EDITED CHAT TRANCRIPT
NOV 24, 2002
Chat site: http://pub13.bravenet.com/chat/show.php?usernum=1072951325&cpv=1
Selene's log-on: [Sun Nov 24 16:07:35 CST 2002] TheLadySelene: [email protected]
LADY SELENE: Thank you for being here, I am sure that you all have so much you want to discuss. So do I, I've had another dream.
LADY SELENE: I was in a small enclosed space.
HMMINGBIRD1948: a closet? a small room?
LADY SELENE: It could have been a closet, or an underground room, or maybe even a mausoleum
WUUD: or a cellar, maybe?
LADY SELENE: perhaps, but it was cold, and I was in a great deal of pain what type of pain?
LADY SELENE: everything hurt, but most of all, my back.
WUUD: was anyone there with you?
LADY SELENE: it felt as though there were a great many people, but I knew I was alone and in the dream, I even felt as if I were imagining the people around me
LADY SELENE: and I knew I needed to get out of there.
LADY SELENE: so I wandered through the darkeness until finally I found my way into a meadow
LADY SELENE: In the meadow was a little boy, a child really, a baby.
LADY SELENE: And he looked at me, and as he smiled, blood pooled out of his mouth.
LADY SELENE: And I knew it was him, the Boddy that the Reverend speaks of. And as he reached his tiny hand out for me, I awoke.
LADY SELENE: I fear he may be aware of me now.
LADY SELENE: That makes it even more important that we discuss things.
CASE_JUSTIN: When did you dream this?
LADY SELENE: Last night.
CASE_JUSTIN: Could you describe the boy,,, baby... thing for us please? images, impressions...
LADY SELENE: The form of a child is often that of innocence, the blood exposes a corruption of that innocence.
LADY SELENE: He could be of any age.
HMMINGBIRD1948: the man at the corner of h & v-whom the rev met-blood pooled out os his mouth too-onto a 'star'-any connection???
CEMGATE: or do you just feel "EVIL" from him? WUUD: is there any other way to recognise him besides the blood?
LADY SELENE: Yes, I believe the Reverend had a similar experience on H&V. Whether real or imagined, I cannot tell simply from the journal.
LADY SELENE: Impressions of the boy..
LADY SELENE: Very young, blond hair, blue eyes, a few months old... and he was wet
JGFAMA: wet?
CEMGATE: wow that's young
LADY SELENE: As far as Evil, and what Noah Boddy is involved in, I am not yet aware of the process.
MARIAANGELICA: tim?
LADY SELENE: But it clearly is a transformation of some kind
LADY SELENE: A transformation that is preying on the innocent
LADY SELENE: As for the blood, it's not yet clear in my sight but it does feel connected to his motivations and his desire for power at the cost of others' spirit.
KISBUNDAS: so is noah boddy a child, or does he just take the form/shape of a child in your visions...not being blessed with visions myself, I'm not sure how these things generally work
LADY SELENE: about the boy..
LADY SELENE: He was young, but I sensed much more evil than what could possibly be from an actual baby. can you remember anything about his eyes? aside from being blue...
LADY SELENE: They were deep and concious and very aware CHAS: Going back, you mentioned feeling pain in the dream; physical, psychic or a combination? Can you provide more detail?
LADY SELENE: physical pain, an overwhelming abomination radiating from the lower back. JGFAMA: has the pain subsided?
HMMINGBIRD1948: what do u think the pain in your back symbolizes?? CHAS: He did not touch you there, did he?
LADY SELENE: Pain in the back: the pain was only during the dream.
LADY SELENE: And no, he never touched me in the dream... Had he done so, I don't think I would be here today to talk to you.
LADY SELENE: The pain felt present, as though it was not a symbol, but a memory.
REXBURTON: what do you think the blood is a symbol of?
CEMGATE: Do you know "what" Noah Boddy is, do you know what he's doing...the process he's involved in?
WUUD: do you feel him getting closer?
LADY SELENE: He remains in the North, and it is possible that he does not yet know where I am, after all, he did not reach me before the dream ended.
LADY SELENE: But I do think he's searching.
HZ1P: how can we help?what can we do?
HMMINGBIRD1948: North??? northen California????
LADY SELENE: Yes, I believe Northern California
HMMINGBIRD1948: yikes now far noth in cali-please??
LADY SELENE: I'm not sure how far.
HMMINGBIRD1948: i am in no cal
CEMGATE: Do you know "what" Noah Boddy is, do you know what he's doing, the "process" he's involved in?
Q CONTINUUM: Is Noah Boddy human? Have you fought an evil entity before? Can you explain why you are caught up in this?
