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Re: What about 20 years ago?

Last update: August 4, 2002



[On July 17, 2002, a person named Doe posted the following message at the Discussion Forum hosted by Mr. James R. Davis, a self-claimed certified MSF instructor:]


I read this forum daily and each time I read about the technical skills of riding, the same question pops into my head. How in the world did people ride motorcycles before all this technical stuff was developed?

When I told my dad about countersteering, he said he had never heard of it. He said he has always leaned the bike himself, not steered the bike into a lean. I didn't even mention about looking toward the direction you want to go because I knew he wouldn't have done that either.

So, my next question, how did they manage to ride safely twenty years ago and earlier? Is it because motorcycles have so much more power today?




[On July 18, 2002, I posted a message close to the following at the same site in response to the above post by Doe. Since it was a short message I did not save the actual version I posted.]


Dear Doe:

There was no MSF 20 years ago. The riders back then learned through their bodies, not through their heads.

They managed well by themselves.

Ask your father.



Julian


P.S. In all fairness I must say the death rate per 100,000 registered motorcycles dropped from 74 in 1982 to 66 in 2000, showing a drop of 10.8%. Don't get excited MSF fans! The death rate per 100,000 registered passenger cars dropped from 21 to 16 in the same period, a drop of 23.8%.

For the full report: http://www.hwysafety.org/safety%5Ffacts/fatality%5Ffacts/motorcycles.pdf




[In the next post, I made a correction regarding the problem with the link mentioned in the above message. If the above link doesn't display the report the reader should do a search with the two words, motorcycle and accident, wait for the list to show up, then choose the file, Fatality Facts - Motorcycles Fatality Facts _ MOTORCYCLES Motorcycles are less stable and less visible than cars, and they have high performance capabilities. For these and other reasons, motorcycles are more likely than cars to be in crashes. And when motorcycles crash, their riders lack the protection of an enclosed vehicle, (142,263 bytes - 5/9/2002 3:06:12 PM GMT), which is most likely to be the 2nd on the list.]





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