J: It was a red room.
D: And you'd go in there and...
J: And that was where we went in to kind of debrief about the day, and they would ask us questions and get info.
D: But it really was a total blackout. You knew nothing about anything.
J: Absolutely.
D: You knew Nixon's dead, right?
J: I did not know that.
D: And then, as the show progressed, they started trying to give you suggestions of things to do on the show. Is that true?
J: Mn-hmm.
D: Now, these are the producers?
J: Yeah.
D: What did they want you to do?
J: The best thing was, two days before I was thrown out, it was clear that I was going to banished. They knew I was going to be banished. They knew I was going to be banished. It was a landslide vote.
D: Yeah.
J: And I get this...you know, I was wandering around the house one day, and they said, "Jordan to the red room, please."
D: Oh, you hear that on like a speaker or something?
J: Yeah. So I went to the red room. This rarely happens by the way. So I go to the red room and this voice comes on, and says, "So, we're interested in you dancing. Would you like us to accommodate you?"
D: Oh. Ooh. Ooh.
J: And I said, "You know I may have made a bad decision coming on this show, but I'm not a total idiot, you know. I'm not going to do a striptease." Yeah, why don't you just roll in the mobile DJ and the collapsible disco ball, and I'll just do a lap dance right here on national television. You know?
D: Yeah. They were manipulating you.
J: I mean, you know, what are they thinking?
D: See, they were trying to take advantage of you, you know? Don't you think, a little bit? Not a little bit, a lot.
J: A little bit.
D: Yeah. What kind of things would people do during the day to spend the time, you know? What would they do? What were the activities?
J: People were chore-happy. They'd just do chores, play with the chickens, play cards.
D: Was it a nice house?
J: It was a nice house.
D: Did it smell funny?
J: Yeah.
D: It did, didn't it? It smelled like...
J: Yeah, it did. It did.
D: But the chores...now, were there chores that needed to be done, or just activities?
J: There were some chores that needed to be done, but when people finished their chores they would panic and think, "I might have to interact with people now," and they'd make up new chores.
D:Yeah, yeah.
J: So then they'd keep doing chores all day.
D: And why did they vote you out of the house? Why did they nominate you? What was that all about?
J: I think they were afraid of me.
D: Yeah.
J: Yeah.
D: But see, all kidding aside, if you're gone, what are you left with? Who cares, you know what I'm saying? Honestly. It's people feeding chickens.
J: That's funny you say that, because when I first go out of the house, I was just mortified, and I was so upset with how they edited me. And then I watched one of the shows, and I thought, you know, I don't really blame them for trying to surround me with some drama, because watching people be chore-happy and watching Karen longingly pet this chicken in slow-motion really blows. You know? It just really blows. And so I'm like, I can see why they tried to surround me with some drama.
D: Now, was there wild, out-of-control sexual activity? Because they had everybody sleeping together.
J: Yes, there was, there was. It was wild. And they didn't show any of it.
D: Really?
J: Yeah, yeah.
D: But they had to, because it was cameras 24 hours a day. So was there or not?
J: No.
D: There was not?
J: No. No.
D: And in the beginning, your boyfriend...what's his name? Herb?
J: Ben.
D: He was nervous because see, "Oh, there goes my girlfriend into the house with all of these people." He was nervous. How's he doing now?
J: He's doing fine.
D: Did you have...was he upset about anything?
J: There were some words, but he watched the internet feeds.
D: Ah, that's the key.
J: Which I think really helped him.
D: Yeah, sure.
J: So, that's the key.
D: And who now wins? Who will be the big winner? Who do you think will win?
J: I think probably George or Cassandra are going to win. Yeah.
D: People are applauding. Honest to God, have you seen this show? Did they make you eat rats?
J: No. No.
D: So what will you do nowh's on the agenda for you?
J: I'm going to finish my book, and I thought...I thought I was going to get on this... I thought I was going to get on this big campaign to, you know, right myself, because there is all this controversy surrounding what was I doing ioh thoetal, and I was manipulative. And I thought you know, l really need to set the record straight. And then the other day I thought, you know, who really gives a rat's ass?
D: Exactly.
J: You know?
D: Exactly. Are you going to be in one of those magazines--Playboy--or something like that?
J: No.
D: Well, Good for you. Well, it's nice meeting you and when you get the book out, come on back, and we'll talk more about it.
J: Okay.
D: All right. Thanks for being here. It's Jordan, ladies and gentlemen. We'll be right back.