussed it, they all

said it was important for the U.N. to participate, that the U.N. have a role.

And there are all kinds of gradations of what that role could be. But, U.N.

endorsement, not only of the Iraqi interim authority or whatever, but U.N.

endorsement of, approval, participation there were all kinds of words used

for any arrangement as there is a transition from the military to the civilian

authorities. Some of the things that are obvious is that you have got to have a

U.N. authorized way to sell the oil, so that there s ownership - legal

ownership - of the oil under Oil for Food [program].

 

QUESTION: Did he speak of the U.N. coordinator, which is what

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: He did mention the importance of a U.N.

representative or U.N. coordinator I think he said U.N. coordinator. He said

we have to be careful about what titles, because we don't want to use titles

that connote the wrong thing. So I don t know what title it would have.

 

QUESTION: But some U.N. ...

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Somebody that we can work with.

 

QUESTION: Was there any talk of a conference in relation to the interim

authority in Baghdad conference?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: There were a couple of references to Wouldn't it be a good idea to have something like the Bonn conference?

 

QUESTION: Not from him [Secretary Powell] though?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: No.

 

QUESTION: On the roadmap, I know how hell-bent they are. Oh yeah, I know where

they' re coming from.

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Every one of them mentioned the roadmap. At

the end, in his [Secretary Powell s] sum-up, he said I really appreciate the

support for the roadmap, but please understand that it can t just be issued and

magical things happen. And it s not going to be just imposed. It s going to

take a heck of a lot of work to get the sides to implement the roadmap. But

President Bush has committed to pushing very hard.

 

QUESTION: He and Rice have said it s not negotiable. They ve already caved to

the Europeans. So he s not pulling back on that?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: No. He s not pulling back on that. And

several asked about that. They said, Are you sure you mean it s not to be

negotiated? and he said, It s going to be issued the way it is.

 

QUESTION: And then implementing it is the serious ...

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Implementing is the serious issue and that s

why we ve asked the Europeans for help with this.

 

QUESTION: In the way it is?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Yes. In the way it is.

 

QUESTION: But with this level of detail on the U.N. role, he s not going into

any more detail in the bilats? Is that where he s giving ...

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: That s right. In the bilats he s giving

exactly the same thing.

 

QUESTION: Okay.

QUESTION: Humanitarian assistance? Anything specific?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Mostly the focus was on the importance of

humanitarian assistance. In his presentation he talked about how much he

appreciates the E.U. humanitarian money that s already been put forward by

Chris Patten, the importance of getting the humanitarian assistance in, the

importance of the U.N. security coordinator authorizing ...

 

QUESTION: But nothing more specific in terms of (unintelligible) . . . clearing

mines?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: No. There was no real discussion of any

specifics like that. It was much more concept.

 

QUESTION: So (unintelligible) will be provider of . . .

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Exactly.

 

QUESTION: I m not trying to put words in your mouth but it sounds like there

was no assertion of positions in any serious terms. It sounds rather amiable.

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: The atmosphere was really good.

 

QUESTION: Are you sure the French were there?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Yes. And the French were the same. Let s talk

about the future, looking ahead, important to do that, atmosphere was good

because he came. Because he took the initiative to talk to them. Because he

said that it s important to get the roadmap out without it being renegotiated.

Because he said that we want an important role for the U.N.

 

QUESTION: Oh, you' re talking about

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: This is my why did it go well?

 

QUESTION: But on Iraq, nobody said, Oh, you re rewarding the belligerents? Or

You re trying to impose democracy on the back of a cruise missile? None of

this heated nastiness?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: None. None.

 

QUESTION: That was Ivanov, of course. But Chirac spoke of the belligerents

getting rewarded by running Iraq?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: There was no talk like that.

 

QUESTION: No such talk?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: No talk like that at all. It was good. A lot

of work still to do. That was the other thing. We have a lot of work to do.

 

QUESTION: What s next date? Any ...

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: Well, right now we have the NAC meeting, so

there will be a lot more discussion of that kind of thing.

 

QUESTION: But he hasn t said something like, I'll see you at the NATO spring

meeting, or maybe something in between?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: No. There was some talk of the U.S.-E.U.

summit, but that s not until the end of June.

 

QUESTION: So he didn' t set up for two weeks from now, huh?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL: No.

[End]

Released on April 3, 2003

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