LADY SELENE: Is Noah Boddy human? I assume so.
LADY SELENE: Dark energy abounds, and sometimes can become aware. When that happens, it must be neutralized.
WUUD: an old flasher, a young boy, how will we know Boddy when we find him? And what about the people he has control over?
LADY SELENE: And that most likely explains why I am caught up in this. The Goddess has blessed me greatly but such power comes with responsibility.
LADY SELENE: To find him, I would start looking for those who control aspects of society: power, corporation, money
LADY SELENE: The legal system, politics, medicine...
CHAS: But Lady, doesn't Wica say you must embarce the dark side within as well? How are you to recignize the difference?
LADY SELENE: For myself, I have read numerous instances of dark power being practiced against mankind. Vlad the Impaler, Rasputin, Attilla the Hun, even Hitler
LADY SELENE: All of them attempted to harness dark energy for their own gain.
CEMGATE: Is there a precedent for what is happening with Boddy in any ancient literature or vision of times past? And if so are there ways known to combat Boddy effectively once found?
LADY SELENE: Noah Boddy in the past...
LADY SELENE: The Reverend apparently thinks that what is happening with Noah Boddy has some connection to the bible.
DORTREK1: Is The Rev's situation similar to that in the Stephen King book, "The Stand"?
LADY SELENE: I am not familiar with "The Stand" so I do not know
DORTREK1: Do you think that Mike is a good person and will help The Rev?
LADY SELENE: Mike is an unknown to me, I have meditated upon him, and have felt nothing. Nither good, nor evil, not indifferent. He may be a psychic block.
KISBUNDAS: what is a psychic block?
LADY SELENE: There are those who are naturally able to defend again being "read" on a psychic level
KISBUNDAS: is that done conciously or subconciously?
LADY SELENE: They are generally cynical and disbelieving people.. Doubting Thomases if you will.
JGFAMA: You mention in your journal that you did a reading for a man who seemed to turn into 2 men...can you tell us more about this and the man?
LADY SELENE: I will get to the ones who asked, and then we shall go one at a time to make sure we get everyone... Now, about the reading...
LADY SELENE: As I said in my journal, when the reading began, the cards came out in sequential order... Something I have never seen happen before, or since.
JGFAMA: care to explain? sorry,, if I'm out of turn
LADY SELENE: And when I looked up at him, there were two men sitting next to each other, neither of whom looked like the gentleman who was actually sitting there.
LADY SELENE: One of them was very old, and the other one was in his teens.
LADY SELENE: The older one was clearly dominant in regards to the younger one, they were a couple.. somehow... and I don't mean sexually... They were connected
LADY SELENE: I blinked, and they were both gone
CHAS: Followup clarification please, did you also see him as well?
LADY SELENE: Not for those couple of seconds.
CHAS: ty
LADY SELENE: I can only conjecture that they were relatives, or family members, strongly connected to him in some fashion. The younger one, certainly, had some relationship to him. Younger brother perhaps.
GUPFEE: why is there no entry in your journal for June?
SOME BODDY: do you sense the father knows of your existence and search for him?
LADY SELENE: Of course he does.
KISBUNDAS: Selene: you seem very certain that the Reverend is aware of you...how can you be so sure? Have you met formally?
LADY SELENE: I have never "met" the reverend, and have only seen him twice. Once in my dream. Once on the bus from Denver. But he has mentioned me in his journal, so he is at least aware that I exist.
LADY SELENE: Whether he has tracked me down as your group did, I am not sure. But he has clearly read your group's messages, so very well may know of me from there.
LADY SELENE: He has not yet emailed me however, but did give that information to you.
SASSY: Selene, why did you stop practicing divination?
LADY SELENE: Now the divination question, and why I don't practice.
LADY SELENE: The last time I attempted such I was given a very clear metaphorical fork in the road.
LADY SELENE: Until the issue of Noah Boddy is decided... There is no future to divine...
DORTREK1: very scarey
LADY SELENE, in your reading, what was the significance of the cards in sequential order?
LADY SELENE: Significance of sequential cards...
LADY SELENE: A Tarot deck, for those who don't know, is very similar to a modern playing card deck.
SASSY: <---knows our future. 6 of us will win prizes. LADY SELENE: There are suits, 4 of them, as well as Major Arcana cards which are similar to face cards of modern standard decks. LADY SELENE: Now imagine shuffling a normal deck and drawing out the 1,2,3,4,5... all of clubs SASSY: oooh, yikes JGFAMA: are you ok sassy? LADY SELENE: The odds against that are staggering. And in the case of a Tarot deck, where the psychic energy of both reader and questioner are invested in the reading... SASSY: the odds are pretty high against that LADY SELENE: The odds are even worse. LADY SELENE: It has never happened to me, and I am still studying the significance of the order myself. >
MARIAANGELICA: What type of spread did you do
LADY SELENE: The stronger energy is of the one getting the reading, the reader uses her energy merely to help focus.
