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Comments/Questions Concerning Predestination, Election, and Free Will

It is nice to meet you too Mr. Orlando. If you couldn't tell from the email Pop forwarded to you, I attend a Church of Nazarene but did a Romans study with a brother on the side. I believe it was in between chapters 6 through 8 that predestination floated into my mind. I recall in your correspondence to our email that you said you were a predestinationalist and I had some questions... Having been a full blown free will believer, my world has been rattled to say the least. Personal studies have lead me more to believe we are chosen. Predestination sounds like it places a little too much blame on God. I believe we (Christians) are chosen by God before He created the world and at any point in time, a nonbeliever can become a believer (thus Christ gave the great commission). However, I believe we choose sin. I think God gives a choices to make however I totally believe He knows what we are going to choose beforehand (foreknowledge). I think predestination is God physically doing it Himself or Him promising something. For example, in Exodus, God (Jesus??) in the burning bush promises to harden Pharaoh's heart 5 times and Pharaoh hardening his own heart 5 times. Then there is Christ's promise of His return. It hasn't happened yet but God promised it would. To me that means it is going to happen, God has predestined or preordained that to take place and nothing or no one is going to stop it. But God Himself will make it happen therefore He has the responsibility of it. Just like my salvation. I believe God chose me to do something in His body... I don't believe I chose Him but He chose me and He opened my eyes, the Spirit came and here I am. Jesus told the Apostles, "it is not you who chose me but I who chose you". So, my question is why do you think predestination is the right way? With my current Pastor and all y friends from this Church, I stand alone. They all believe in free will and that is fine. IT isn't what i like to call a "faith hinderer" of which i have only encountered one (Dead Sea Scrolls discussing Christ killing animals as a boy). I am just looking for more Biblical support than what i have managed to find on my own. I realize that I may have to leave my Nazarene Church and my Methodist upbringing over this but that doesn't bother me too much. God will place me where He sees fit. So if you have any words or support for me on this, Id' greatly appreciate it! :)

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