LADY SELENE: Many spreads are useful.
CHAS: Who's energy is stronger, or are they equal?
GRACE: If I may ask? what was the first impression of the significance of the order?
MARIAANGELICA: which one for that reading
LADY SELENE: The one I did that day was the standard cross, the most basic, 10 cards, and yes that meant 10 sequential cards.
JGFAMA: All ten? or the first four?
LADY SELENE: All 10
JGFAMA: Oh, I thought it was only four!
LADY SELENE: First impression of the significance of the order, and then we'll move on...
CHAS: What do coins represent?
LADY SELENE: The cards that come up are based on a certain randomness, but are a reflection of an ordered energy that surrounds the person who is being read.
LADY SELENE: The randomness is part of life, and a tarot reading is designed to make sense out of that randomness
ALH1213: don't coins or sometime called Penticles represent finance
LADY SELENE: Having 10 cards in sequential order is a perfect structure, there is no randomness there. It should be impossible.
SASSY: So, basically this dude has an intense, step by step plan before him?
LADY SELENE: After all, think of a card trick magician...
LADY SELENE: They can make cards come out in any order they want to... but they're CHEATING to do so.. and that was my first impression, that somebody, somewhere, was cheating...
JGFAMA: to send you a messgae? good or bad?
SASSY: oooh
LADY SELENE: I will be happy to post a bit more on the Tarot on my site tonight for all
WUUD: or to send you a sign? Have you seen this guy since?
LADY SELENE: I don't believe it was to send me a sign, I believe the cards were indeed telling of the person...
LADY SELENE: but it could be.
CASE_JUSTIN: Is there any way we can help you in your fight? Any friends or info we could look up?
JGFAMA: could he have been our noah boddy?
LADY SELENE: One mustn't ignore a sign as significant as that, I am still working on it.
LADY SELENE: No, that much is certain.
JGFAMA: ok
LADY SELENE: But a connection, possibly.
MARIAANGELICA: were any of the cards in reverse key
LADY SELENE: I have not seen him since.
JGFAMA: he may be able to help...earth energy
LADY SELENE: None were reverse
Q CONTINUUM: If you meet up with Abednego, Mike, the Librarian (and others), how might your group attempt to defeat Noah Boddy?
LADY SELENE: I do not follow the Judeo-Christian believe system, but I know that some in your group do. The more we can find out within Abednego's journal, the better.
LADY SELENE: I am sure there is more within there than has currently been found.
WUUD: so you're saying that there is a method to the madness?
LADY SELENE: Defeating Noah Boddy would depend on who he is.. But I do want to talk about the Librarian...
FIVECENTDAD: Lady, the reverend seems to think you are the "librarian". Do you have idea why he might believe this? Could it be from when he saw you in Denver?
LADY SELENE: And then we will go to some who have not yet asked questions.
LADY SELENE: Perfect. I am not the Librarian, and I do not think from reading his journal that he thinks that I am.
LADY SELENE: I know that I was mentioned in the same entry that he speaks of the Librarian, but I believe that reference was independent to me.
FIVECENTDAD: But he used YOUR address when asking "where's the librarian?" Maybe he thinks you should know, or can find out?
LADY SELENE: The REverend's thought processes in those journals clearly bounce from place to place.
LADY SELENE: Perhaps I can find out.
LADY SELENE: But if so, I don't know how yet
LADY SELENE: But when I read that journal, I gained an impression...
MOA-NIGHT: Did you get the impression, from the Reverend's latest entry, that he wishes for us to call the Librarian, much like he had us contact you?
LADY SELENE: There is a suburb, a gated community, where nothing bad ever happens.
WUUD: some gate--where is it?
FIVECENTDAD: In So. Cal.?
LADY SELENE: The community is South East of me, a desert town, a place where the warmth washes over you.
SASSY: Sun City
WUUD: how far inland?
SASSY: Arizona
LADY SELENE: And somewhere inside that community, someone writes with a quill pen, surrounded by parchment...
FIVECENTDAD: A scribe? I KNEW it! :-)
DORTREK1: Perhaps a monastery
LADY SELENE: My impressions are not an exact science, but I can rarely sense things to such geographical accuracy much beyond lets say my State or so
FIVECENTDAD: Sas, I think Sun City would be NE, rather than SE.
FIVECENTDAD: Do you get any sense that the librarian possesses a psychic ability, such as your own?
WUUD: do you sense a religious community or maybe a univercity?
LADY SELENE: About the librarian's psychic ability?
LADY SELENE: The only impressions that I have received of the librarian is that of careful, methodical, and patient.
LADY SELENE: Whether the librarian has psychic ability I do not know.
WUUD: we may need to use the librarians ability.
LADY SELENE: Yes, I have some to backtrack on. Then I will take others.
WUUD: is the librarian in the gated community?
SASSY: ...and is the gate for the whole town?
ROOBYFISH: do you think that the rev's madness is caused purely by his knwledge of moah boddy, or is there another factor?
LADY SELENE: That's a good question...
LADY SELENE: Without speaking to the Reverend I cannot be sure.
LADY SELENE: I think the speculation on your group is correct, something in Stanley's journal has triggered knowledge in the Reverend...
LADY SELENE: he is feeling an intense personal guilt about it.
WUUD: I think maybe Boddy is interfereing-everyone concentrate
LADY SELENE: It is entirely possible, this many people talking about him could very well draw his attention.
ROOBYFISH: do you think that his madness is essential to his communication with you, noah or the librarian?
LADY SELENE: It is possible that his madness is essential. History has often related the ability of the mad, or the touched,
LADY SELENE: or those with visions.
LADY SELENE: All of them have a greater sense of the unknown.
KISBUNDAS: Do you sense his presence here tonight?
LADY SELENE: I do not sense his presence as of yet, but I do sense a gathering energy.
JGFAMA: can we stop/reverse the energy
LADY SELENE: go ahead and as again. MARYJO_IN_MASS: Lady - what made you sick as a child. What disease?
LADY SELENE: About my childhood sickness...
LADY SELENE: When I was quite young, I was diagnosed with leukemia
LADY SELENE: I was quite severly sick for quite sime time.
MARYJO_IN_MASS: how did they treat you?
LADY SELENE: The doctors attempted all of the standard procedures, bone marrow, radiation...
MARYJO_IN_MASS: Did you have any near death experiences?
LADY SELENE: Nothing worked until the healer showed up. Standard medical practices were looking bleak, as were the doctors.
LADY SELENE: As I mentioned in my biography, when the faith healer touched me and I saw a beautiful woman who gave me her message...
MARYJO_IN_MASS: yes i remember that
LADY SELENE: it was at that time that the doctors had near given up on me
LADY SELENE: I flatlined
LADY SELENE: They were reluctant to revive me.
LADY SELENE: As the illness was in advanced levels.
LADY SELENE: And I was so young and in pain nearly all the time.
MARYJO_IN_MASS: I can't imagine how you suffered
HMMINGBIRD1948: <<<
LADY SELENE: the pain was completely removed when i was given my sfasddsfgasdfkjkjereitklasdfnadflwkefqj0934u5034jtasgasd
WUUD: are you still in contact with the healer-we may need his help.
LADY SELENE: fdskngsadfkjoiwer0239as
LADY SELENE: m,xcvnsdf42r0sdfaslkdfasdf
HMMINGBIRD1948: ooopssssssss
LADY SELENE: gnrowefsdfasdf
HMMINGBIRD1948: um..........
LADY SELENE: hello there.
HMMINGBIRD1948: gibberish?
HMMINGBIRD1948: yikes !!!!!!!
ROOBYFISH: selene?
WUUD: are you OK/
HMMINGBIRD1948: is it just on my screen-or everyone's?
GUPFEE: methinks the lady is channeling a bad typist MARYJO_IN_MASS: what as that? HMMINGBIRD1948: uh ohhhhhh
CASE_JUSTIN: Hello our Lady, how do you feel?
DORTREK1: Maybe another CODE
HMMINGBIRD1948: bad interference-dark stuff-this is not good
LADY SELENE: you seem to think that there is hope and there is none.
HMMINGBIRD1948: hmmmmmmmmm...........??????????
CASE_JUSTIN: Hello Noah
LADY SELENE: you seem to think that Selene can stop this and she cannot.
HMMINGBIRD1948: OH MY
DORTREK1: Selene has been overpowered
HMMINGBIRD1948: YOU GET OUT OF HERE RIGHT NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WUUD: But we all can together!!!!
LADY SELENE: you seem to think that you all have a chance and there is nothing that can be done there is nothing that can be done to stop him he is everything and all things and the world will fall to him
FIVECENTDAD: No, she can't by herself! But we all together can... so beat it, boddy!
MOA-NIGHT: And who might you be?
CASE_JUSTIN: you won't overpower all of us
ROOBYFISH: abednego?
HMMINGBIRD1948: U BAD EVIL I DON'T LIKE U
HMMINGBIRD1948: WE ARE STRONGER THAN U
LADY SELENE: you have no power over Noah. He can destroy everyone if he wishes and he will come to everyone in time.
LADY SELENE: There is nothing to fear.
LADY SELENE: Noah Boddy is watching after all
HMMINGBIRD1948: WHITE MAGIC IS STRONGER THAN BLACK U JERK
CASE_JUSTIN: who are you?
LADY SELENE: Selene will fall to Noah. The Father will fall to Noah. The librarian will fall to Noah
WUUD: Lady, are you all right?
LADY SELENE: We are you
HMMINGBIRD1948: bad bad evil evil
JGFAMA: I think it was the question about her being torn in two
HMMINGBIRD1948: we are stronger than U
LADY SELENE: There is no escape
GUPFEE: /me gets out her garlic necklace
CHAS: WE do not believe you!!!!
LADY SELENE: There is no choice
LADY SELENE: There is no salvation
FIVECENTDAD: Only if you separate us can we fall. And you will not do that.
LADY SELENE: Purgatory is not what it once was asdasdgasdfnaweorh23590u34515412rfasdfasdr
HMMINGBIRD1948: yes there is escape and choice and free will
LADY SELENE: asdfjq034tsdgklhasdg[a0235rq24rfasdf
LADY SELENE: nv0asdfqh04hrasdfhasdgasdga SASSY: Lmao1
FIVECENTDAD: Lady coming back, I think....
HMMINGBIRD1948: we as a group are stronger than this evil entity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JGFAMA: I hope!
LADY SELENE: Oh...my...
JGFAMA: are U ok?
HMMINGBIRD1948: oh my
DORTREK1: Are you all right, Selene?
HMMINGBIRD1948: LADY SELENE?????
CASE_JUSTIN: be carfull Selene, Noah is on to you
SASSY: If pea soup omes out of my computer, I am loggin off.
HMMINGBIRD1948: prove to us that it is U DORTREK1: LOL
LADY SELENE: yes... I am okay., but feeling strange
JGFAMA: I'm with Sassy
LADY SELENE: what happened?
LADY SELENE: WOW
DORTREK1: You were channelling an evil entity
SASSY: You got possessed by demons
HMMINGBIRD1948: Selene NB tool control of u
FIVECENTDAD: It seemed NB took over for a bit.
LADY SELENE: let me copy this transcript first
SASSY: Dman spooks
HMMINGBIRD1948: we fought him off tho !!!!!!!!
HMMINGBIRD1948: woooo wooooo wooooo wooooo wo
FIVECENTDAD: He was espousing dire threats. But we didn't fall for it.
HMMINGBIRD1948: bad bad NB
JGFAMA: PLEASE HURRY BEFORE IT GOES AWAY MAGICALLY
SASSY: No pea soup or head spinning tho, so don't be embarrassed.
HMMINGBIRD1948: we are stronger!! indeed!
HMMINGBIRD1948: white magic strong here
MOA-NIGHT: It wasn't NB, or if it was, he must be controlled by something greater.
LADY SELENE: I think I should copy this and look at it further...
HMMINGBIRD1948: I DID A SPELL DORTREK1: It said "we are you"
GUPFEE: urge to burst out laughing strong here
HMMINGBIRD1948: NB is near where I live
CASE_JUSTIN: I would tend to agree moa-Night
HMMINGBIRD1948: lol
JGFAMA: be strong birdy
LADY SELENE: I believe I will go now, much to do, much to do...
HMMINGBIRD1948: birdy strong birdy strong
ROOBYFISH: calvin, watcha doin? do take care
LADY SELENE SASSY: Just about the only thing he DIDN'T say was, "I see dead people!'
CASE_JUSTIN: Blessed Be.
LADY SELENE: I will make sure this gets on to the group later.
FIVECENTDAD: I don't blame you after that episode. Take care of yourself.
LADY SELENE: Blessed be all.
ROOBYFISH: be safe
JGFAMA: trying to see what is going on
DORTREK1: Surround yourself with the Pure White light,Selene
LADY SELENE: I need to meditate on what just happened.
MARIAANGELICA: bye and thank you
WUUD: Blessed Be!! DORTREK1: Take all precautions for your safety
DORTREK1: Blessed be!
LADY SELENE: I will contact you again, I will contact everyone again... And take care of yourselves in the mean time.
LADY SELENE SIGNS OFF.